turbo

groho · 05-11-2005, 02:23 AM

I'm in the Marines and am currently deployed to the middle east. I'm treating myself to an S2k when i get home. I already talked to the dealer, who my father is good friends with, and he said he will have the used 2002 blk S2k with under 30,000 miles waiting on the lot for me when i get home. My sister in law is going to frankenstein the engine for me as soon as i get it for no charge.

She owns her own car shop so installation and prices on parts won't be a big problem for me. The next step is a turbo.

I want something with a minimum of a 9.0 psi boost because I want to keep it in the safe boost range, even though with a frankensteined engine it will be able to support a much larger boost. So my question is... what turbos give the best results to the S2k?

Halo · 05-11-2005, 06:01 PM

Exactly what do you mean by Frankenstein? More specifically, are you talking about pulling the engine out and rebuilding it with new sleeves, pistons, rods, changing the compression ratio, harnesses... what?

Ultimate Racing makes the most popular turbo setup for the S. 9psi boost is nothing to laugh at on the S given the high compression ratio. If you seriously want to build a high boost car, I'd strongly consider going with something that was turbocharged from the factory.

jwa4378 · 05-12-2005, 07:03 AM

If you are looking to not screw your engine over, I would go with a Supercharger, not a turbo. In order for a turbo to work in a car with as high of a compression ratio as the S2000, you will need some impressive boost, as well as a new ECU that will run a richer fuel mixture. The thing about the S2000 is that the engine is already tuned the hell out as it is. If you are going to get some mad power out of the turbo, you will need to do as was stated above, haul the engine, sleeve it, replace the rods and pistons, and change the ratio via a new ECU. You will also need a new exhaust system, as a turbo is useless unless it can breathe (Blow-off valve / emergency waste gate would also help). The SAFEST thing with this engine, short of hualing the whole thing and rebuilding it, is to replace the ECU, get an intake and a new exhaust. Some ECU's have registered 23 WHP gains (spoon, I think). I would get your sis to explain the risks involved with turboing a car with a compression ratio like this without rebuilding the block. You dont want to throw a rod or crack the head from the added pressure.

RCduck7 · 05-12-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo

Exactly what do you mean by Frankenstein? More specifically, are you talking about pulling the engine out and rebuilding it with new sleeves, pistons, rods, changing the compression ratio, harnesses... what?

Ultimate Racing makes the most popular turbo setup for the S. 9psi boost is nothing to laugh at on the S given the high compression ratio. If you seriously want to build a high boost car, I'd strongly consider going with something that was turbocharged from the factory.

Yes, i agree.

I dreamt about it to but got my wakeup call some time ago.
Unless you hand over a looottt of money to make the engine capable of such things you should forget about it.
Even with all the mods something can go wrong from all the mods if not done perfect.
My advice is forget about a turbo or supercharger and go for something more modest like a cobination of a cold airintake, exhaust and ECU.
You will be a liitle quiker but not near a turbo for sure.

s2000_vtec_mike · 05-13-2005, 07:03 PM

2 words natural asperated

S2000_TURK · 05-14-2005, 06:57 AM

why you guys never think of a stroker kit?

if I could have bought the parts with the same price of USA I would have the fastes s2k

wowowox · 05-14-2005, 11:00 PM

can u expmain what is a stroker kit??
u mean like change the engine displacement etc? bigger pistons ...

Halo · 05-16-2005, 09:56 AM

I don't see how a longer stroke S compares. There's guys making 5-600hp with turbocharged S2000's. I don't think you're going to get anywhere near that with just a bit more displacement.

S2000_TURK · 05-16-2005, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo

I don't see how a longer stroke S compares. There's guys making 5-600hp with turbocharged S2000's. I don't think you're going to get anywhere near that with just a bit more displacement.

yeah with a 600hp turobcharged S2k I can hang around my mecanic

how can you trust your car while you are on a vacation in that case?

the question is haveing as much as HP being as much as different from the others
without having troubles with your car
how long you can drive a turbocharged S2k without having any porblem?

I know a civic with a stoker kit on his B16a engine he is much faster than me though that car done already more than 100.000km
my car is only a little bit more than 2000km

Halo · 05-16-2005, 03:26 PM

In terms of your statement of "having the fastest S2K" at least, having a bit more displacement isn't going to compete with forced induction.

Vacation? Leave the car locked in my garage like it is now.

Rude Bwoy · 06-08-2005, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groho

I'm in the Marines and am currently deployed to the middle east. I'm treating myself to an S2k when i get home. I already talked to the dealer, who my father is good friends with, and he said he will have the used 2002 blk S2k with under 30,000 miles waiting on the lot for me when i get home. My sister in law is going to frankenstein the engine for me as soon as i get it for no charge.

She owns her own car shop so installation and prices on parts won't be a big problem for me. The next step is a turbo.

I want something with a minimum of a 9.0 psi boost because I want to keep it in the safe boost range, even though with a frankensteined engine it will be able to support a much larger boost. So my question is... what turbos give the best results to the S2k?

Go with the SC63 Turbo. Might also want to get a stand alone ECU, and have it prof. tuned. I can't find the link at the moment, but there were some people that boosted 26psi on a stock motor with a stand alone ECU (think it was the AEM, not sure). I know the AEM ECUs are top of the line for the integra's. As far as compression you could leave the pistons you have in the s2k there or you could get lower compression or turbo pistons to boost more and easier.

Rude Bwoy · 06-08-2005, 08:08 AM

By the way before people start asking how 26psi was done on a stock motor, it is possible with a stand alone ECU and the proper tuner. Remember that the s2k comes with forged internals...

Java Junky · 06-19-2005, 07:28 AM

Hey Gyrene;
Don't rightly care which way you go with the engine r' the car, but just remember to keep the leash on yourself. Too many 'renes made it through the wars to come home n' punch their tickets lettin' loose in their dream rides.
There's old pilots n' bold pilots. Ain't no old, bold pilots.
Be well, n' thank you.

passmans2kNY · 10-20-2005, 02:59 PM

www.lovefab.com theres the answer, the gt1 turbo kit, with the cometic head gasket which lowers ur compression to about 9 to 1 , the stock pistons arew forged and are good up to 14 psi, i would recomend head work though, if u decide to do piston, block sleeving rode etc.. then this kit will produce huge hp with high boost, check out the manifold, its sick

05-11-2005, 02:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
groho Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 15	turbo I'm in the Marines and am currently deployed to the middle east. I'm treating myself to an S2k when i get home. I already talked to the dealer, who my father is good friends with, and he said he will have the used 2002 blk S2k with under 30,000 miles waiting on the lot for me when i get home. My sister in law is going to frankenstein the engine for me as soon as i get it for no charge. She owns her own car shop so installation and prices on parts won't be a big problem for me. The next step is a turbo. I want something with a minimum of a 9.0 psi boost because I want to keep it in the safe boost range, even though with a frankensteined engine it will be able to support a much larger boost. So my question is... what turbos give the best results to the S2k?

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05-11-2005, 06:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 598	Exactly what do you mean by Frankenstein? More specifically, are you talking about pulling the engine out and rebuilding it with new sleeves, pistons, rods, changing the compression ratio, harnesses... what? Ultimate Racing makes the most popular turbo setup for the S. 9psi boost is nothing to laugh at on the S given the high compression ratio. If you seriously want to build a high boost car, I'd strongly consider going with something that was turbocharged from the factory.

05-12-2005, 07:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
jwa4378 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27	If you are looking to not screw your engine over, I would go with a Supercharger, not a turbo. In order for a turbo to work in a car with as high of a compression ratio as the S2000, you will need some impressive boost, as well as a new ECU that will run a richer fuel mixture. The thing about the S2000 is that the engine is already tuned the hell out as it is. If you are going to get some mad power out of the turbo, you will need to do as was stated above, haul the engine, sleeve it, replace the rods and pistons, and change the ratio via a new ECU. You will also need a new exhaust system, as a turbo is useless unless it can breathe (Blow-off valve / emergency waste gate would also help). The SAFEST thing with this engine, short of hualing the whole thing and rebuilding it, is to replace the ECU, get an intake and a new exhaust. Some ECU's have registered 23 WHP gains (spoon, I think). I would get your sis to explain the risks involved with turboing a car with a compression ratio like this without rebuilding the block. You dont want to throw a rod or crack the head from the added pressure.

05-13-2005, 07:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
s2000_vtec_mike Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 62	2 words natural asperated

05-14-2005, 06:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
S2000_TURK Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 94	why you guys never think of a stroker kit? if I could have bought the parts with the same price of USA I would have the fastes s2k

05-14-2005, 11:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
wowowox Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 307	can u expmain what is a stroker kit?? u mean like change the engine displacement etc? bigger pistons ...

05-16-2005, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 598	I don't see how a longer stroke S compares. There's guys making 5-600hp with turbocharged S2000's. I don't think you're going to get anywhere near that with just a bit more displacement.

05-16-2005, 03:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 598	In terms of your statement of "having the fastest S2K" at least, having a bit more displacement isn't going to compete with forced induction. Vacation? Leave the car locked in my garage like it is now.

06-08-2005, 08:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
Rude Bwoy Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	By the way before people start asking how 26psi was done on a stock motor, it is possible with a stand alone ECU and the proper tuner. Remember that the s2k comes with forged internals...

06-19-2005, 07:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,433	Hey Gyrene; Don't rightly care which way you go with the engine r' the car, but just remember to keep the leash on yourself. Too many 'renes made it through the wars to come home n' punch their tickets lettin' loose in their dream rides. There's old pilots n' bold pilots. Ain't no old, bold pilots. Be well, n' thank you.

10-20-2005, 02:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
passmans2kNY Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 181	www.lovefab.com theres the answer, the gt1 turbo kit, with the cometic head gasket which lowers ur compression to about 9 to 1 , the stock pistons arew forged and are good up to 14 psi, i would recomend head work though, if u decide to do piston, block sleeving rode etc.. then this kit will produce huge hp with high boost, check out the manifold, its sick