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S2K2U · 03-01-2006, 05:15 AM

being a former bimmer person I have to question the 3.0 with an M on it...the M version of the Z3 is a whole different manchine...3.2 liters and no numbers on the back. also there will always be the funny chrome horizontal bar in the side scoops on the fender just in front of the door, the fenders are also flared out much wider than the stock Z3 and there is a whole mess of other little details that seperate the two. as far as racing a true M....well it tests out a bit better in the 0-60 and the quarter, not much but better still, and if you get lucky the driver will err a bit and that would be all it takes. and I should also make note that there are many M posers out there...I have seen the M placed on the oddest cars, and it really is a sad thing to see somebody sporting the M on a four cylinder Z3 with an automatic...but even funnier when you see the legendary M on a Daewoo complete with all the other BMW emblems...

2001 BMW M Roadster
Standard Engine 3.2L 315 hp I6
Horsepower 315 @ 7400 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 251 @ 4900 RPM
0-60 miles per hour in 5.0 seconds

2001 BMW Z3
Roadster 2.5i Coupe 3.0i Roadster 3.0i
Standard Engine 2.5L 184 hp I6 3.0L 225 hp I6
Horsepower 184 @ 6000 RPM 225 @ 5900
Torque (lb-ft) 175 @ 3500 RPM 214 @ 3500

2001 Honda S2000
2.0L 240 hp I4
Horsepower 240 @ 8300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 153 @ 7500 RPM

2005 Honda S2000
2.2L 240 hp I4
Horsepower 240 @ 7800 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 162 @ 6500 RPM

1998 BMW M Roadster
3.2L 240 hp I6
Horsepower 240 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 236 @ 3800 RPM
0-60 miles per hour in 5.2 seconds

1998 BMW Z3
1.9L 138 hp I4 2.8L 189 hp I6
Horsepower 138 @ 6000 RPM 189 @ 5300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 133 @ 4300 RPM 203 @ 3950 RPM

2006-2007 BMW M Roadster (coming soon)
Max. output in kW at 1/min 252/7,900
Max. torque in Nm at 1/min 365/4,900
thats 343 horsepower!

Top speed (km/h) 250
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (in s) 5.0
Acceleration 0 - 1,000 m (in s) 23.7
Acceleration 80 - 120 km/h in 4th/5th gear (in s) 5.0/6.5

not to be taken lightly....and I double checked.....no M Roadster with a 3.0
of course I chose the S2000 for the purity of it, and Hondas much better reliability vs repair costs. I have not driven any S2000 yet as I won't be taking delivery until sunday, but I have driven the 2001 M Roadster that my brother owned, and he has driven both, while he does assure me that the M is faster, he also clearly indicates that the S2000 will never dissapoint me and due to its rev happy nature will actually be more thrilling to drive. considering I am coming from a very expensive and spirited 320is I am used to driving at 3500+ rpms, just imagine a 1.8 liter four cylinder with an 89mm bore and a 71mm stroke, wild camshaft and 162 ft lbs @ 5000 rpms and 193 hp @ 7500 all through dual sidedrafts, even worse is the 4.11 limited slip with a close ratio five speed and no overdrive, on tiny 195/50-15 rubber.

03-01-2006, 05:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
S2K2U Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 6	being a former bimmer person I have to question the 3.0 with an M on it...the M version of the Z3 is a whole different manchine...3.2 liters and no numbers on the back. also there will always be the funny chrome horizontal bar in the side scoops on the fender just in front of the door, the fenders are also flared out much wider than the stock Z3 and there is a whole mess of other little details that seperate the two. as far as racing a true M....well it tests out a bit better in the 0-60 and the quarter, not much but better still, and if you get lucky the driver will err a bit and that would be all it takes. and I should also make note that there are many M posers out there...I have seen the M placed on the oddest cars, and it really is a sad thing to see somebody sporting the M on a four cylinder Z3 with an automatic...but even funnier when you see the legendary M on a Daewoo complete with all the other BMW emblems... 2001 BMW M Roadster Standard Engine 3.2L 315 hp I6 Horsepower 315 @ 7400 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 251 @ 4900 RPM 0-60 miles per hour in 5.0 seconds 2001 BMW Z3 Roadster 2.5i Coupe 3.0i Roadster 3.0i Standard Engine 2.5L 184 hp I6 3.0L 225 hp I6 Horsepower 184 @ 6000 RPM 225 @ 5900 Torque (lb-ft) 175 @ 3500 RPM 214 @ 3500 2001 Honda S2000 2.0L 240 hp I4 Horsepower 240 @ 8300 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 153 @ 7500 RPM 2005 Honda S2000 2.2L 240 hp I4 Horsepower 240 @ 7800 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 162 @ 6500 RPM 1998 BMW M Roadster 3.2L 240 hp I6 Horsepower 240 @ 6000 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 236 @ 3800 RPM 0-60 miles per hour in 5.2 seconds 1998 BMW Z3 1.9L 138 hp I4 2.8L 189 hp I6 Horsepower 138 @ 6000 RPM 189 @ 5300 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 133 @ 4300 RPM 203 @ 3950 RPM 2006-2007 BMW M Roadster (coming soon) Max. output in kW at 1/min 252/7,900 Max. torque in Nm at 1/min 365/4,900 thats 343 horsepower! Top speed (km/h) 250 Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (in s) 5.0 Acceleration 0 - 1,000 m (in s) 23.7 Acceleration 80 - 120 km/h in 4th/5th gear (in s) 5.0/6.5 not to be taken lightly....and I double checked.....no M Roadster with a 3.0 of course I chose the S2000 for the purity of it, and Hondas much better reliability vs repair costs. I have not driven any S2000 yet as I won't be taking delivery until sunday, but I have driven the 2001 M Roadster that my brother owned, and he has driven both, while he does assure me that the M is faster, he also clearly indicates that the S2000 will never dissapoint me and due to its rev happy nature will actually be more thrilling to drive. considering I am coming from a very expensive and spirited 320is I am used to driving at 3500+ rpms, just imagine a 1.8 liter four cylinder with an 89mm bore and a 71mm stroke, wild camshaft and 162 ft lbs @ 5000 rpms and 193 hp @ 7500 all through dual sidedrafts, even worse is the 4.11 limited slip with a close ratio five speed and no overdrive, on tiny 195/50-15 rubber.