Alright, Test pipe opinions needed

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 08:15 AM

So, I am kind of wanthing to do something else to my car, and I just got my emmissions tested, so I won't have to worry about that for a couple years. So I am thinking I want to get a test pipe. What are your opinions? Is it worth the $60-$100? Is there REALLY any gain at all? Does it really make your existing exhaust a lot louder? My current is a pretty deep sound, but only actualyl loud at vtec... Let me know

Thanks.

redS2k06 · 07-30-2008, 09:00 AM

SXY do u use an INVIDiA exhaust?

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 09:05 AM

I have an older Tanabe Catback, and a custom resonator. It sounds a little deeper, and a lot quieter than the Invidia, but a similar tone.

gomarlins3 · 07-30-2008, 10:03 AM

I have one and have had it for years. Some people complain about a smell, but I don't smell anything.

batguano · 07-30-2008, 10:03 AM

My experience with the TP was,it was great for a few weeks then it got tiresome. The sound with my Invidia was rice and every time I stopped, I got foul smelling exaust fumes.

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 10:40 AM

I'm not really worried about the exhaust fumes, I do run with my hard top most of the time, and when I don't I really don't think I will care about the fumes. -All of my friends have them on their S's, Z's, and STI's so that's not a problem for me.

I did notice that the last few times I went on drives with other S's, that they just seemed to pull a little harder than me. One was stock with a
Test Pipe only, and one was stock with Exhaust and Test Pipe only. On the on ramps and up hills they just seemed to have a little more 'oomph' than me.

I really just want to know if the mojority thinks it sounds ricey, and if they think you get any worthwhile power gains?

batguano · 07-30-2008, 11:42 AM

I don't know if I was influenced by the sound but my S felt like it had better throttle response with the TP.
I guess it makes sense. The engine is breathing easier without the obstruction of the cat.

D1sclaimer · 07-30-2008, 12:07 PM

I've noticed that it helped out with the vtec crossover point. Its a bit more smooth and feels like it pulls a little more there.

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by D1sclaimer

I've noticed that it helped out with the vtec crossover point. Its a bit more smooth and feels like it pulls a little more there.

That's what I'm really looking for.

Java Junky · 07-30-2008, 12:22 PM

'Never messed with Stewie'z exhaust, so the only thing I've got to go by is some past experience with other vehicles'n, when the situation presented itself ('cat went south, cut-outz were gettin' installed, exhaust work wuz bein' done) I usually opted for eliminatin'em.
But in none of those catless ridez did I ever once notice anything worth writin' home about power-improvementwize.
So, I godd'a vote OTHER: 'wouldn't doo'itt 'cause I don't believe it's worth the time'n trouble.

J'sS2K · 07-30-2008, 12:25 PM

To be honest, I've tried gutted catalytic converter and testpipe on stock exhaust. I didn't really feel the different. Maybe there was, but too insignificant that you can't feel.

As far as sound, it does sound a bit louder, but you can't really notice it until 3500rpm or above.

The part I hated about running the testpipe is the smell. If you left the engine running for like 2 or 3 minutes in the garage, even while it open, you really smell it when you step out. I sold both the testpipe and gutted cat on here. So you know I am speaking from experience. LOL

Overall, I don't think it worth it. If it is sound that you are seeking, I would suggest you get an exhaust instead of a testpipe.

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 12:40 PM

Wel Java, one of the other reasons I'm thinking about this is - I have something loose on my exhaust, and I need to change where the hangers are at on the mufflers bc they are sticking out too far in the back. So I'm going to have it up on a lift to do this, so I figured I might as well do it all at once...

SXY_S2K · 07-30-2008, 12:42 PM

J, I have exhaust already, and I'm not looking for sound...

DJJSR · 07-30-2008, 01:49 PM

I think it's a placebo. The car may sound different, so you think it's faster. I'd like to see dyno sheets showing a gain by ONLY removing the converter.

The Wolf · 07-30-2008, 01:59 PM

And don't forget that if you are caught tampering with a catalytic converter on a street driven vehicle it is a felony with a fine of $2,500.00. Not really worth it.

bbcricketta · 07-31-2008, 08:58 AM

save the planet sxy. be green. give a hoot, don't pollute. reduce your carbon footprint.

Red Stwokay · 07-31-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gomarlins3

I have one and have had it for years. Some people complain about a smell, but I don't smell anything.

"have had it for years" Hi GM, Have you gone through emissions with it?

Red Stwokay · 07-31-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SXY_S2K

I'm not really worried about the exhaust fumes, I do run with my hard top most of the time, and when I don't I really don't think I will care about the fumes. -All of my friends have them on their S's, Z's, and STI's so that's not a problem for me.

I did notice that the last few times I went on drives with other S's, that they just seemed to pull a little harder than me. One was stock with a
Test Pipe only, and one was stock with Exhaust and Test Pipe only. On the on ramps and up hills they just seemed to have a little more 'oomph' than me.

I really just want to know if the mojority thinks it sounds ricey, and if they think you get any worthwhile power gains?

"All of my friends have them on their S's, Z's, and STI's" Hi SXY, How do your friends make out with emissions? Do they leave it on and pass or do they swap it back for testing?

Red Stwokay · 07-31-2008, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

And don't forget that if you are caught tampering with a catalytic converter on a street driven vehicle it is a felony with a fine of $2,500.00. Not really worth it.

Don't forget, they have to prove YOU did it... But good point for those afraid of court.

We should have a poll for speeding since the majority of this poll seems to obay the law. Guess none of those people exceed the speed limit either

The Wolf · 07-31-2008, 11:34 AM

Maybe,
If you bought the car used. If you are the orginal owner and tamper they will own your A$$ as I don't think you would be able to convince them that the "test pipe troll" stole your car, took it to a muffler shop, removed your CAT, put on a test pipe and returned your car while you were sleeping!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Stwokay

Don't forget, they have to prove YOU did it... But good point for those afraid of court.

We should have a poll for speeding since the majority of this poll seems to obay the law. Guess none of those people exceed the speed limit either

DJJSR · 07-31-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

........ the "test pipe troll" stole your car, took it to a muffler shop, removed your CAT, put on a test pipe and returned your car while you were sleeping!

Does that really happen?

J'sS2K · 07-31-2008, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJSR

Does that really happen?

Anything can happen bro. Have a look at our presidential campains!

dezignpro04 · 07-31-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

the "test pipe troll" stole your car, took it to a muffler shop, removed your CAT, put on a test pipe and returned your car while you were sleeping!

Why would the "test pipe troll" need to take it to a muffler shop? He seems more than capable than doing it himself and pocketing the money.

bbcricketta · 07-31-2008, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Maybe,
If you bought the car used. If you are the orginal owner and tamper they will own your A$$ as I don't think you would be able to convince them that the "test pipe troll" stole your car, took it to a muffler shop, removed your CAT, put on a test pipe and returned your car while you were sleeping!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJSR

Does that really happen?

they might not put put a test pipe on your car but they sure as shootin' will steal your CAT.

View Poll Results: Is a Test Pipe worth it?
No, I would never do it because it's illegal.	12	31.58%
It's worth it and you can feel a gain.	6	15.79%
I don't think you feel a gain, but the sound is nice.	4	10.53%
I really don't know.	16	42.11%
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07-30-2008, 08:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	Alright, Test pipe opinions needed So, I am kind of wanthing to do something else to my car, and I just got my emmissions tested, so I won't have to worry about that for a couple years. So I am thinking I want to get a test pipe. What are your opinions? Is it worth the $60-$100? Is there REALLY any gain at all? Does it really make your existing exhaust a lot louder? My current is a pretty deep sound, but only actualyl loud at vtec... Let me know Thanks. __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3* Last edited by SXY_S2K : 07-30-2008 at 08:21 AM.

07-30-2008, 09:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
redS2k06 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 41	SXY do u use an INVIDiA exhaust? Last edited by redS2k06 : 07-30-2008 at 02:02 PM.

07-30-2008, 09:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	I have an older Tanabe Catback, and a custom resonator. It sounds a little deeper, and a lot quieter than the Invidia, but a similar tone. __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-30-2008, 10:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,644	I have one and have had it for years. Some people complain about a smell, but I don't smell anything. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

07-30-2008, 10:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 537	My experience with the TP was,it was great for a few weeks then it got tiresome. The sound with my Invidia was rice and every time I stopped, I got foul smelling exaust fumes. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...DBR2008Pt1.flv

07-30-2008, 10:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	I'm not really worried about the exhaust fumes, I do run with my hard top most of the time, and when I don't I really don't think I will care about the fumes. -All of my friends have them on their S's, Z's, and STI's so that's not a problem for me. I did notice that the last few times I went on drives with other S's, that they just seemed to pull a little harder than me. One was stock with a Test Pipe only, and one was stock with Exhaust and Test Pipe only. On the on ramps and up hills they just seemed to have a little more 'oomph' than me. I really just want to know if the mojority thinks it sounds ricey, and if they think you get any worthwhile power gains? __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-30-2008, 11:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 537	I don't know if I was influenced by the sound but my S felt like it had better throttle response with the TP. I guess it makes sense. The engine is breathing easier without the obstruction of the cat. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...DBR2008Pt1.flv

07-30-2008, 12:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 423	I've noticed that it helped out with the vtec crossover point. Its a bit more smooth and feels like it pulls a little more there. __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-30-2008, 12:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,482	'Never messed with Stewie'z exhaust, so the only thing I've got to go by is some past experience with other vehicles'n, when the situation presented itself ('cat went south, cut-outz were gettin' installed, exhaust work wuz bein' done) I usually opted for eliminatin'em. But in none of those catless ridez did I ever once notice anything worth writin' home about power-improvementwize. So, I godd'a vote OTHER: 'wouldn't doo'itt 'cause I don't believe it's worth the time'n trouble. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-30-2008, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
J'sS2K The Car Camera Mount Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 808	To be honest, I've tried gutted catalytic converter and testpipe on stock exhaust. I didn't really feel the different. Maybe there was, but too insignificant that you can't feel. As far as sound, it does sound a bit louder, but you can't really notice it until 3500rpm or above. The part I hated about running the testpipe is the smell. If you left the engine running for like 2 or 3 minutes in the garage, even while it open, you really smell it when you step out. I sold both the testpipe and gutted cat on here. So you know I am speaking from experience. LOL Overall, I don't think it worth it. If it is sound that you are seeking, I would suggest you get an exhaust instead of a testpipe. __________________ So you're heading to the track and you want to record your sessions. PM me for an in-car camera mount For everything else, you are on your own! Last edited by J'sS2K : 07-30-2008 at 12:27 PM.

07-30-2008, 12:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	Wel Java, one of the other reasons I'm thinking about this is - I have something loose on my exhaust, and I need to change where the hangers are at on the mufflers bc they are sticking out too far in the back. So I'm going to have it up on a lift to do this, so I figured I might as well do it all at once... __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-30-2008, 12:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	J, I have exhaust already, and I'm not looking for sound... __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-30-2008, 01:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,674	I think it's a placebo. The car may sound different, so you think it's faster. I'd like to see dyno sheets showing a gain by ONLY removing the converter. __________________ Don

07-30-2008, 01:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
The Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pasadena Ca. Posts: 16	And don't forget that if you are caught tampering with a catalytic converter on a street driven vehicle it is a felony with a fine of $2,500.00. Not really worth it.

07-31-2008, 08:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
bbcricketta normal aspiration Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: south georgia Posts: 689	save the planet sxy. be green. give a hoot, don't pollute. reduce your carbon footprint. __________________ 2007 berlina black Last edited by bbcricketta : 07-31-2008 at 10:14 AM. Reason: save the whales