s2000 is scary.
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From: The Endless Mountains
Solicited on-site guys?
Solicited?? How and what? 
No, no.....not that kind of solicitation, guys.
just another web forum reaching out for new membership.
came via pm, and I was just putting it out there 'n asking if anyone else had noticed.
OR...It could've been interpreted as straight up hookin'...
I was strolling up the keyboard, mindin' my own business Your Honor, I most certainly was.
'N outta nowhere, there she was, handin' out menus for Heaven's sake! I slipped on some ice and landed on the ENTER key.
The arresting officer happened along at exactly this moment.........and here we are, as the will of the Commonwealth would have it.
I swear, I'm innocent, Sir. I'm the victim here!
Regards,
jagg
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If Stewie wuz a car that anybody could drive, 'wouldn't none'uv us be drawn to it guys.
Stewie requires . . no. Strike that. Stewie demands that you take the time to familiarize yourself with it.
Let me activate the disclaimer ray n' say that this followin' is personal opinion:
If anyone could drive it, I wouldn't wannitt n' would be lookin' for somethin' else that required skill n' attentiveness to drive.
What draws us (okay . . . what draws me) to Stewie is it's cuttin' edge handlin'. Ma Honda didn't get that handlin' by manufacturin' yet another transportation pram. Makin' use of the edge (without plantin' you n' your shiny new ride in the landscape) cannot be accomplished without the aforementioned skill and attentiveness. The attentiveness is a no brainer, but the skill requires familiarization n' practice in large, regularly applied doses.
N' get this: ain't none of it gonna be got on a website.
It's gonna be gained by jumpin' in'a driver'z seat n' goin' out in the dry n' learnin' where your, n' Stewie'z limits are.
It's gonna be gained by goin' out in the rain n' doin' the same thing. Each outin'll get you more experience n' closer to your personal edge.
But to go out thinkin' tha'cher gonna jus' jump innitt n' drive it like you drove some lesser vehicle?
If ya tried that I'd bet that you'd probably think that it's scary.
(Welcome ta the world'a the Driver'z Car guys.You've chosen wisely. Now ya godda follow through.)
Be well,
Java
Stewie requires . . no. Strike that. Stewie demands that you take the time to familiarize yourself with it.
Let me activate the disclaimer ray n' say that this followin' is personal opinion:
If anyone could drive it, I wouldn't wannitt n' would be lookin' for somethin' else that required skill n' attentiveness to drive.
What draws us (okay . . . what draws me) to Stewie is it's cuttin' edge handlin'. Ma Honda didn't get that handlin' by manufacturin' yet another transportation pram. Makin' use of the edge (without plantin' you n' your shiny new ride in the landscape) cannot be accomplished without the aforementioned skill and attentiveness. The attentiveness is a no brainer, but the skill requires familiarization n' practice in large, regularly applied doses.
N' get this: ain't none of it gonna be got on a website.
It's gonna be gained by jumpin' in'a driver'z seat n' goin' out in the dry n' learnin' where your, n' Stewie'z limits are.
It's gonna be gained by goin' out in the rain n' doin' the same thing. Each outin'll get you more experience n' closer to your personal edge.
But to go out thinkin' tha'cher gonna jus' jump innitt n' drive it like you drove some lesser vehicle?
If ya tried that I'd bet that you'd probably think that it's scary.
(Welcome ta the world'a the Driver'z Car guys.You've chosen wisely. Now ya godda follow through.)
Be well,
Java
Frankly, get to know your car a little better before taking it to the limit in the rain. Keep in mind in the rain tread her like a lady and she will return the favor.
Ohhh btw, what does VPS mean....My '03 does not have it and it is not necessary......
Be cool and safe,
Franz
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Rain n' snow'll allow ya some grip. Findin' yerself suddenly on ice, with anythin' short'a studded tires is damn near a death sentence.
Ice seemin'ly gives'ya a kick in the butt ta increase yer speed, snips your control cables n' kicks back n' has a cigarette while it laughs at your frantic, hopeless efforts.
N' maybe crawlin' slowly across it 4 wheel drive might make a difference. But jumpin' onto a good sized patch of it at speed? 4 wheel drive ain't gonna dooya diddly.
It all comes back to what Phil said: smooth.
Smooth'll get you the best G's in your favorite turn, but more importantly, smooth'll likely save yer bacon when things get downright slippery, bleak n' ugly.
Upset yer vehicle's attitude at the point-of-entry n' you're more'n likely gonna instigate a spin. You'll go laser-straight, but yer ridin' on pure luck. (Religion wuz born of such situations.)
Get on the ice without doin' anythin' to upset the vehicle's attitude n' you'll likely stay pointed in the right direction so that when you run oud'a ice you can hopefully regain traction in enough time to correct course 'r, at least aim for the least painful outcome.
It's all about the S word guys.
N' once again borrowin' from the good Sgt. Esterhaus: "Let's be careful out there."
Java
Ice seemin'ly gives'ya a kick in the butt ta increase yer speed, snips your control cables n' kicks back n' has a cigarette while it laughs at your frantic, hopeless efforts.
N' maybe crawlin' slowly across it 4 wheel drive might make a difference. But jumpin' onto a good sized patch of it at speed? 4 wheel drive ain't gonna dooya diddly.
It all comes back to what Phil said: smooth.
Smooth'll get you the best G's in your favorite turn, but more importantly, smooth'll likely save yer bacon when things get downright slippery, bleak n' ugly.
Upset yer vehicle's attitude at the point-of-entry n' you're more'n likely gonna instigate a spin. You'll go laser-straight, but yer ridin' on pure luck. (Religion wuz born of such situations.)
Get on the ice without doin' anythin' to upset the vehicle's attitude n' you'll likely stay pointed in the right direction so that when you run oud'a ice you can hopefully regain traction in enough time to correct course 'r, at least aim for the least painful outcome.
It's all about the S word guys.
N' once again borrowin' from the good Sgt. Esterhaus: "Let's be careful out there."
Java
.Went back of XMas to my home country (Germany) and had the chance to drive a S2000 (02) into the Swiss Alps. With winter tires and and little restraint it is a great experience. As I said restraint....
Ciao, Franz
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From: greenfield,ma
Don't do it
You don't really want to drive this car in the rain. the combination of vtec and low weight makes for a dangerous situation. I would avoid bad weather at all cost. Besides, what fun is the S with the top up?
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From: Joisey
Win, lots'a folks doo. It's a matter'a wanna.
Doo'ya wanna?
If you wanna, you'll learn n' you'll doo.
Then you'll be part'a the lots'a folks that doo too.
Be well,
Java
(N' yes win. I drive it hard in'a rain all'a time. Well, all'a time it's rainin' anyway. N' if I can dooitt, anybody with normal gross-motor skills can dooitt too. But ya godda wanna.)
Doo'ya wanna?
If you wanna, you'll learn n' you'll doo.
Then you'll be part'a the lots'a folks that doo too.
Be well,
Java
(N' yes win. I drive it hard in'a rain all'a time. Well, all'a time it's rainin' anyway. N' if I can dooitt, anybody with normal gross-motor skills can dooitt too. But ya godda wanna.)
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Some of the most fun I had was romping across Indiana on the turnpike at speed (let's just say they were a bit over legal) in a pouring rain storm. The car handles just like it's supposed to...running Goodyear F1-DS3's which are one fine tire wet or dry. If you have the experience, it's no more dangerous than driving on dry pavement. (and the idiots who don't know how to drive or hog the left lane also don't care if it's wet or dry...they're still idiots)
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I don't know much KG,
but, the left side of my brain says...." Jagg + S2000 = Good.",
and the right side of my brain says,
"Me drive car. Car Good. Me go fast. Car Good."
My experience tells me that the car is good.
Rain?.......a condition of existence.
Whatever you're runnin' , it pays to know how drive it.
I suspect you're already fully aware of this fact.
I'm just talkin' 'bout my brain, 'n it's opinion on Stewies.
Very Best Regards,
Jagg
but, the left side of my brain says...." Jagg + S2000 = Good.",
and the right side of my brain says,
"Me drive car. Car Good. Me go fast. Car Good."
My experience tells me that the car is good.
Rain?.......a condition of existence.
Whatever you're runnin' , it pays to know how drive it.
I suspect you're already fully aware of this fact.
I'm just talkin' 'bout my brain, 'n it's opinion on Stewies.
Very Best Regards,
Jagg
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From: Ontario
I don't know much KG,
but, the left side of my brain says...." Jagg + S2000 = Good.",
and the right side of my brain says,
"Me drive car. Car Good. Me go fast. Car Good."
My experience tells me that the car is good.
Rain?.......a condition of existence.
Whatever you're runnin' , it pays to know how drive it.
I suspect you're already fully aware of this fact.
I'm just talkin' 'bout my brain, 'n it's opinion on Stewies.
Very Best Regards,
Jagg
but, the left side of my brain says...." Jagg + S2000 = Good.",
and the right side of my brain says,
"Me drive car. Car Good. Me go fast. Car Good."
My experience tells me that the car is good.
Rain?.......a condition of existence.
Whatever you're runnin' , it pays to know how drive it.
I suspect you're already fully aware of this fact.
I'm just talkin' 'bout my brain, 'n it's opinion on Stewies.
Very Best Regards,
Jagg
Last edited by Neil; Jan 27, 2008 at 06:11 PM.
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I learned more about the car and my driving habits driving at Laguna Seca in the rain than all of previous years together. It is amazing what you can do with the car no matter what the conditions are. Learning to handle the car in the wet makes you a better driver, something we should all want to do.
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Reminds me a little of my old Porsche 356's. Rear engine +swing axles =knowing the car and staying on the road. Kinda like throwing a dart backwards.
Took Stewie out yesterday between rainstorms. A lot of corners had water running across and I discovered the secret of staying on the asphalt. Slow down.
Took Stewie out yesterday between rainstorms. A lot of corners had water running across and I discovered the secret of staying on the asphalt. Slow down.
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From: Joisey
Learnin' ta drive in less than perfect conditions invariably makes you a better driver. Not probably. Invariably.
When ya come right down to it, drivin' in perfect conditions don't take a whole hell'uv'a lodda skill beyond turnin' the key, pushin' the big red button n' keepin' it on the pavement.
'Seen monkey'z master tougher tasks'n'att.
Java
When ya come right down to it, drivin' in perfect conditions don't take a whole hell'uv'a lodda skill beyond turnin' the key, pushin' the big red button n' keepin' it on the pavement.
'Seen monkey'z master tougher tasks'n'att.
Java
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From: Las Vegas
This monkey loves driving in the rain, especially since it's so rare here. Got 0.83" this weekend, awesome by our standards... Had to drive with the top up, though. I LOVE driving with the top down in rain, but of course it has to be at freeway speed and that's kinda rare since when it rains here "freeway speed" is barely above parking lot speed. A joy when it happens, though, usually in the first half hour of a storm before everyone realizes that shiny stuff on the road is water and freaks out...
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From: Joisey
'Z'I see it, the lessened traction'a the rain allow'z ya ta learn the stuff that you'd only learn at much higher speed'z in'a dry.
N' it keeps comin' full circle back ta what Phil said: it's all about smooth.
I will admit that it does require the settin' on your sensitivity **** (I feed you guys damned good stuff ta work with, don't I?) ta be turned full max so that any input is noted n', if necessary, acted upon as soon as possible. But it's all about the "S"word.
JAM
N' it keeps comin' full circle back ta what Phil said: it's all about smooth.
I will admit that it does require the settin' on your sensitivity **** (I feed you guys damned good stuff ta work with, don't I?) ta be turned full max so that any input is noted n', if necessary, acted upon as soon as possible. But it's all about the "S"word.
JAM
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I don't wanna drive it in the rain, my choice would be blue sky and sunshine as well. However, I don't think the S is that extreme that you cannot drive it as a everyday driver, what in most parts or the US and other countries, includes rain.
Personally I don't like it because it takes me way to long to get "her" clean again, but I've never looked at the S as a "set it aside in the garage for when the weather is just right" car.
I also believe there are other rear wheel cars that are much much worse in the rain.
The point I was trying to make is the Stewie is a good, reliable everyday driver that has to be handled with restraint when driven in the rain. Wouldn't go track racing with a jacked up Hummer and expect to compete against the Supras and other cars.....
Ciao, Franz
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i am sure that you guys will find this interesting. it occurred in dry weather on some "pea gravel". not an S2000 but a 350z rice bucket.
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http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324745&page=9
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http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324745&page=9
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From: Joisey
Regardin' drivin' with less than optimum surface-traction, it seems like an appropriate time to ask if you guys've checked out the video that wuz posted yesterday in the "Like Drivin' Stewie?" thread.
It's really worth a look-see.
Be well,
Java
It's really worth a look-see.
Be well,
Java
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You want more power? Check out this video.
http://www.snotr.com/video/568
http://www.snotr.com/video/568
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You want more power? Check out this video.
http://www.snotr.com/video/568
http://www.snotr.com/video/568
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I've heard all and agree with all. As Java has said in the past (though I am in no way quoting, obviously) the best performance increase is getting behind the wheel and driving her. Today I found myself going sideways on an offramp (mayhap I should have had both hands on the wheel...) a bit of smooth response brought her squarely back in line, though.
The onlookers were a little scared and seemed to be waiting for the crunch...
Stewie is a little wobbly when you go too fast but my my my do things pick right back up where they left off when you pushed too far. I love this ride.
The onlookers were a little scared and seemed to be waiting for the crunch...
Stewie is a little wobbly when you go too fast but my my my do things pick right back up where they left off when you pushed too far. I love this ride.
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For sure, Stewie has her moments. The other day we were sort of chase n' a NSX on the service road of the I 495. Mr NSX did a quick 90 degree turn under an overpass. Me and Stewie followed. Stewie did a nice little tail wag which sure did get Mrs. Pablo's attention...........lol I'm gettin' used to it.
The ambient temp was about 40 degrees but tires were pretty warm since I had just driven about 15 miles. But, we had just gone through a puddle. The situation was easily corrected by steering.
The ambient temp was about 40 degrees but tires were pretty warm since I had just driven about 15 miles. But, we had just gone through a puddle. The situation was easily corrected by steering.
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Some of the most fun I had was romping across Indiana on the turnpike at speed (let's just say they were a bit over legal) in a pouring rain storm. The car handles just like it's supposed to...running Goodyear F1-DS3's which are one fine tire wet or dry. If you have the experience, it's no more dangerous than driving on dry pavement. (and the idiots who don't know how to drive or hog the left lane also don't care if it's wet or dry...they're still idiots)
One of my favs
Truly phenomenal in the rain at speed.
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You might want to consider installing a new LSD. It should offer a greater amount of handling capability in the rain and help to stabilize your car.
Let me know if you would like a good recommendation.
Erik Johnson
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Let me know if you would like a good recommendation.
Erik Johnson
(303) 895-4828 cell
