Shift Points

[Lethander]

I'm still a noob here but the dealer is tell that i sould shift gear at really high RPM from 6000-7000 RPM and that i sould be doing 60 miles per hour in 3rd Gear. I dont know if this is true or not. I dont want to hurt the car so i wanted to know what if you guys can give me a List of Shifts point Ea. At what Mph and Rpm i sould shift into the next gear.

[s2000isu]

red line for going fast whatever you want for normal driving whatever works best for you and the road youre on

[gomarlins3]

I shift around 5000 when I am paying attention to where I am shifting. Otherwise, I just drive the car and don't think about my shift point every time. In other words, just enjoy the drive.

[Java Junky]

Ditto to what s2 n' Go said Leth. It's more of a late-model motorcycle engine than anything else, n', as such, has a higher-than-most-folks-are-used-to power band n' redline.(Gratefully, it also has a rev-limiter for when we screw up. As I've never screwed-up, I've only been told that it's there)
If you short-shift it, you're never gonna be able to make use of the punch it has to offer.
Learn the car, it's, and your abilities. Get some serious time in with it, get comfortable. KEEP THE RADIO OFF. Preferably on clear straights, not corners, pay attention to the tach. Learn both the sound and the pull of the engine at various RPM.
When you become familiar with it n' you're shiftin' it in the higher RPM range n' not hittin' the rev-limiter, you're doin' better'n most n' you'll find that stupid grin that we all wind up wearin' at one time r' another on your face.
Be well.
Java

[Tim Gedney]

According to the book, the shift speeds are as follows:
2nd at 15 miles per hour
3rd at 25
4th at 40
5th at 47
6th at 52

(yawn.....)

In my 2002, I do occasionally shift at 8500-9000 rpm, with speeds (roughly) as follows:
2nd at 30
3rd at 60
4th at 80
the rest is limited by bravery

Have fun!

[s2000isu]

hehe tim you're old. When I rip on it I don't pay attention to miles per hour often just rpm. I do know I enjoy downshifting into second at 44 miles per hour and the car just screams and has a ton of pull. so im gonna say 2nd will take you high 50's maybe 60's. I also know that 4th gear will do over 112. And at about 125 it sounds like the roof is coming off.

[Java Junky]

Well, there ya have it s2. Ain't 'post'a be no roof.
Be well.
Java

[Tim Gedney]

Oh, I agree with you, s2000isu! I guess I didn't make myself clear.... I shift INTO 2nd at 30, and from 2nd to 3rd at almost 60 miles per hour! 3rd gear takes me to about 80. I don't know what the top end of 4th is (i.e., what is the redline in 4th gear), but I'm JUST ITCHING to find out (armed with my new radar detector...thanks, Santa!).

[s2000isu]

Hehehe Tim I can tell you 4th takes you to about 112 and I highly recommend you go for it. Fastest ive taken it is 125 and it felt very very stable id have no problem going alot faster. I did get off of it though in fear of hitting a deer at over 100.

[Tim Gedney]

I had it to 120 yesterday, probably in 5th, and backed off for various reasons. Definitely felt a little looser than at lower speeds but wasn't too scary. I'll see if I can get it a bit higher when the opportunity presents itself. I guess I should take it to redline in 4th in order to maximize my speed/distance ratio. Afterall, I don't have all day to get there, do I? There just might be an officer or two with something to say about doing 120+ on his stretch of road.

[Java Junky]

Rest assured Tim, sooner r' later there'll be an officer on that stretch. Jus' somethin' else for us to be payin' attention to.
Thing of it is, alodda them officer types r' gearheads n' speed-junkies too. So when they see a sweet stretch of two-lane, they not only see it as someplace to bring their personal ride back to durin' their off-duty, but also as a reliable place to practice summons-writin' 101.
The ol' "watch yer six" pilot's warnin' comes to mind, though with the current speed measurin' gear, you've godda be watchin' the whole clock, not jus' your six.
Be well.
Java

[Tim Gedney]

True'r words were never written, Jack. Rest assured, my forays into the triple digits are few and far between, and ONLY when the opportunity seems fitting, i.e., endangering no one but myself should things take a turn for the worse. Thanks for the reminder. I guess I should take heed to a "Life Motto" I've instilled in my children: Never play a a game you can't afford to lose.

[Java Junky]

Hmmm-m-m-m, we seem to have taken notes from similar gurus Ted. Mine was a bit more poker oriented n' went more like "only bet as much as you can afford to lose".
There've been times when I've lost track'a those words of wisdom, usually in a red-hazed furor, n' it's usually been jus' about the same time as the @*#& hits the fan.
'Can't stop the gettin' older part, but one can sure diminish the effects of wisdom if one puts one's mind to it.
One more n' then I'm hittin' the sack: "Too soon oldt, too late schmadt".
Be well n' wish you nothin' but clear air out front of you for the whole of the new year.
Java

[bobby2002S2K]

i've been to 155 a few times thats bout all of 6th.

[Java Junky]

No offense Bob, but 155 in a straight line probably has the same sphincter-factor as 45 in a tight, off-camber with the ass-end jus' hangin' on by the tips of it's claws.
When you're flat out, the numbers've stopped climbin', n' all the acceleration's stopped . . the feelin's always the same: now what?
Corners pal. It's where the real fun is. N' it's where Stewie really shines.
Be well.
Java

[s2000isu]

i thought ap1's topped out at 145?.?.?.?

[Java Junky]

You startin' trouble again s2? Okay, who's been spikin' s2's egg nog?
'Was thinkin' about you n' your "roof comin' off" comment today while we were ridin' aroun' in 68 degree weather with the sun beatin' down on us.
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoyin' it ta beat the band. But ridin' 'roun' in shirtsleeves on the 8th of January is a bit freaky, y'know?
Be well.
Java

[bobby2002S2K]

True, very true java junky. I was just saying thats about all 6ths has to offer.The S2k gets her share of coners as well as some drifting.Which i have found alot more fun than taking corners and just hearing the tire scream.Get'em spinning thats where the fun is, if you can keep it on the "track".wink wink.

[s2000isu]

hehe youve noticed ive been bitter lately? Im very annoyed that i cant get a part for my other car. I bought the same part from 3 different people now and each time i get my money refunded. One crank got dropped one the guy just decided he didnt wanna sell and the other I dunno why yet grrrr.

Anyways my lucky charms werent soggy with that reply hehe I really thought they topped out at 145 but with some more research ive found the ap1's top out at 150 or so all the sources I found say.


Ya the weather in our area is nuts I went paintballing today it was nice.

[bobby2002S2K]

Very true and i agree with ya Java Junky, i was just saying that 155 is about all 6th had.The S2k gets her fair share of corners and some drifting.Listen to the tires squil to the point of almost losing traction in a corner is fun but hearing them scream while smoking at the sametime is alot more fun."only on the track".

[Bubblerboy64]

I guess I am really an Ole Fart. I will blast up to 100 miles per hour from time to time in short bursts but the idea of 145 or 155 in that little sucker makes me rather weak in the knees just sitting here behind the web screen. Maybe because I know I have fewer years left they seem more valuable to me or something. Boys we all make mistakes. You young guys may be better able to control the cars or at least think you can but you screw up one time at 100mph or more and it might be your last time. You screw up at 145mph and you can count on it. Have a wife and kids or a Dad and Mom? Think about it. Save it for the track and then be damned careful. At 145 all you'd have to hit would be a big bug or have a tire failure. Man it takes one split second to have an accident and perhaps the rest of your life to fix it. I promise you if you go visit a nursing home and see the guys that were not so lucky you'll dial it back a notch. Not saying you can't have a little fun (I do) but use some common sense. Nuff said. John (THE OLE FART) H

[s2000isu]

a deer could surely kill me if i hit it going 65 it could kill me doing 145 too. I could also pull through a light and a drunk driver could run the light and kill me I could fall off a ladder at work I could choke on a piece of chicken I could get hit by lightning. If you dont endanger others then who cares theres a million ways you could die. If i die blasting down the road having fun because a tires blows out thats better then coming home from work and getting t boned.

[Bubblerboy64]

S2000isu, All of what you have said is essentially true but its a matter of degrees. My point is this. If you get killed in what can be considered an accident then your survives will certainly feel badly about it. If on the other hand you kill yourself doing something that they at least would consider foolish then how would you feel about that? Life is a risk no doubt about it and we all have our comfort zone with respect to risk. I am suggesting that you consider how many bullets you chamber when you play russian roulette and that there are more people involved in this then just yourself. Your survivors and anyone you take with you on the way one naming two. I am old enough to know that I will not talk you into or out of anything with respect to what you consider risky behavior I am just suggesting you consider another view as well as your own. My life is more precisions to me then it was perhaps 40 years ago. I am glad I was smart enough and yes lucky enough to get to this point. I am just suggesting that you consider my point and take it for what its worth. I know I will not change any hard core opinions but speed does kill. Ask the cops out there. Its drinking first and then speed and put the two together and look out here we come. This is not BS its the facts. You can deny to the end its till the truth. Over confidence in ones abilities as killed more young guys then enough. We seldom get to pick the way we die but we can certain pick the way we live. Do what you well but think about doing what's right. I can not see how driving as described on any public road at any time could ever be considered right. You don't have to convince me its up to you to decide for yourself. Problem is that I see in this country no one wants to speak up and stand for whats right. I just did a little of that. If it offends anyone sorry. John H

[s2000isu]

Its your opinion I would hope it doesnt offend anyone. I dont agree with much of what you said but it doesnt offend me. I do not consider doing 125 ( fastest ive been in the s2000) on a open empty road at 4 in the morning russian roulette at all. I like to think if it was like it i have 1 bullet in my fancy 50 chamer revolver. Cause I have the tires and car to do it . I prefer to stay away from the cops in my area Ive never been a fan. No i dont have a million speeding tickets and no ive never been in trouble with the law I have my own reasons for not respecting suburban cops one bit. But thats besides the point. Basically I feel just as safe going 120 in the s at 4 in the morning as I do driving down 95 by philly.

[Java Junky]

Some time back we used to refer to it as the "rush". To some of us life without some sort of attainable "rush" is more unacceptable than the death that awaits us all at curtain call.
We've all got our own priorities n', barrin' spillin' hot coffee in our laps n' suin' the person who sold it to us, we realize that we, as adults, ultimately, pay the price for our actions.
Like a wise old friend from many moons ago taught me: "ya only bets whut'cha kin afford ta lose". That goes for dimes n' quarters, pink slips, body parts r', ultimately, our lives.
But, as with all things: like the old knight said . . .
Be well.
Java
Clarification: we all dooitt to varyin' degrees, face it folks, we ain't drivin' aroun' in our Stewies 'cause we're all stamped oud'a the same borin' mold, y'know?

[Tim Gedney]

I think we've exhausted this one. Yes, it's risky. Yes, we all do it to some extent. Yes, we all accept the consequences by the simple fact that we do it willingly.

I think we've exhausted this one, guys.

"God bless us, every one" Tiny Tim

[Java Junky]

Exhausted? Nah.
Tim, I'm a real caveman when it comes to this stuff, but I think these things're the electronic equivilent of "a trillion bottles'a beer on'a wall".
They can go on n' on n' morph into things that got nothin' ta do with the original post. Sometimes they do, but, lots'a time they don't. N', amazin'ly, alodda folks gedda kick out'a 'em no matter how ditzy they get.
The only thing I can figure is that I'll never figure it out.
So, ya jump's in, splashes aroun' n' enjoys yerself.
Be well.
Java

[Tim Gedney]

I'm spalshin', I'm splashin....

Hey, did you hear that 2006 was the warmest year on record? I guess God loves Stewie, too!