Braces

DJJSR · 12-03-2007, 09:18 PM

I need some advice on braces. I've been looking at the shock tower braces and the X braces and I've been thinking about putting both of them on. I have no complaints about handling or flexing but the car is just so nice and tight that I want to keep it that way. I figure a couple of extra braces now might avoid some squeaks or rattles in the future. I do plan on autocrossing.

Any recommendations? Any to avoid?

Thanks

desmo4 · 12-03-2007, 10:18 PM

Put in a full roll cage it will eliminate the need for other braces and you'll probably need to to auto cross it. There a guy on S2KCA who is developing one that will be SCCA legal.

Jonathan

Java Junky · 12-03-2007, 10:57 PM

'Roll cage'z kind'a extreme don'cha think des? For all out autoX I believe you do need a cage, but for the lesser classes a real (as opposed ta the pretenders) roll bar will suffice n' also allow you a lesser amount'a in-yer-face when you're drivin' on public roads.
I'd originally thought about braces too DJJ, but after spendin' time in the car, found it to be damned near the stiffest thing I've ridden in n' scrapped the idea. But if I was goin' autoXin' I'd likely get them for the reasons you mentioned.
From some'a the stuff I'd originally read, some undermount chassis pieces actually do take away from our already minimal ground clearance. Not all of 'em, but one was mentioned.
Probably not nothin' you didn't already know, but there it is anyway.
Keep us posted how you progress with it.
Java

gomarlins3 · 12-04-2007, 11:30 AM

You do not need a roll bar/cage to autoX in SCCA. I have been doing it for years. Think about Miata. They do not even come with ANY type of roll over protection (hoops) and they do VERY well in their class in autoX's.

As for the OP's questions, a STB will do nothing but look good. An X-brace will help some, but not enough to really notice. Also remember, that adding stuff to your car will change your class in SCCA and put you up against stronger competition. I have to run in SM2 and I have to run against a 381 WHP, a 425 WHP, and a 470 WHP set of Corvettes. Not fun.

Java Junky · 12-04-2007, 11:32 AM

'Wuz wonderin' when you were gonna pop by Go.

Dr. Jimbo · 12-04-2007, 12:32 PM

I'd see a good orthodontist.

DJJSR · 12-04-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Jimbo

I'd see a good orthodontist.

I went through that with my daughter. I can equip this car with lots of stuff for less money than that!!!!!!!

Bubblerboy64 · 12-10-2007, 12:23 PM

That's true but we in the profession appreciate the help so that we too can enjoy the merits of the S2000. JEH

12-03-2007, 09:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,751	Braces I need some advice on braces. I've been looking at the shock tower braces and the X braces and I've been thinking about putting both of them on. I have no complaints about handling or flexing but the car is just so nice and tight that I want to keep it that way. I figure a couple of extra braces now might avoid some squeaks or rattles in the future. I do plan on autocrossing. Any recommendations? Any to avoid? Thanks __________________ Don

12-03-2007, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 544	Put in a full roll cage it will eliminate the need for other braces and you'll probably need to to auto cross it. There a guy on S2KCA who is developing one that will be SCCA legal. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

12-03-2007, 10:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,432	'Roll cage'z kind'a extreme don'cha think des? For all out autoX I believe you do need a cage, but for the lesser classes a real (as opposed ta the pretenders) roll bar will suffice n' also allow you a lesser amount'a in-yer-face when you're drivin' on public roads. I'd originally thought about braces too DJJ, but after spendin' time in the car, found it to be damned near the stiffest thing I've ridden in n' scrapped the idea. But if I was goin' autoXin' I'd likely get them for the reasons you mentioned. From some'a the stuff I'd originally read, some undermount chassis pieces actually do take away from our already minimal ground clearance. Not all of 'em, but one was mentioned. Probably not nothin' you didn't already know, but there it is anyway. Keep us posted how you progress with it. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

12-04-2007, 11:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,813	You do not need a roll bar/cage to autoX in SCCA. I have been doing it for years. Think about Miata. They do not even come with ANY type of roll over protection (hoops) and they do VERY well in their class in autoX's. As for the OP's questions, a STB will do nothing but look good. An X-brace will help some, but not enough to really notice. Also remember, that adding stuff to your car will change your class in SCCA and put you up against stronger competition. I have to run in SM2 and I have to run against a 381 WHP, a 425 WHP, and a 470 WHP set of Corvettes. Not fun. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name. Last edited by gomarlins3; 12-04-2007 at 07:29 PM.

12-04-2007, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,432	'Wuz wonderin' when you were gonna pop by Go. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

12-04-2007, 12:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,021	I'd see a good orthodontist.

12-10-2007, 12:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bubblerboy64 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 84	That's true but we in the profession appreciate the help so that we too can enjoy the merits of the S2000. JEH

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