Reliability.. turbo.. n/A or superchargers

..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. · 01-11-2007, 09:55 PM

i would say n/A........wHaTs eveyone elses veiw>?

spa01s2k · 01-11-2007, 10:38 PM

I use to think N/A was the only way for reliability. But I'm starting to come around to forced induction. Even aftermarket F/I has been getting better with reliability. One of my friends daily drives a supercharged S2000, and has had basically no problems. As long as the car is maintained, I don't think anything should have any reliability problems.

allmotor13 · 01-11-2007, 11:02 PM

Allmotor is the way togo. I love the way a N/A motor sounds peeking at 9,000 up to 12,000rpm. like i say hondas should stay allmotor. plus you can build a N/A S2000 to beat up on turbo cars going down hill at the mountain roads

..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. · 01-12-2007, 12:24 AM

wHaTs the most POWER you can get out of N/A S2000.......ivE Seen 291whp i think is was the ASM s2000

gomarlins3 · 01-12-2007, 07:24 AM

In this order:
NA
SC
Turbo- depending on boost level.

I would like to know the amount of money spend to get 291 whp out of a NA motor.

spa01s2k · 01-12-2007, 02:13 PM

If I remember correctly, they spent close to $20,000 to get 291 out of the S2000 motor N/A. But it did reline quite a bit higher (can't remember how high).

allmotor13 · 01-12-2007, 06:33 PM

its ture you will spend quite a bit more for a N/A set up, but you will have instant power and no turbo/s.c. lag. and the reliability is much better on a N/A motor. and i've seen quite a few N/A S2000 in the 320whp range

gomarlins3 · 01-12-2007, 07:27 PM

If I can save $15,000, I will deal with a little (and I do know from experience that it is a very little ) lag. $20,000 for 90 WHP is WAY to rich for my blood.

Java Junky · 01-12-2007, 09:04 PM

Alodda talk about redline. Redline's more braggin' rights'n anything else. Bench-racin' fodder.
It's the power what gets 'er done.
N' I'm with Go, 15 thou's a wee bit too rich for my blood. From what I've read there're way more cost effective ways to get 90 r' so RWH, if that's your goal.
I'm a naturally aspirated fan, but if I flat-out hadda have that kind'a power increase I'd opt for forced induction.
Be well.
Java

..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. · 01-13-2007, 12:03 AM

how much power can a supercharger produce? with beefed up internals and everything else

s2000isu · 01-13-2007, 10:22 AM

3000++++++++ hp............ But on our block who knows

Scott · 01-13-2007, 12:25 PM

i think it gets to a point where you have to spend so much money to get reliable N/A power, that it's not worth it.

Example, someone said ASM spent $20,000 to get a 291hp N/A S2000. For $5000, you can have a nice turbo setup. For another $5k, you could build the engine so that it won't pop. So, you've spent half as much money and have easily twice as much power and just as much reliability.

DMC_S2000 · 01-17-2007, 06:03 AM

I would prefer N/A...because I like the idea of having a 300HP N/A small engine without usage of forced induction....not like evo's and impreza's...they're like cheaters using forced induction

..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. · 01-17-2007, 08:29 PM

i just like the idea of power but if you want lots of f/i is the way to go..............Now if i just wanted a car to have fun and do a little rippin around i would go n/A

Scott · 01-18-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMC_S2000

I would prefer N/A...because I like the idea of having a 300HP N/A small engine without usage of forced induction....not like evo's and impreza's...they're like cheaters using forced induction

If you want big power without forced induction, you're in the wrong car. Get yourself something with displacement.

The way I've always seen it, power is power. I don't care how I make it, as long as i can make it reliably and in a usable powerband.

01-11-2007, 09:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ChIcAgOLaND Posts: 37	Reliability.. turbo.. n/A or superchargers i would say n/A........wHaTs eveyone elses veiw>?

01-11-2007, 10:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
spa01s2k Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 310	I use to think N/A was the only way for reliability. But I'm starting to come around to forced induction. Even aftermarket F/I has been getting better with reliability. One of my friends daily drives a supercharged S2000, and has had basically no problems. As long as the car is maintained, I don't think anything should have any reliability problems. __________________ 2001 Honda S2000 1991 Honda Prelude 1994 Ford Bronco

01-12-2007, 07:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,807	In this order: NA SC Turbo- depending on boost level. I would like to know the amount of money spend to get 291 whp out of a NA motor. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

01-12-2007, 02:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
spa01s2k Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 310	If I remember correctly, they spent close to $20,000 to get 291 out of the S2000 motor N/A. But it did reline quite a bit higher (can't remember how high). __________________ 2001 Honda S2000 1991 Honda Prelude 1994 Ford Bronco

01-12-2007, 07:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,807	If I can save $15,000, I will deal with a little (and I do know from experience that it is a very little ) lag. $20,000 for 90 WHP is WAY to rich for my blood. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

01-11-2007, 11:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
allmotor13 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11	Allmotor is the way togo. I love the way a N/A motor sounds peeking at 9,000 up to 12,000rpm. like i say hondas should stay allmotor. plus you can build a N/A S2000 to beat up on turbo cars going down hill at the mountain roads

01-12-2007, 12:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ChIcAgOLaND Posts: 37	wHaTs the most POWER you can get out of N/A S2000.......ivE Seen 291whp i think is was the ASM s2000

01-12-2007, 06:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
allmotor13 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11	its ture you will spend quite a bit more for a N/A set up, but you will have instant power and no turbo/s.c. lag. and the reliability is much better on a N/A motor. and i've seen quite a few N/A S2000 in the 320whp range

01-12-2007, 09:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,433	Alodda talk about redline. Redline's more braggin' rights'n anything else. Bench-racin' fodder. It's the power what gets 'er done. N' I'm with Go, 15 thou's a wee bit too rich for my blood. From what I've read there're way more cost effective ways to get 90 r' so RWH, if that's your goal. I'm a naturally aspirated fan, but if I flat-out hadda have that kind'a power increase I'd opt for forced induction. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

01-13-2007, 12:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ChIcAgOLaND Posts: 37	how much power can a supercharger produce? with beefed up internals and everything else

01-13-2007, 10:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,178	3000++++++++ hp............ But on our block who knows

01-13-2007, 12:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Scott Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 249	i think it gets to a point where you have to spend so much money to get reliable N/A power, that it's not worth it. Example, someone said ASM spent $20,000 to get a 291hp N/A S2000. For $5000, you can have a nice turbo setup. For another $5k, you could build the engine so that it won't pop. So, you've spent half as much money and have easily twice as much power and just as much reliability. __________________ 1966 Ford Mustang 2003 Land Rover Freelander SOLD: 2002 Honda S2000 - Spa Yellow

01-17-2007, 06:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
DMC_S2000 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 35	I would prefer N/A...because I like the idea of having a 300HP N/A small engine without usage of forced induction....not like evo's and impreza's...they're like cheaters using forced induction

01-17-2007, 08:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
..:cOrNerIng ArTisT::::.. Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ChIcAgOLaND Posts: 37	i just like the idea of power but if you want lots of f/i is the way to go..............Now if i just wanted a car to have fun and do a little rippin around i would go n/A

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