RPM's!!!!!!!

eddyboy1 · 10-31-2005, 05:59 PM

I'm just looking for some general advice on where I should be taking the RPM's and when. Is it going to beat on the engine too much to be binging it up to 7 or 8 every time I take off in 1st, or should I be keeping it more conservative for better longevity? Also, for regular driving, the engine seems to rev pretty high as is, but I just don't feel like I should be in 6th at a mere 55 miles per hour........

Where should they be for regular driving? For performance driving? And finally what would you consider "beating on the car?" After all, I realize it's made for performance and I want to develop my driving skills even more.

MattG · 10-31-2005, 07:41 PM

As long as the engine has warmed up properly then revving it won't hurt a bit. Travelling along at 3000 rpm in any gear is fine. I wouldn't really travel at rpms below 3000.

If you look at the owners manual it should have suggested speed points to shift at.

I consider beating on the car to be not letting it warm up and cool down properly, and not servicing the car as often as you should.

Keep in mind that if you are driving the car hard, you should be servicing it more frequently than suggested in the owners manual.

Halo · 11-01-2005, 09:23 AM

Wait a few minutes AFTER you have 3 bars on the temp guage before getting on the high rpm cam (approx 5500 rpm).

No harm whatsoever to the car to cruise along at low rpm. The car won't accelerate well below 3000, but i've set the cuise to 40mph in 6th before and just ... well... cruised

For performance driving, you want to stay on the high rpm cam the whole time. This means ever shift should be at redline so you end up above VTEC in the next gear.

Assuming your car is warmed up you wont damage it by keeping it revving high. But, the amount of wear is going to be proportional to the total number of revs the engine sees. How long are you plannin on keeping your S? The reason I ask this is longterm engine wear isn't usually a problem for the first car owner, but for the people who buy it down the line when the miles get close to 100K.

eddyboy1 · 11-02-2005, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo

Wait a few minutes AFTER you have 3 bars on the temp guage before getting on the high rpm cam (approx 5500 rpm).

No harm whatsoever to the car to cruise along at low rpm. The car won't accelerate well below 3000, but i've set the cuise to 40mph in 6th before and just ... well... cruised

For performance driving, you want to stay on the high rpm cam the whole time. This means ever shift should be at redline so you end up above VTEC in the next gear.

Assuming your car is warmed up you wont damage it by keeping it revving high. But, the amount of wear is going to be proportional to the total number of revs the engine sees. How long are you plannin on keeping your S? The reason I ask this is longterm engine wear isn't usually a problem for the first car owner, but for the people who buy it down the line when the miles get close to 100K.

Halo,
Again, this is helpful to hear. As for how long I plan on keeping this car, I intend on keeping it pretty much forever. Once the engine gets too old, I'll look to replace it, as I hear it's pretty cheap to replace (3-4 grand....???) Or perhaps rebuilding would be a better choice.....????

The car right now has 61,000 miles on it and the only things I see my needing to work on a little bit are the rotors/calipers which are a little rusted (suggestions are welcome on how to approach that as well, should I remove the wheel and then sand the rusted edges down, or will that screw up th erotor edge?). Also (as always) the fool who had the car before me ATE UP the paint under the nose pretty badly, so the body needs some work there. To be honest though, I'm glad there is some attention needed for the car because I want to do it all myself, so I can learn the thing inside and out. Had I a brand new one, I wouldn't have any reason to work on it!

Thanks for the suggestions on the RPMs. So take it to red line every gear for performance? Will do.

Halo · 11-02-2005, 01:36 PM

Well, the rust on the rotors won't hurt anything... just cosmetic.

The calipers are cast alu, are you sure they're rusted? Anyway, you can buy some high temp silver or black paint at Home Depot and paint the edges of the rotors if you want, cheap solution. The other possibility is to get new rotors that are plated so the non-swept areas won't rust (the swept areas will still rust but as soon as you apply the brakes the rust comes off.

If the chin is all messed up, you can get a new chin spoiler. If you go OEM, it will already be painted to match. Then, you can go and chip the paint on your new spoiler

Mine is about 2 years old and I think I'm due for a new one already. www.hardtopguy.com is a good place to get the OEM one.

Esstoothou · 11-04-2005, 12:57 AM

Having had a lot of experience with high-power/low-torque Japanese motorcyle engines, I say spin it, more than lug it.
The Honda is very capable of acceptable progress without thrashing it, contrary to the belief of many who have not had an S2000, just keep it spinning between 3-6 and you will be fine, leaving the 9000rpm stuff for when you are in a real hurry.

Once warm, the engine will thrive on revs, but naturally, don't murder every last rpm constantly.

eddyboy1 · 11-04-2005, 06:13 AM

I had kind of suspected that with the RPM levels, that the engine would "prefer" to be revved a little higher than to be cruising on the lower end. It does seem to "feel" better doing so when it's warmed up.

Thaks a lot.

KJK · 11-15-2005, 12:25 PM

I'm second owner of an 02 S2000 with 28,000 miles on it. I spend all day at work looking forward to driving it home, always wishing I had a longer commute! With regard to RPM, I find the synchros mesh more smoothly at higher revs... a good excuse to make that baby hum!

eddyboy1 · 11-15-2005, 12:59 PM

That's interesting because I noticed the same thing. It just seems a little rougher at lower RPM levels.

By the way, I just traded my 01 with 61,000 miles on it for an 02 with 24,000. Previous owner barely drove it, either.

As for the commute, I'm glad to say mine takes 30 minutes!

Problem is it's mostly straightaways, not too much maneuvering, which as we know is where the S2K makes all her money.

bridge563 · 11-15-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo

just cosmetic.

This conversation is just beyond me so i am out, best of luck.

KJK · 11-15-2005, 02:21 PM

"Live Free Or Die"
You must be in New Hampshire.
You gotta drive the Kankamangus Highway!
(not sure if I spelled that right)
A long, twisting, turning, well paved highway through the White Mountains.

bridge563 · 11-15-2005, 02:37 PM

Couldnt agree less. Totally off the chart. You can PM if you want, I will try to explain better...

eddyboy1 · 11-16-2005, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJK

"Live Free Or Die"
You must be in New Hampshire.
You gotta drive the Kankamangus Highway!
(not sure if I spelled that right)
A long, twisting, turning, well paved highway through the White Mountains.

Hell yeah, you're right about that one! I'm from NH, but currently stationed in SC....I'm out of here (military) in 11 months though, so I'll be heading up there for sure anyway. Thanks for planting the idea, though. For some reason I had not even thought about driving the K!!

Esstoothou · 11-16-2005, 04:07 AM

I have found a London tuning shop, who usually tune Rover K-Series engines in stuff like Lotus and Caterham cars and they are tuning the S2000 for me.
RPMs is where it will be at, they have promised!

They are sourcing a cold air intake system, full sports exhaust with race manifold and de-cat and will re-map the car, also lifting the rpm limit by a modest, but useful 300 rpm.

Hopefully, around 10% more power will be returned and the car will be even keener to rev high.

10-31-2005, 05:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
eddyboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	RPM's!!!!!!! I'm just looking for some general advice on where I should be taking the RPM's and when. Is it going to beat on the engine too much to be binging it up to 7 or 8 every time I take off in 1st, or should I be keeping it more conservative for better longevity? Also, for regular driving, the engine seems to rev pretty high as is, but I just don't feel like I should be in 6th at a mere 55 miles per hour........ Where should they be for regular driving? For performance driving? And finally what would you consider "beating on the car?" After all, I realize it's made for performance and I want to develop my driving skills even more.

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bridge563 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	Wrong Couldnt agree less. Totally off the chart. You can PM if you want, I will try to explain better...

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Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	Wait a few minutes AFTER you have 3 bars on the temp guage before getting on the high rpm cam (approx 5500 rpm). No harm whatsoever to the car to cruise along at low rpm. The car won't accelerate well below 3000, but i've set the cuise to 40mph in 6th before and just ... well... cruised For performance driving, you want to stay on the high rpm cam the whole time. This means ever shift should be at redline so you end up above VTEC in the next gear. Assuming your car is warmed up you wont damage it by keeping it revving high. But, the amount of wear is going to be proportional to the total number of revs the engine sees. How long are you plannin on keeping your S? The reason I ask this is longterm engine wear isn't usually a problem for the first car owner, but for the people who buy it down the line when the miles get close to 100K.

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Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	Well, the rust on the rotors won't hurt anything... just cosmetic. The calipers are cast alu, are you sure they're rusted? Anyway, you can buy some high temp silver or black paint at Home Depot and paint the edges of the rotors if you want, cheap solution. The other possibility is to get new rotors that are plated so the non-swept areas won't rust (the swept areas will still rust but as soon as you apply the brakes the rust comes off. If the chin is all messed up, you can get a new chin spoiler. If you go OEM, it will already be painted to match. Then, you can go and chip the paint on your new spoiler Mine is about 2 years old and I think I'm due for a new one already. www.hardtopguy.com is a good place to get the OEM one.

11-04-2005, 12:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
Esstoothou Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 41	Having had a lot of experience with high-power/low-torque Japanese motorcyle engines, I say spin it, more than lug it. The Honda is very capable of acceptable progress without thrashing it, contrary to the belief of many who have not had an S2000, just keep it spinning between 3-6 and you will be fine, leaving the 9000rpm stuff for when you are in a real hurry. Once warm, the engine will thrive on revs, but naturally, don't murder every last rpm constantly.

11-04-2005, 06:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
eddyboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	I had kind of suspected that with the RPM levels, that the engine would "prefer" to be revved a little higher than to be cruising on the lower end. It does seem to "feel" better doing so when it's warmed up. Thaks a lot.

11-15-2005, 12:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
KJK Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	I'm second owner of an 02 S2000 with 28,000 miles on it. I spend all day at work looking forward to driving it home, always wishing I had a longer commute! With regard to RPM, I find the synchros mesh more smoothly at higher revs... a good excuse to make that baby hum!

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eddyboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	That's interesting because I noticed the same thing. It just seems a little rougher at lower RPM levels. By the way, I just traded my 01 with 61,000 miles on it for an 02 with 24,000. Previous owner barely drove it, either. As for the commute, I'm glad to say mine takes 30 minutes! Problem is it's mostly straightaways, not too much maneuvering, which as we know is where the S2K makes all her money.

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11-16-2005, 04:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
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