K & N air intake vs stock intake

gil1967 · 09-27-2007, 04:38 PM

Is there any difference between leaving the stock air box open with a K & N air filter vs the FPK system? Please give me your thoughts.

bobby2002S2K · 09-28-2007, 12:26 PM

Not really i dont think, they both suck in hot air that most people want to avoid.

Vezna31 · 09-28-2007, 06:27 PM

I disagree. I noticed a lot more throttle response through the power band. Also, 3 previous times at Laguna Seca, I hit a consistent 101-103 on the front straight. With the FIPK, I hit 108 consistently, and it was under the same conditions as the previous time. Plus, my gas mileage has gone up 3-5 mpg. I consistently did 20-23 mpg, now doing 25-28 mpg. I thought it turned out to be money well spent.

wasabiman · 09-28-2007, 09:22 PM

i'm sold... where's a good place to order one? I see you can order them at autozone and pepboys.

Vezna31 · 09-28-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasabiman

i'm sold... where's a good place to order one? I see you can order them at autozone and pepboys.

PM sent.

gil1967 · 09-29-2007, 11:51 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I will probably get the FPK.

bobby2002S2K · 09-30-2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vezna31

I disagree. I noticed a lot more throttle response through the power band. Also, 3 previous times at Laguna Seca, I hit a consistent 101-103 on the front straight. With the FIPK, I hit 108 consistently, and it was under the same conditions as the previous time. Plus, my gas mileage has gone up 3-5 mpg. I consistently did 20-23 mpg, now doing 25-28 mpg. I thought it turned out to be money well spent.

Just to be clear, i have no doubt that the K&N works i was just refering to taken the top cover off the stock box.

wasabiman · 09-30-2007, 02:26 PM

went on a drive with veszna on saturday, and his car did seem to have a little more low end pull than the rest of us who were all stock. plus, it sounded a lot cooler, not to mention it looks nice in the engine bay. It sits in the very front passenger side corner and looks to get the most "cool" air possible and it has a plastic piece that looks like a heat shield. We talked about it a little at breakfast, and he did say you can notice some heat soak after a while. general consensus tho, was don't pull the top cover off the stock airbox. If you look inside the stock airbox, there's a partition in there. I'm not quite sure what purpose this serves, but I was thinking about cutting it out. "Hell on wheels" did this and even drilled some holes in the side of the airbox closest to the passenger side on the bottom. Right behind the passenger side headlight, there's a hole, that looks to direct some more outside air into the engine bay and could possibly add more cool air to the airbox, if those holes are drilled in the side. Not sure if it adds any efficiency, but it sounds a little throatier.

wasabiman · 09-30-2007, 02:37 PM

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pr...del_text=s2000
just found it at this website for 243.00 and shipping is free.

wasabiman · 09-30-2007, 02:51 PM

just ordered it. and they charged me 17 bucks for tax, but gave a 10 dollar discount, with free shipping, I paid 250.00.

MattG · 10-01-2007, 07:01 PM

Wasabiman- I have seen other people route a flexible plastic pipe from the fender hole into the airbox. This means that it was still not drawing any hot air from inside the engine bay.

Vezna31 · 10-01-2007, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby2002S2K

Just to be clear, i have no doubt that the K&N works i was just refering to taken the top cover off the stock box.

Yes, taking the cover off the stock box will do nothing but add some noise and probably become a vacuum for hot air, decreasing power.

philiam · 10-01-2007, 10:15 PM

According to a filter evaluation I read, the K&N does allow more air to pass. But, it also doesn't filter as well. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you change oil more often.

Blurrr... · 10-02-2007, 08:57 AM

I was looking to purchase a K&N air filter for my car but I wasnt sure about back pressure. I am most likely a bit over-concerned but I am really wary of doing anything that will affect or offset the dialed in specific tolerances from factory.

My fear is that it will eventually create undue stress to the engine. Ive heard that when using a cold air intake to be truly careful of using low grade (cheaper) intakes because they will destroy an engine over time. Causing you to have ticking in the engine and burning up head-gaskets.

Actually makes your engine run hotter when you have a cheaper setup not dialed in properly I believe.

What is a really good cold air intake. That will not cause any of these problems or issues?

Thanks

Blurrrrrrr....

Vezna31 · 10-02-2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philiam

According to a filter evaluation I read, the K&N does allow more air to pass. But, it also doesn't filter as well. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you change oil more often.

You mean change the air filter, right??

philiam · 10-02-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vezna31

You mean change the air filter, right??

No, I believe the K&N filter is re usable. It must be cleaned and oiled
periodically. However, it is said to be less efficient at blocking smaller
particles of dust than the good pleated paper filters. That is why the
engines run a little better with the K&N. It's a trade off. That's why your oil may get a little dirtier, faster.

frontline762 · 10-08-2007, 02:50 AM

Just get a snorkle and leave everything else stock people ...jeez..Dont you trust honda engineers yet? I think they put a little bit more effort into this motor than any of us "geniuses" in here.lol

s2000isu · 10-08-2007, 04:27 AM

Honda isnt perfect no matter what the internet told you little boy. Since modding a car is so bad we should race. I just have a single tip exhaust CAUSE ITS MUCH LIGHTER THEN STOCK and a few small things under the hood. Itd be fun. You know me being a ricer and all vs you.

desmo4 · 10-08-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurrr...

I was looking to purchase a K&N air filter for my car but I wasnt sure about back pressure. I am most likely a bit over-concerned but I am really wary of doing anything that will affect or offset the dialed in specific tolerances from factory.

My fear is that it will eventually create undue stress to the engine. Ive heard that when using a cold air intake to be truly careful of using low grade (cheaper) intakes because they will destroy an engine over time. Causing you to have ticking in the engine and burning up head-gaskets.

Actually makes your engine run hotter when you have a cheaper setup not dialed in properly I believe.

Go to S2KCA' s site and read medicalstudent's write up on Mugen. Mugen was started by one of Honda's sons, it's very informative.

Jonathan

What is a really good cold air intake. That will not cause any of these problems or issues?

Thanks

Blurrrrrrr....

frontline762 · 10-11-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

Honda isnt perfect no matter what the internet told you little boy. Since modding a car is so bad we should race. I just have a single tip exhaust CAUSE ITS MUCH LIGHTER THEN STOCK and a few small things under the hood. Itd be fun. You know me being a ricer and all vs you.

We should...where do you stay?

Vezna31 · 10-11-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frontline762

We should...where do you stay?

I want video...

frontline762 · 10-11-2007, 07:17 PM

Absolutely

wasabiman · 10-11-2007, 07:59 PM

dang frontline, of course honda engineers these cars to perfection, but if some of us want to open up the intake a little to get more performance what's the big deal? I am a believer in the k&n fipk since I've installed it, vinny was right about a little smoother throttle response and the gas mileage has gone up by a couple miles. Am I really hurting motor? I doubt it. Do I drive like a maniac and try to race every fool with a fart can? No... Is it fun to personalize your ride and hear the motor scream while carving the side of a mountain? Yes I think so. My car will most likely stay mostly stock with the exception of some lighter rims, but that's my decision isn't it? I'm just curious as to why you think you can down others and sit up on your high horse, and then say things like, "jeez i'm nice now." Please dude, it's getting old.

s2000isu · 10-13-2007, 09:30 AM

Well I am from pa so we are kinda far. We could always put up slips though see whos honda is more perfect. I will be going next week if weather holds.

frontline762 · 10-13-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasabiman

I'm just curious as to why you think you can down others and sit up on your high horse, and then say things like, "jeez i'm nice now." Please dude, it's getting old.

Just Keyshia Cole it man....Let It Go

philiam · 10-19-2007, 12:24 AM

There is a lot of discussion regarding air filters such as K&N, Amsoil etc. For those that want to learn a little more, here is an in depth article.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Jbeni96 · 10-31-2007, 10:49 PM

09-27-2007, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
gil1967 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7	K & N air intake vs stock intake Is there any difference between leaving the stock air box open with a K & N air filter vs the FPK system? Please give me your thoughts.

09-28-2007, 12:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
bobby2002S2K Wisdom begins in wonder. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lorton,VA Posts: 528	Not really i dont think, they both suck in hot air that most people want to avoid. __________________ I still cant get my foot off the floor and its been over a 2yrs now

09-28-2007, 06:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vezna31 Resident Track Whore :) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 1,285	I disagree. I noticed a lot more throttle response through the power band. Also, 3 previous times at Laguna Seca, I hit a consistent 101-103 on the front straight. With the FIPK, I hit 108 consistently, and it was under the same conditions as the previous time. Plus, my gas mileage has gone up 3-5 mpg. I consistently did 20-23 mpg, now doing 25-28 mpg. I thought it turned out to be money well spent. __________________ Vezna Financial Services - For mortgages, accounting and taxes, and phone service needs. http://www.vezna.com San Diego Car Club - http://www.sdcarclub.com

10-01-2007, 10:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,637	According to a filter evaluation I read, the K&N does allow more air to pass. But, it also doesn't filter as well. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you change oil more often. __________________

10-08-2007, 04:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,172	Honda isnt perfect no matter what the internet told you little boy. Since modding a car is so bad we should race. I just have a single tip exhaust CAUSE ITS MUCH LIGHTER THEN STOCK and a few small things under the hood. Itd be fun. You know me being a ricer and all vs you. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

09-28-2007, 09:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
wasabiman Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO, SOUTHBAY Posts: 95	i'm sold... where's a good place to order one? I see you can order them at autozone and pepboys.

09-29-2007, 11:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
gil1967 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7	Thanks for all the replies. I will probably get the FPK.

09-30-2007, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
wasabiman Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO, SOUTHBAY Posts: 95	went on a drive with veszna on saturday, and his car did seem to have a little more low end pull than the rest of us who were all stock. plus, it sounded a lot cooler, not to mention it looks nice in the engine bay. It sits in the very front passenger side corner and looks to get the most "cool" air possible and it has a plastic piece that looks like a heat shield. We talked about it a little at breakfast, and he did say you can notice some heat soak after a while. general consensus tho, was don't pull the top cover off the stock airbox. If you look inside the stock airbox, there's a partition in there. I'm not quite sure what purpose this serves, but I was thinking about cutting it out. "Hell on wheels" did this and even drilled some holes in the side of the airbox closest to the passenger side on the bottom. Right behind the passenger side headlight, there's a hole, that looks to direct some more outside air into the engine bay and could possibly add more cool air to the airbox, if those holes are drilled in the side. Not sure if it adds any efficiency, but it sounds a little throatier.

09-30-2007, 02:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
wasabiman Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO, SOUTHBAY Posts: 95	http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pr...del_text=s2000 just found it at this website for 243.00 and shipping is free.

09-30-2007, 02:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
wasabiman Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO, SOUTHBAY Posts: 95	just ordered it. and they charged me 17 bucks for tax, but gave a 10 dollar discount, with free shipping, I paid 250.00.

10-01-2007, 07:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
MattG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 361	Wasabiman- I have seen other people route a flexible plastic pipe from the fender hole into the airbox. This means that it was still not drawing any hot air from inside the engine bay.

10-02-2007, 08:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blurrr... Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 17	I was looking to purchase a K&N air filter for my car but I wasnt sure about back pressure. I am most likely a bit over-concerned but I am really wary of doing anything that will affect or offset the dialed in specific tolerances from factory. My fear is that it will eventually create undue stress to the engine. Ive heard that when using a cold air intake to be truly careful of using low grade (cheaper) intakes because they will destroy an engine over time. Causing you to have ticking in the engine and burning up head-gaskets. Actually makes your engine run hotter when you have a cheaper setup not dialed in properly I believe. What is a really good cold air intake. That will not cause any of these problems or issues? Thanks Blurrrrrrr....

10-08-2007, 02:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
frontline762 HondaOwnerSinceForEver Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Currently in Columbus, GA Posts: 49	Just get a snorkle and leave everything else stock people ...jeez..Dont you trust honda engineers yet? I think they put a little bit more effort into this motor than any of us "geniuses" in here.lol

10-11-2007, 07:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
frontline762 HondaOwnerSinceForEver Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Currently in Columbus, GA Posts: 49	Absolutely __________________ _____________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

10-11-2007, 07:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
wasabiman Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO, SOUTHBAY Posts: 95	dang frontline, of course honda engineers these cars to perfection, but if some of us want to open up the intake a little to get more performance what's the big deal? I am a believer in the k&n fipk since I've installed it, vinny was right about a little smoother throttle response and the gas mileage has gone up by a couple miles. Am I really hurting motor? I doubt it. Do I drive like a maniac and try to race every fool with a fart can? No... Is it fun to personalize your ride and hear the motor scream while carving the side of a mountain? Yes I think so. My car will most likely stay mostly stock with the exception of some lighter rims, but that's my decision isn't it? I'm just curious as to why you think you can down others and sit up on your high horse, and then say things like, "jeez i'm nice now." Please dude, it's getting old.

10-13-2007, 09:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,172	Well I am from pa so we are kinda far. We could always put up slips though see whos honda is more perfect. I will be going next week if weather holds. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

10-19-2007, 12:24 AM	#26 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,637	There is a lot of discussion regarding air filters such as K&N, Amsoil etc. For those that want to learn a little more, here is an in depth article. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm __________________

10-31-2007, 10:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
Jbeni96 Proud Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 38	Phil