How should release the ponies?

commi furious · 01-23-2007, 10:22 AM

I knnow at the crank im putting out 240 but i wanted to get that at the wheels. I dont think exhaust and headers and all that will be as afective unless i upfgrade tranny first. I could be wrong. want some insight. its going to be used on the track so no supercharging.thanks

gomarlins3 · 01-23-2007, 12:11 PM

If you are not going with boost, the 240 WHP will be difficult and EXPENSIVE!! It will take the right combination of I/H/TP/E, AEM EMS, ITB would help instead if just an intake, possibly cams if you can find ones that actually work, some head work and possibly the bottom end work as well. Even with all of that, it will be tough to get 240 WHP.

Boost is easier and less expensive, but you said that wasn't an option.

s2000isu · 01-23-2007, 01:31 PM

a guy in my area pulled off 222 rwhp. he had aem v2 intake dc header no cat and i forget what kinda exhaust. With that setup he dynoed 210 he then through on a neo and had it tuned and got 222 hp. I thought that was amazing. I dunno why people expect such big hp gains out of a car that already had the record for most hp per liter in a na car

Java Junky · 01-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Without forced induction it is actually possible, but takin' the drive wheels from where they're presently located n' hookin' 'em directly to the rear of the crank is probably gonna involve alodda tin-knockin' n' will likely take away from the car's ability to be used as a means of transportation . . . well . . aimable transportation anyway.
'Provided the track is akin' to a large Wal-Mart parkin' lot it should be fun . . kind'a be like a demon tilt-a-whirl . . on steroids.
Be well.
Java

bjurasz · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

I'm confused why you think it won't be affective until you upgrade the tranny first. I can understand if you meant you might break the tranny. But otherwise I can't see how headers and intake would be less effective until you upgrade a tranny.

That aside, what is it about supercharging that has you concerned with respect to track days? It is not uncommon to see supercharged engines on tracks. Nitrous is a different story and is about useless on a road course.

s2000isu · 01-23-2007, 03:08 PM

I agree with the trans thing. I just think he didnt know if the trans would handle an extra 40 horse?

commi furious · 01-23-2007, 04:02 PM

i just dont want to compete with other cars in the supercharged range. i might have to tho. illl probably race a seasopn stock and then go supercharged after i have a little experience. you guys are right on abpout what you guys said. thanks alot. im not ecpecting insane power gains going n/a. i just want dependability.

DarkShade9 · 01-27-2007, 05:35 PM

I would say dependability is keeping it simple -- I/H/E and a tune. From what I have read about these cars, they aren't the biggest responders to mods.

S2Killa · 01-29-2007, 02:23 PM

I plan on keeping it simple at least for now since it is my daily driver. I plan on I/E/H. Don't expect any big power gains but expect a least some difference and a better sound obviously.

S2Killa · 01-29-2007, 02:26 PM

Obiviously the fewer mods you do the more dependable it will be. That's the same with any car. That's the main reason why I'm keeping it simple. I don't have the money to pay for any expensive repairs.

01-23-2007, 10:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
commi furious Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5	How should release the ponies? I knnow at the crank im putting out 240 but i wanted to get that at the wheels. I dont think exhaust and headers and all that will be as afective unless i upfgrade tranny first. I could be wrong. want some insight. its going to be used on the track so no supercharging.thanks

01-23-2007, 12:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,226	If you are not going with boost, the 240 WHP will be difficult and EXPENSIVE!! It will take the right combination of I/H/TP/E, AEM EMS, ITB would help instead if just an intake, possibly cams if you can find ones that actually work, some head work and possibly the bottom end work as well. Even with all of that, it will be tough to get 240 WHP. Boost is easier and less expensive, but you said that wasn't an option. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

01-23-2007, 01:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Without forced induction it is actually possible, but takin' the drive wheels from where they're presently located n' hookin' 'em directly to the rear of the crank is probably gonna involve alodda tin-knockin' n' will likely take away from the car's ability to be used as a means of transportation . . . well . . aimable transportation anyway. 'Provided the track is akin' to a large Wal-Mart parkin' lot it should be fun . . kind'a be like a demon tilt-a-whirl . . on steroids. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

01-23-2007, 04:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
commi furious Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5	yeah ur right i just dont want to compete with other cars in the supercharged range. i might have to tho. illl probably race a seasopn stock and then go supercharged after i have a little experience. you guys are right on abpout what you guys said. thanks alot. im not ecpecting insane power gains going n/a. i just want dependability.

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01-23-2007, 01:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	a guy in my area pulled off 222 rwhp. he had aem v2 intake dc header no cat and i forget what kinda exhaust. With that setup he dynoed 210 he then through on a neo and had it tuned and got 222 hp. I thought that was amazing. I dunno why people expect such big hp gains out of a car that already had the record for most hp per liter in a na car

01-23-2007, 02:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
bjurasz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	I'm confused why you think it won't be affective until you upgrade the tranny first. I can understand if you meant you might break the tranny. But otherwise I can't see how headers and intake would be less effective until you upgrade a tranny. That aside, what is it about supercharging that has you concerned with respect to track days? It is not uncommon to see supercharged engines on tracks. Nitrous is a different story and is about useless on a road course.

01-23-2007, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	I agree with the trans thing. I just think he didnt know if the trans would handle an extra 40 horse?

01-27-2007, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
DarkShade9 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 82	I would say dependability is keeping it simple -- I/H/E and a tune. From what I have read about these cars, they aren't the biggest responders to mods.

01-29-2007, 02:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
S2Killa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 23	I plan on keeping it simple at least for now since it is my daily driver. I plan on I/E/H. Don't expect any big power gains but expect a least some difference and a better sound obviously.

01-29-2007, 02:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
S2Killa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 23	Obiviously the fewer mods you do the more dependable it will be. That's the same with any car. That's the main reason why I'm keeping it simple. I don't have the money to pay for any expensive repairs.

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