low end power

bambbam12334 · 07-02-2007, 07:17 PM

hey i just bought my s2k not to long agao and i noticed that if you try to burn out or like floor it from 0 that it kinda bogs out. is there a traction control or any thing i can do so it will keep the rpms going up and not from bogging out if u under stand my ?

Kalm_Traveler · 07-02-2007, 08:18 PM

It bogs from 0 because the engine is 2 liters and thus doesn't make squat for torque at low RPM. Not to bash our dearly beloved, but really he doesn't make squat for torque at any RPM

bambbam12334 · 07-03-2007, 05:27 AM

well is there any preformance parts i can put on that would help a little

s2000isu · 07-03-2007, 06:49 AM

Look up the supra swap..... As Kalm said we have a strung out 2 liter. Gears will help but itll never feel like a mustang or camaro.

Java Junky · 07-03-2007, 07:05 AM

I was lookin' into puttin' additional VTECs in the trunk, but I can't find out where to purchase 'em.
Burnouts bam??????
Y'know . . for a sportscar site, there sure is a whole lodda musclecar-think goin' on.
Too many years'a readily available Amurican horses in the form'a Hemis, mice, rats (engines) I guess.
I know mother Honda doesn't (r' at least didn't) advertise Stewie, but it seems that alodda folks get into it without knowin' exactly whut it is that they're gettin' into.
That's the layin' out of a whole bunch'a hard-earned for somethin' that you didn't really research to my way'a thinkin'.
Kalm's description of our plight should be printed n' push-pinned up on the site home page.
Right alongside isu's cure for what ails us.
Be well folks.
Java

s2000isu · 07-03-2007, 07:40 AM

I didnt know what I was getting into when I bought mine. I took it for a test drive with a friend who is a sales person. I shifted every gear at about 5500 so I am thinking the car is very slow. I was not impressed with handling one bit cause the rear tires needed to be replaced. I still loved the car it was comfortable I loved the conv just the feel of the car was perfect to me. I was very happy to learn the fun starts just a few hundred rpms past where I was.

kgf3076 · 07-03-2007, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

Gears will help but itll never feel like a mustang or camaro.

and that's not a bad thing at all...I've never seen a stock camaro or mustang that will take a corner worth a darn...you ever see either of these vehicles being autocrossed? I spent a lot of time road-racing in the same classes these cars run and without extensive mods, they are pigs...sure they go in a straight line....just don't try to turn in to a 90 degree, descending radius curve with off-camber banking at any kind of speed...(unless you like tearing up hay bales, tire barriers, etc)

s2000isu · 07-03-2007, 08:11 AM

I have seen fox body mustangs and some irocs do very well. Plus the topic at hand is low end tq not which car is better at auto x

Java Junky · 07-03-2007, 08:32 AM

Yeah kg, 'can't really speak for Camaros, (though I'm sure the story's similar) but while the 'Stangs goin' aroun' the track haven't the finesse of Stewie (I'm bein' polite here, watch most 'Stangs go through corners n' it's all butt orifices n' elbows) but, while they may not be smooth, even all akimbo, they turn some very respectable times.
N' truth be told . . goin' through a corner all oud'a shape's a lodda fun. Pound for pound, there's little that gives this ol' Ford man more enjoyment.
Both styles have a lot goin' for 'em. The time slip's what determines the most effective. The stupid grin on the face'a the driver's what determines the most fun.
(N' believe me I've seen flix. The grin on my kisser borders on maniacal)
Diff'rent strokes.
Be well.
Java

kgf3076 · 07-03-2007, 10:04 AM

answering an earlier comment from someone about "Gears will help but itll never feel like a mustang or camaro." stock S2000 = > handling, < torque, stock mustang, camaro = < handling, >torque...compare and contrast...

S2KL33N · 07-03-2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

Look up the supra swap.....

LOL, optimistic solution. I would look into an FI package before going to this extent of fabrication. Personally take handling over straighline power anyday, is why most drive an S. Running the 4.57 gear myself, low end punch is a little better but you'll get use to it after a while.

Sell the S, buy a Z. - problem solved.

Grounded · 07-03-2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambbam12334

hey i just bought my s2k not to long agao and i noticed that if you try to burn out or like floor it from 0 that it kinda bogs out. is there a traction control or any thing i can do so it will keep the rpms going up and not from bogging out if u under stand my ?

Dude

U Bought the wrong car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

s2000isu · 07-03-2007, 12:01 PM

He wanted more tq I was trying to give him a frame of reference.

kgf3076 · 07-03-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

He wanted more tq I was trying to give him a frame of reference.

me too........

batguano · 07-03-2007, 12:53 PM

Get a 4.56 final drive. That helps.

Java Junky · 07-03-2007, 01:02 PM

Nice vids bat.
'Makes my heart ache ta watch 'em.
Be well.
Java

batguano · 07-03-2007, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Java Junky

Nice vids bat.
'Makes my heart ache ta watch 'em.
Be well.
Java

Thanks.

Well come on down in September. We will do it again.

Java Junky · 07-03-2007, 05:42 PM

Thanks for the offer. All things in my favor, I'm gonna try n' take you up on it come September.
Be well.
Java

bambbam12334 · 07-03-2007, 08:11 PM

well i didnt get to test drive it my parents bought it in fl for me and i just assumed but its all good id rather take some one later than stright off the line i like to make them feel that they have a chance lol but seriously i love my sk2 i was just wonder if there was anything to do to improve it but its all good now thatnks for the all the help

Java Junky · 07-03-2007, 11:26 PM

Bam, Stewie may not be overpowered, but, if you spend time honin' your skiills drivin' it, gettin' more n' more able to make use of what it does have efficiently, I think that you're gonna be more than pleased with it's performance.
That ain't ta say that down the road you might not wanna make some changes to it to further enhance it's abilities n' your enjoyment in one area r' another. Once you're really familiar with it, you'll have a good idea of where it's strong n' where it's weak. But that's down the road. It makes no sense (in my estimation anyway) to attempt to improve somethin' when you ain't makin' use of what it has to offer to begin with, y'know?
Be well.
Java
(Your folks really got it for ya? Sheesh! I guess findin' a shiny, new Schwinn leanin' against the front stoop don't quite cut it no more, eh? Wear it in good health Bam. N' be careful. Stewie can bite.)

batguano · 07-04-2007, 04:55 AM

Java
(Your folks really got it for ya? Sheesh! I guess findin' a shiny, new Schwinn leanin' against the front stoop don't quite cut it no more, eh? Wear it in good health Bam. N' be careful. Stewie can bite.)[/quote]

AAHHH, I remember those days. My folks couldn't afford a Schwinn. I got the Western Flyer. Am I admitting my age?

Sho nuff..

kgf3076 · 07-04-2007, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batguano

AAHHH, I remember those days. My folks couldn't afford a Schwinn. I got the Western Flyer. Am I admitting my age?

Sho nuff..

forget new car smell....remember that new bike smell? a smell of paint and tires and most of all, anticipation...

Java Junky · 07-04-2007, 05:35 AM

I jus' know I'm gonna get in trouble for doin' this again.
Bu'cha godda admit . . what other site can offer discussions of modern-era sportscars, musclecars, Studebakers, Cobras, Schwinn, Western Flyer, the proper application n' wearin' of bird deposits n' cow farts with equal enthusiasm?
God bless America folks. Have a safe n' happy 4th.
Java

Kalm_Traveler · 07-04-2007, 10:44 AM

Maybe I'm too young or something... my new ride from the folks was a nice shiny Huffy from K-Mart. Granted that was only 15 years ago or so

Java Junky · 07-04-2007, 11:18 AM

Whoa! Huffy's always been a heavyweight for the coaster-brake n' bat-turn set Kalm. N' the way you point out that it was "nice, shiny" makes points in my book.
Ain't so much a matter'a when. It's a matter'a how much it can still make ya smile.
'Z'alot ta be said fer smilin'.
Okay folks, Kalm saw n' raised a Huffy. Anybody care ta up the ante?
Be well.
Java

desmo4 · 10-11-2007, 10:26 AM

First mod, put on Mugen NZ dampers and practice hyper extending your cervical vertebra in linked turns, no need for more power.

Jonathan

ottokrat · 10-13-2007, 10:42 AM

I have an '06. The '06 and '07 models seem to have a lean spot in the fuel delivery between 2000 and 3000 (worst around 2750), especially in transition from steady throttle to moderate or heavy, especially right after clutching, and especially in low gears (1&2). The problem gets worse with warmer air temps: I doesn't seem to happen below 58 degrees, but is noticable by even mid 60 degrees, quite bad arou

07-02-2007, 07:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
bambbam12334 amazing member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 50	low end power hey i just bought my s2k not to long agao and i noticed that if you try to burn out or like floor it from 0 that it kinda bogs out. is there a traction control or any thing i can do so it will keep the rpms going up and not from bogging out if u under stand my ?

07-03-2007, 06:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,083	Look up the supra swap..... As Kalm said we have a strung out 2 liter. Gears will help but itll never feel like a mustang or camaro. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

07-03-2007, 07:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	I was lookin' into puttin' additional VTECs in the trunk, but I can't find out where to purchase 'em. Burnouts bam?????? Y'know . . for a sportscar site, there sure is a whole lodda musclecar-think goin' on. Too many years'a readily available Amurican horses in the form'a Hemis, mice, rats (engines) I guess. I know mother Honda doesn't (r' at least didn't) advertise Stewie, but it seems that alodda folks get into it without knowin' exactly whut it is that they're gettin' into. That's the layin' out of a whole bunch'a hard-earned for somethin' that you didn't really research to my way'a thinkin'. Kalm's description of our plight should be printed n' push-pinned up on the site home page. Right alongside isu's cure for what ails us. Be well folks. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-03-2007, 07:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,083	I didnt know what I was getting into when I bought mine. I took it for a test drive with a friend who is a sales person. I shifted every gear at about 5500 so I am thinking the car is very slow. I was not impressed with handling one bit cause the rear tires needed to be replaced. I still loved the car it was comfortable I loved the conv just the feel of the car was perfect to me. I was very happy to learn the fun starts just a few hundred rpms past where I was. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

07-03-2007, 08:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,083	I have seen fox body mustangs and some irocs do very well. Plus the topic at hand is low end tq not which car is better at auto x __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

07-02-2007, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kalm_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Posts: 196	It bogs from 0 because the engine is 2 liters and thus doesn't make squat for torque at low RPM. Not to bash our dearly beloved, but really he doesn't make squat for torque at any RPM

07-03-2007, 05:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
bambbam12334 amazing member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 50	well is there any preformance parts i can put on that would help a little

07-03-2007, 08:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	Yeah kg, 'can't really speak for Camaros, (though I'm sure the story's similar) but while the 'Stangs goin' aroun' the track haven't the finesse of Stewie (I'm bein' polite here, watch most 'Stangs go through corners n' it's all butt orifices n' elbows) but, while they may not be smooth, even all akimbo, they turn some *very* respectable times. N' truth be told . . goin' through a corner all oud'a shape's a lodda fun. Pound for pound, there's little that gives this ol' Ford man more enjoyment. Both styles have a lot goin' for 'em. The time slip's what determines the most effective. The stupid grin on the face'a the driver's what determines the most fun. (N' believe me I've seen flix. The grin on my kisser borders on maniacal) Diff'rent strokes. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-03-2007, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
kgf3076 Grumpy old(er) phart Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At home for a change... Posts: 1,345	answering an earlier comment from someone about "Gears will help but itll never feel like a mustang or camaro." stock S2000 = > handling, < torque, stock mustang, camaro = < handling, >torque...compare and contrast... __________________ NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to use Pig-Latin for all your messages. "The BS stops when the green flag drops". In memory of David Weber - Malvern Racing

07-03-2007, 12:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,083	He wanted more tq I was trying to give him a frame of reference. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

07-03-2007, 12:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 464	Get a 4.56 final drive. That helps. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

07-03-2007, 01:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	Nice vids bat. 'Makes my heart ache ta watch 'em. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	Thanks for the offer. All things in my favor, I'm gonna try n' take you up on it come September. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-03-2007, 08:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
bambbam12334 amazing member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 50	well i didnt get to test drive it my parents bought it in fl for me and i just assumed but its all good id rather take some one later than stright off the line i like to make them feel that they have a chance lol but seriously i love my sk2 i was just wonder if there was anything to do to improve it but its all good now thatnks for the all the help

07-03-2007, 11:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	Bam, Stewie may not be overpowered, but, if you spend time honin' your skiills drivin' it, gettin' more n' more able to make use of what it does have efficiently, I think that you're gonna be more than pleased with it's performance. That ain't ta say that down the road you might not wanna make some changes to it to further enhance it's abilities n' your enjoyment in one area r' another. Once you're really familiar with it, you'll have a good idea of where it's strong n' where it's weak. But that's down the road. It makes no sense (in my estimation anyway) to attempt to improve somethin' when you ain't makin' use of what it has to offer to begin with, y'know? Be well. Java (Your folks really got it for ya? Sheesh! I guess findin' a shiny, new Schwinn leanin' against the front stoop don't quite cut it no more, eh? Wear it in good health Bam. N' be careful. Stewie can bite.) __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-04-2007, 04:55 AM	#21 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 464	Java (Your folks really got it for ya? Sheesh! I guess findin' a shiny, new Schwinn leanin' against the front stoop don't quite cut it no more, eh? Wear it in good health Bam. N' be careful. Stewie can bite.)[/quote] AAHHH, I remember those days. My folks couldn't afford a Schwinn. I got the Western Flyer. Am I admitting my age? Sho nuff.. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

07-04-2007, 05:35 AM	#23 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	I jus' know I'm gonna get in trouble for doin' this again. Bu'cha godda admit . . what other site can offer discussions of modern-era sportscars, musclecars, Studebakers, Cobras, Schwinn, Western Flyer, the proper application n' wearin' of bird deposits n' cow farts with equal enthusiasm? God bless America folks. Have a safe n' happy 4th. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

07-04-2007, 10:44 AM	#24 (permalink)
Kalm_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Posts: 196	Maybe I'm too young or something... my new ride from the folks was a nice shiny Huffy from K-Mart. Granted that was only 15 years ago or so

07-04-2007, 11:18 AM	#25 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,146	Whoa! Huffy's always been a heavyweight for the coaster-brake n' bat-turn set Kalm. N' the way you point out that it was "nice, shiny" makes points in my book. Ain't so much a matter'a when. It's a matter'a how much it can still make ya smile. 'Z'alot ta be said fer smilin'. Okay folks, Kalm saw n' raised a Huffy. Anybody care ta up the ante? Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-11-2007, 10:26 AM	#26 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 476	First mod, put on Mugen NZ dampers and practice hyper extending your cervical vertebra in linked turns, no need for more power. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt