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cone destroyer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: champaign, IL
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AP1- AP2 ?
being a new owner of a stewie, what is the difference between AP1 and AP2, is it just the difference in production years, or is it something else?
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you have been here for a bit...............
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cone destroyer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: champaign, IL
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i bought my car in March, same time i got on here..
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B.A.M.F.
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 578
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different front/rear bumper and headlights/tailights. different engine, some interior changes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 391
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Not to mention that the steering ratio, spring rates, shock settings on AP-1s are closer to the CR. Gearing is different top speed on AP-1s (according to R&T) in 2001 was 165 miles per hour. AP-2s top out around 154 miles per hour. AP-1s use more oil than AP-2s. There are numerous other subtle differences but I don't feel like typing them all in.
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cone destroyer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: champaign, IL
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thanks all for setting me straight
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I bet that 9k makes a huge difference in daily driving. What was I thinking passing up a better stock engine for 1k more of rpms that I already can't use unless I go outa my way. =p
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: macedon, NY
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ap1-ap2
I have my flame suit on here, I would say looks wise, I do like the AP2, for reasons of headlights, bumper, etc. Driving wise, AP1 all the way baby!!!
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[黒竜]
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Not that it really matters which is better. The ratio of high school and college kids that can afford new stewies are about .1% of the car enthusiast population, so the world will continue to buy ap1's on the cheap.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hooterville
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Blah, blah, blah, you're talkin all that performance, technical stuff when really it all comes down to one thing. Cupholders, one vs. two.
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hrm that is a valid argument!
but I don't risk putting drinks in my car due to cornering speed during the twisties.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Southern MD
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You are joking right? You have to be joking. Who gives a $h!+ about cup holders. It's sports car. Your killi me DJJSR. LOL
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The 480, Mesa, AZ
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But which one is actually faster? ive heard points for ap1s and ap2s. I have an 04 so Im biased and think ap2s are faster
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Dismember
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: TAX STATE (CT)
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Well it's like this. With one cup holder you can cary one beer, bottle of booze etc. With two cup holders you can carry two items of speed enhancement so two cup holders are faster. See, easy wasn't it!
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Dismember
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: TAX STATE (CT)
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Quote:
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Utah
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Resident Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Joisey
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I'll never be convinced that anything, other than the driverz, makez a bidd'a difference between these two very worthy sportscars.
"The race goes to the swift" . . . 'n the swift ain't got nothin' ta doo with whether the driver'z wearin' an AP1'r'an AP2. Don't let the magazine word-mongerz shag yuz. It ain't all jus' about Stewie. It's about you'n Stewie! Java
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The Endless Mountains
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Ahhhhhhhhh.........This is a golden droplet folks. Snatch it up before it's gone. jagg |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 1,026
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Just be glad your all able to drive a $#@@#$ sports car !
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hooterville
Posts: 1,749
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AP1 or AP2? This is one of those questions like "what's the best motor oil?". There's just different opinions. Maybe no right answer.
Has anyone ever seen a test where the same professional driver took both cars around a road course for comparison? I've seen the one where the two japanese guys are chasing each other around the track, but that's two different drivers.
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Personally, I like the AP1's a lot better than the AP2's. Lookwise and engine wise.
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Wisdom begins in wonder.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lorton,VA
Posts: 526
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ap1's for me. Just because thats what i own. If i had a ap2 it would have to be one from one of those countrys that still use ap1 motors in it. That is really the only reason i like the ap1 better. I love the looks and style of the ap2, not saying i dont like my ap1's style. Its nice to suck up a ap2 on the hwy. Just yesterday i ran up on a CR, very sweet and clean car. Sucked him up too.
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I still cant get my foot off the floor and its been over a 2yrs now
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 543
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AP1 for me, as I am the original owner and will never sell it. And if what was said above about the CR suspension being close to the AP1, then mine must be even better with it's Mugen NZ Dampers and Swift Sway Bars.
Jonathan
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Resident Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Joisey
Posts: 5,433
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'Drove both, love both, jus' so happened that the best deal that came along first wuz the sweet AP2 that I abuse daily'n fitz me like'n ol' shoe.
As good'z they doo whut they doo, they could look alot uglier'n it wouldn't make no neva'mind ta me. 'Originally got Stewie to take care'a those timez when the rain takes the fun oud'a bein' out on'a bike ('Gettin' on in yearz don'cha know). Stewie'z turned out'ta be such a sweet ride, I look forward to the bad weather'z well'z the good. Stewie (Either of'em) could only come in two-tone taxi-yellow'n kelly green with a purple bowler on'ittz head n' I'd still own one. An AP2. No, an AP1. No . . maybe whut I need izz one'a each. Y'know? Java
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