BMW Z4 vs. S2000

UGA Dawg · 06-20-2005, 05:11 PM

Chatting on the BMW Z4 forum tonight......yup, even the z4 enthusists admit the S2000 is mor the performance car.

S2000_TURK · 06-21-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UGA Dawg

Chatting on the BMW Z4 forum tonight......yup, even the z4 enthusists admit the S2000 is mor the performance car.

so?
ahahah of course they should admit that
it is called reality, I can even beat Z4 3.0 at top speed ,in 400metres,
at 0-100km acceleration only cornering of Z4 and handling is a little bit better than us, it is not a problem though I love my drift machine

warshan · 06-21-2005, 05:45 AM

We drove both on the same day before deciding which to buy. My wife thought the Z4 was too "soft" in the corners. She called the Z4 a luxury car and the S2000 a drivers car. The Z4 does have a reputation of having a light rear end with controll problems on cornering.
ps>> she called the Miata a "girls car"!

UGA Dawg · 06-21-2005, 06:08 AM

She's kind to the Miata. It's more like a "kiddie kar"

Java Junky · 06-21-2005, 06:30 AM

You're given three options:
a "lowly" Miata,
a bus stop,
or, mommy and the minivan.
All of a sudden the Miata reaches a new level of appreciation. C'mon guys. No, it ain't an S2, but everything has it's place.

UGA Dawg · 06-21-2005, 07:15 AM

You bet. There was a time, (not so long ago) that I would have killed for a Miata('

')

gomarlins3 · 07-09-2005, 09:08 PM

Miata's are nice and can be VERY quick in the hands of a good driver. Many do VERY well at autoX events when driven properly.

jwa4378 · 07-11-2005, 03:18 PM

miatas are QUITE the capable car, and can be made REAL fast with very little $. I LOVE my S, but its SO expensive to make faster. The miata offers more range because its compression is lower. Hell, there is even a crate V8 that can be crammed under the hood that is good for 400hp. (Same one Ford retrofitted for the Focus V8 show car). Kinda screws up the balance, but Jackson Racing and Racing Beat all have TONS of stuff for that little thing. I just wish there was more stuff (that is affordable.....not $1000+ for a comptech exhaust) for the S.

John

Halo · 07-11-2005, 07:52 PM

Lets not forget the S starts at 240 hp. I don't know why people are still surprised that it is expensive to make more power from the F20c. It already has a lot of go-fast mods, STOCK. It is not the car to buy to cheaply mod for F&F street racing, then again neither is the Miata.

The cost of mods generally go up as the cost of the car. A chip alone for an AMG MB can run in thousands. That said, the Comptech exhaust is worth every penny. It is not some cheap Chinese knock-off, with magnaflows welded to some random pipes. The thing fits together like you'd expect for that price. The finish looks as beautiful as the day I bought it.

Java Junky · 07-12-2005, 08:39 AM

That Comptech exhaust . . how loud izzitt compared to stock?
I don't mind if leaves, n' small animals get sucked into my wake, but I'd prefer not to otherwise advertise that I'm comin', there, or I've been there.

Halo · 07-12-2005, 04:47 PM

I won't lie, it's louder than I'd like, but that is subjective. It is far quieter than the Invidia or any single I've heard. It is definitely not for long 70+miles per hour drives on rolling terrain because it will drone, especially on climbs.

Though loud, the tone is perfect. Not raspy like some Civic fart can. Check out
http://www.s2000library.com/

for some samples. Best is to hear it firsthand of course.

Java Junky · 07-12-2005, 05:05 PM

Much thanx halo, thats exactly what I was lookin' for . . but where DO you find this stuff???

MattG · 07-12-2005, 11:08 PM

Under the rear bumper

Java Junky · 07-13-2005, 08:42 AM

Aaah! There IS life! Out@*#&in'standing!

jwa4378 · 07-13-2005, 02:54 PM

if you are looking for an impressive sound without any money, just remove the cover to the air box. Replace the filter with a cleanable K&N, and you have an almost 350Z-ish growl under acceleration. If you are looking for stuff, go to www.s2ki.com it is a more active board than this one, with more resources. By removing the air box, performance will degrade a bit in hot weather, as the air will be coming in from above the radiator, but it is nothing that you can really feel. If you are really staunch about performance, just get a CAI. I got an INJEN from a member on s2ki for $150 shipped to my front door. Comes in tomorrow. Should sound great, and with a bypass valve, hydolocking is not a problem.

John

Java Junky · 07-13-2005, 04:08 PM

Thanx jwa, but I've always looked dimly at anything that took my performance in the wrong direction, whatever the climate . . n' for a "sound"? Nah, thanx, but no thanx. My concerns over sound are in the opposite direction. If I could make the car silent (n' invisible) I would. But, even those benefits, if they took anything away from my perfornance, would be unacceptable.
Thanx for the suggestion and the info on the other site though.
But, as everything is a balance, I've always felt that you've gotta have all the options before you can make the best choices to wind up where you wanna be, (in this case "Stew-wize") so I really do appreciate your offerin' me your suggestion. It's jus' not for me.
Good luck with your new INJEN, n' keep us posted on how it works out. That's what this place is all about, ain't it?
Be well.

06-20-2005, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
UGA Dawg Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	BMW Z4 vs. S2000 Chatting on the BMW Z4 forum tonight......yup, even the z4 enthusists admit the S2000 is mor the performance car.

06-21-2005, 07:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
UGA Dawg Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	You bet. There was a time, (not so long ago) that I would have killed for a Miata('')

07-09-2005, 09:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,481	Miata's are nice and can be VERY quick in the hands of a good driver. Many do VERY well at autoX events when driven properly. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

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UGA Dawg Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	She's kind to the Miata. It's more like a "kiddie kar"

06-21-2005, 06:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,287	You're given three options: a "lowly" Miata, a bus stop, or, mommy and the minivan. All of a sudden the Miata reaches a new level of appreciation. C'mon guys. No, it ain't an S2, but everything has it's place.

07-11-2005, 03:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
jwa4378 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 31	miatas are QUITE the capable car, and can be made REAL fast with very little $. I LOVE my S, but its SO expensive to make faster. The miata offers more range because its compression is lower. Hell, there is even a crate V8 that can be crammed under the hood that is good for 400hp. (Same one Ford retrofitted for the Focus V8 show car). Kinda screws up the balance, but Jackson Racing and Racing Beat all have TONS of stuff for that little thing. I just wish there was more stuff (that is affordable.....not $1000+ for a comptech exhaust) for the S. John

07-11-2005, 07:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	Lets not forget the S starts at 240 hp. I don't know why people are still surprised that it is expensive to make more power from the F20c. It already has a lot of go-fast mods, STOCK. It is not the car to buy to cheaply mod for F&F street racing, then again neither is the Miata. The cost of mods generally go up as the cost of the car. A chip alone for an AMG MB can run in thousands. That said, the Comptech exhaust is worth every penny. It is not some cheap Chinese knock-off, with magnaflows welded to some random pipes. The thing fits together like you'd expect for that price. The finish looks as beautiful as the day I bought it.

07-12-2005, 08:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,287	That Comptech exhaust . . how loud izzitt compared to stock? I don't mind if leaves, n' small animals get sucked into my wake, but I'd prefer not to otherwise advertise that I'm comin', there, or I've been there.

07-12-2005, 04:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	I won't lie, it's louder than I'd like, but that is subjective. It is far quieter than the Invidia or any single I've heard. It is definitely not for long 70+miles per hour drives on rolling terrain because it will drone, especially on climbs. Though loud, the tone is perfect. Not raspy like some Civic fart can. Check out http://www.s2000library.com/ for some samples. Best is to hear it firsthand of course.

07-12-2005, 05:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,287	Much thanx halo, thats exactly what I was lookin' for . . but where DO you find this stuff???

07-12-2005, 11:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
MattG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 363	Under the rear bumper

07-13-2005, 08:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,287	Aaah! There IS life! Out@*#&in'standing!

07-13-2005, 02:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
jwa4378 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 31	if you are looking for an impressive sound without any money, just remove the cover to the air box. Replace the filter with a cleanable K&N, and you have an almost 350Z-ish growl under acceleration. If you are looking for stuff, go to www.s2ki.com it is a more active board than this one, with more resources. By removing the air box, performance will degrade a bit in hot weather, as the air will be coming in from above the radiator, but it is nothing that you can really feel. If you are really staunch about performance, just get a CAI. I got an INJEN from a member on s2ki for $150 shipped to my front door. Comes in tomorrow. Should sound great, and with a bypass valve, hydolocking is not a problem. John

07-13-2005, 04:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,287	Thanx jwa, but I've always looked dimly at anything that took my performance in the wrong direction, whatever the climate . . n' for a "sound"? Nah, thanx, but no thanx. My concerns over sound are in the opposite direction. If I could make the car silent (n' invisible) I would. But, even those benefits, if they took anything away from my perfornance, would be unacceptable. Thanx for the suggestion and the info on the other site though. But, as everything is a balance, I've always felt that you've gotta have all the options before you can make the best choices to wind up where you wanna be, (in this case "Stew-wize") so I really do appreciate your offerin' me your suggestion. It's jus' not for me. Good luck with your new INJEN, n' keep us posted on how it works out. That's what this place is all about, ain't it? Be well.