Exhaust: Single or Dual?

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 03:16 PM

Im looking at exhaust's for my S and im just wondering which which will give me better performance overall. A single tip or dual tip. Your opinions would greatly help

Neil · 02-11-2008, 03:33 PM

I think duel pipes will remove you emissions quicker.

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 03:37 PM

I heard thought that the single tip gives you a slightly better power gain. T or F ??

Rick006 · 02-11-2008, 03:49 PM

I run a single outlet magnaflow which holds the noise down and gives good power. Just my 2 cents.

jagg · 02-11-2008, 03:53 PM

the only gain I can see since it's an I-4 powerplant, is that you'd shave off a few pounds with the single tipped exhaust.....the duals are a fake-out on the S2000. They're there for asthetics only.

jagg

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 04:56 PM

So what ur saying is it would be more beneficial to buy a single? On the good side their cheaper on average

DJJSR · 02-11-2008, 05:09 PM

Dool is cool. Singles are for Mavericks. Sorry jagg but did you ever see a Mav with duels?

jagg · 02-11-2008, 05:12 PM

I sense a new photo mission DJJSR......If I find a Mav with twins on it's arse, there should be a reward....

jagg

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 05:23 PM

that still doesn't answer my question, which is better? or is it just a personal preference kinda thing?

jagg · 02-11-2008, 05:30 PM

Sorry Reborn, got sidetracked.

The single is better only because it saves a little bit of weight.
Personal opinion: the factory setup is fine the way it is, looks alot better, and it's built to last the life of the car. The nominal gain by changing it out isn't worth the expense. For what it costs, you could buy alot of gas. It's just so much money flushed down the toilet.

But..Yes. Common sense says the single setup is in theory a better configuration. You could achieve the same benefit by emptying the trunk.

jagg

SoMe0nE2tAlK2 · 02-11-2008, 05:53 PM

As far as straight power gains in general single will be better. Also lighter when compared to an equal-level duals.

But can you live with a hole on the left side of your rear bumper? I couldnt.

jagg · 02-11-2008, 05:57 PM

Power gains? I ain't seein' it.

jagg

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 05:59 PM

Naw i couldn't, thats why its hard to decide. The stock exhaust looks awsome. It adds to the flow of the car. Also, if ya go aftermarket, u have all the ricers in town wanting a piece of ya and thats just waste of gas. GOD DAMN STREET RACERS

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bobby2002s2k. · 02-11-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by S2K Reborn

Naw i couldn't, thats why its hard to decide. The stock exhaust looks awsome. It adds to the flow of the car. Also, if ya go aftermarket, u have all the ricers in town wanting a piece of ya and thats just waste of gas. GOD DAMN STREET RACERS

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Ricers will always want a piece of ya, even with the covers on stewie

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 06:07 PM

Yeah I dont even bother with ricers. I wanna race my buddy's trans am and see how it compares. last time he went to the track he was running low 14s high 13s i think it would be a close race

Pablo · 02-11-2008, 06:23 PM

Jagg, perhaps you are being a bit too practical and analytical. I agree that the exhaust as designed by Mother is probably perfectly suited for Stewie, and that power gains from changing it are nil, however, I for one find it a bit quiet. I'm not looking to shake up the neighbors mind you, but the exhaust note is just a bit wimpy.

Can ya tell I just ordered an HKS cat back for Baby?............

S2K Reborn · 02-11-2008, 06:29 PM

see i was lookin at invidia apexi and hks. but the bein that stock is quiet, most ricers that wanna race dont actually know how fast you are... at least not until ur about 3 lengths ahead going into 2nd hahaha

Pablo · 02-11-2008, 06:47 PM

My favorite way of dealing with a ricer is to rev the engine slightly at the light (the slightly louder exhaust helps here) , give him or her the "let's go for it" look and them let the take off like a bat out of Hell looking like a total ass as I mosey on doing my 3.5K RPM shifts.

This works especially well if you know that the gendarme like to hang out in that particular area.

RegardsPablo

jagg · 02-11-2008, 06:59 PM

Of course, I can totally see your viewpoint here Pablo.
Stewie's exhaust note under v-tec rpms does belie the screaming beast within, and that's a good thing. A stealthy design, if not by engine dynamics alone.

I disagree that you can be overly practical or analytical when it comes to a complex machine, 'N especially an automobile..... In a car like Stewie, nothing gets done until a bunch of overly analytical minds, with a penchant for practicality, get to thinking about building a sportscar.

jagg

s2kx2 · 02-11-2008, 07:19 PM

Stock

Pablo · 02-11-2008, 07:49 PM

Jagg, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Again, I am not denying that that analysis and practicality have their place in car design, but so do excitement and passion. Mother did her job. She did all the planning and analysis and created an excellent machine. Adding a slightly louder exhaust may give one, me for example, a certain amount of sensuous pleasure, e.g. the sweet sound a a throaty exhaust. This does not in any way undo all of mothers good work. What's the harm? It's my dime.

Let me try to explain using a metaphor. One could make love in s sterile room with nice white pristine sheets and large fluorescent lights. it would be very practical and if one were to analyze it it would be an excellent environment for procreation.

Personally, given the choice, I prefer a glass of Cabernet, candles, perfume, and a nice room overlooking the ocean.

Regards
Pablo

jagg · 02-11-2008, 07:57 PM

Agreed Pablo, agreed.....

TheSoundMan21 · 02-12-2008, 02:35 PM

lol nice job Pablo.... how much was the HKS I used to drive a Mini Cooper S with an after market exhaust and loved going under over passes just reving sounded so nice. I kinda miss it.

Pablo · 02-12-2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSoundMan21

lol nice job Pablo.... how much was the HKS I used to drive a Mini Cooper S with an after market exhaust and loved going under over passes just reving sounded so nice. I kinda miss it.

Ya know SoundMan, I used to do the same thing with my Blackbird. She had a pair of carbon fiber Two Brothers slip ons. I used to love blipping the throttle while under an over pass. I missed it with Stewie, hence, the HKS.

I found it on eBay. The seller has 2 or 3 left I think. With shipping $740

Best Regards
Pablo

TheSoundMan21 · 02-12-2008, 03:48 PM

Sweet maybe someday lol

02-11-2008, 03:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	Exhaust: Single or Dual? Im looking at exhaust's for my S and im just wondering which which will give me better performance overall. A single tip or dual tip. Your opinions would greatly help __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 03:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	I heard thought that the single tip gives you a slightly better power gain. T or F ?? __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 03:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rick006 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 30	Single or double tip I run a single outlet magnaflow which holds the noise down and gives good power. Just my 2 cents.

02-11-2008, 04:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	So what ur saying is it would be more beneficial to buy a single? On the good side their cheaper on average __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 05:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,673	Dool is cool. Singles are for Mavericks. Sorry jagg but did you ever see a Mav with duels? __________________ Don

02-11-2008, 03:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 957	I think duel pipes will remove you emissions quicker.

02-11-2008, 03:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	the only gain I can see since it's an I-4 powerplant, is that you'd shave off a few pounds with the single tipped exhaust.....the duals are a fake-out on the S2000. They're there for asthetics only. jagg

02-11-2008, 05:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	I sense a new photo mission DJJSR......If I find a Mav with twins on it's arse, there should be a reward.... jagg

02-11-2008, 05:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	that still doesn't answer my question, which is better? or is it just a personal preference kinda thing? __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 05:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	Sorry Reborn, got sidetracked. The single is better only because it saves a little bit of weight. Personal opinion: the factory setup is fine the way it is, looks alot better, and it's built to last the life of the car. The nominal gain by changing it out isn't worth the expense. For what it costs, you could buy alot of gas. It's just so much money flushed down the toilet. But..Yes. Common sense says the single setup is in theory a better configuration. You could achieve the same benefit by emptying the trunk. jagg

02-11-2008, 05:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
SoMe0nE2tAlK2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 131	As far as straight power gains in general single will be better. Also lighter when compared to an equal-level duals. But can you live with a hole on the left side of your rear bumper? I couldnt. __________________

02-11-2008, 05:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	Power gains? I ain't seein' it. jagg

02-11-2008, 05:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	Naw i couldn't, thats why its hard to decide. The stock exhaust looks awsome. It adds to the flow of the car. Also, if ya go aftermarket, u have all the ricers in town wanting a piece of ya and thats just waste of gas. GOD DAMN STREET RACERS ) __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 06:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	Yeah I dont even bother with ricers. I wanna race my buddy's trans am and see how it compares. last time he went to the track he was running low 14s high 13s i think it would be a close race __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 06:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 604	Jagg, perhaps you are being a bit too practical and analytical. I agree that the exhaust as designed by Mother is probably perfectly suited for Stewie, and that power gains from changing it are nil, however, I for one find it a bit quiet. I'm not looking to shake up the neighbors mind you, but the exhaust note is just a bit wimpy. Can ya tell I just ordered an HKS cat back for Baby?............ __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

02-11-2008, 06:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
S2K Reborn TxHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 62	see i was lookin at invidia apexi and hks. but the bein that stock is quiet, most ricers that wanna race dont actually know how fast you are... at least not until ur about 3 lengths ahead going into 2nd hahaha __________________ The top down, the wind in your face, and all the other cars having to hit their brakes to slow down around the turns

02-11-2008, 06:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 604	My favorite way of dealing with a ricer is to rev the engine slightly at the light (the slightly louder exhaust helps here) , give him or her the "let's go for it" look and them let the take off like a bat out of Hell looking like a total ass as I mosey on doing my 3.5K RPM shifts. This works especially well if you know that the gendarme like to hang out in that particular area. RegardsPablo __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

02-11-2008, 06:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	Of course, I can totally see your viewpoint here Pablo. Stewie's exhaust note under v-tec rpms does belie the screaming beast within, and that's a good thing. A stealthy design, if not by engine dynamics alone. I disagree that you can be overly practical or analytical when it comes to a complex machine, 'N especially an automobile..... In a car like Stewie, nothing gets done until a bunch of overly analytical minds, with a penchant for practicality, get to thinking about building a sportscar. jagg

02-11-2008, 07:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
s2kx2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 361	Stock

02-11-2008, 07:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 604	Jagg, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Again, I am not denying that that analysis and practicality have their place in car design, but so do excitement and passion. Mother did her job. She did all the planning and analysis and created an excellent machine. Adding a slightly louder exhaust may give one, me for example, a certain amount of sensuous pleasure, e.g. the sweet sound a a throaty exhaust. This does not in any way undo all of mothers good work. What's the harm? It's my dime. Let me try to explain using a metaphor. One could make love in s sterile room with nice white pristine sheets and large fluorescent lights. it would be very practical and if one were to analyze it it would be an excellent environment for procreation. Personally, given the choice, I prefer a glass of Cabernet, candles, perfume, and a nice room overlooking the ocean. Regards Pablo __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

02-11-2008, 07:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,449	Agreed Pablo, agreed.....

02-12-2008, 02:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
TheSoundMan21 Village Pyro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 973	lol nice job Pablo.... how much was the HKS I used to drive a Mini Cooper S with an after market exhaust and loved going under over passes just reving sounded so nice. I kinda miss it. __________________ If you want to avoid toil, check your God Blessed OIL.

02-12-2008, 03:48 PM	#25 (permalink)
TheSoundMan21 Village Pyro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 973	Sweet maybe someday lol __________________ If you want to avoid toil, check your God Blessed OIL.

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