what kind of clutch do u have?

[sharkbite]

i have had my s2k for a few months now and its about time to start putting some bolt-on on her. the first thing im going to do is get a nice clutch and light fly wheel, im thinking about 10-16lbs wheel. i have read anything lighter than that is just to much, so i have been looking around at all the different kinds out there and i can tell the good from the bad but i am wanting to know what u guys have in urs and if its working out for u. i have an 05 s2k with 35k on it and everytime i try to do a burn out off the line a little all i can smell is the clutch, no tire. so it sounds like to me that the guy who had the car before me ran the hell out of it and burnt the clutch up. well any input on ur clutch would be great,
thanks, jason

[s2000isu]

look into the cdv before you replace the clutch.

[sharkbite]

yep thats it, didnt know that there was one on the car. sounds like i am just going to have to deal with it cause i dont really want to put a new rear end on my car after i remove the cdv. its there for a reason, sounds like honda needs to come out with a better built rear end, thanks

[s2000isu]

the rear isnt as bad as people make it out to be. Show of hands guys how many of you have destroyed your rear. (in your car keep your personal life to yourself) I am not saying they are bullet proof but I dont think launching every now and then will ensure a quick destruction.

[sharkbite]

i can understand that here and there might be ok but still honda put that on for a reason. i bet the more times u do it the greater the chance u will brake something, and the diff, trans and what not will not last as long as someone who didnt remove cdv.

[grocerystore_ninja]

quick question what is cdv

[s2000isu]

clutch delay valve. I just dont get why people think the irs in the s2000 is so bad. You launch a cobra hard and you can grenade those rears pretty easy too.

[sharkbite]

well yeah thats true but honda doesnt have a whole lot of experience in the rear end department, but still i would like to know how many other people have done this on thier s2k's and how long ago they have done it, would also like to know if when changing there diff fluid if they had any large frags on the mag plug, or any change in fluid color before and after.

[desmo4]

AP1's have no CDV and I had to change the LSD at 85000 miles. I didn't think that was too unreasonable.

Jonathan

[sharkbite]

85K? well thats not really the greatest miles out of that diff, u should have to replace the timing chain and ajust the valves before u should replace the diff i would say. what kind of cost did that set u back?

[desmo4]

Actually I put in a Mugen LSD at the time so what it cost was $500 to install plus parts. And I don't think that was unreasonable. There was nothing wrong with the ring pinion or bearings or case. The LSD just failed and I do a lot of spirited driving 85000 miles worth. Plus I check the valves every 20000 miles.

Jonathan

[Vezna31]

I just had an ACT clutch and lightweight flywheel installed at 109k. I love how it feels now.

[cbrguy7]

I had an act 6 puck with hd pressure plate, it went out so I just picked up a new act kit with hd pressure plate and street disk, act no longer includes the throwout bearing(aka release bearing)or the allignment tool, you now have to purchase these parts from your local dealer.

[s2000isu]

clutch kit that doesnt come with the tool or the bearing hmm sounds like a winner of a company. Every performance clutch ive ever purchased came with both.

[cbrguy7]

trust me it sucked

[kgf3076]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

clutch kit that doesnt come with the tool or the bearing hmm sounds like a winner of a company. Every performance clutch ive ever purchased came with both.

Sounds like this is the only clutch you've ever had to buy. Nobody includes the throw-out bearing or alignment tool for a clutch (unless you pay extra for it, and if you do, they should tell you it's extra). Standard clutch replacement is pressure plate, clutch assembly, throw-out bearing. Everything has a nice individual (high) price. No alignment tool is why somebody invented blown transmissions...you cut off the nose shaft and you have a nice alignment tool (or use a short piece of a broomstick in an emergency).

[s2000isu]

Haha ya let me go to the junkyard find one of the 755 s2000's they have at the local yard and hack off the shaft of a trans then mod it so I can put a new clutch in every 10 years............. Im not sarcastic I swear.

My first clutch? No sorry no clutches in the s2000. I have put 2 in the car I built a spec and a clutch specialties. All there full kits come with the bearing and the tool. I also know the clutch masters which is an awesome company comes with all that I believe my friend said his exedy clutch came with everything. Another friend put a clutch in his integra and the kit came wrapped up with everything.

Noone includes it unless you pay extra and if they do include it they should tell you. Hmm thats like buying a flat panel tv it coming with a wall mount and on the box it saying includes wall mount bracket but its a 20 dollar extra fee.

Here is what spec says.
"If you are looking for one of the best performing Honda S2000 clutch kit, consider SPEC Clutch. Quality, performance, and durability are what you would expect from SPEC Honda S2000 clutch kit. We offer FREE Ground shipping for your SPEC Honda S2000 clutch kit. All SPEC Honda S2000 racing clutch kits come with pressure plate, clutch disc, release bearing, and alignment tool."

http://www.car-stuff.com/exedyclutch.htm

http://www.clutchcityonline.com/spec/honda_s2000.htm

http://www.clutchmasters.com/ It also says all kits come with tool and bearing.

http://www.zoomperformance.com/mf_series.html and so on

[cbrguy7]

act used to come with the bearing and tool, but about a month and a half ago they stoped including it as far as I know its because honda now makes the only bearing for it, I guess before you could get some kind of non oem or something, I have no clue

[ArcaineS2k]

You can probably find the plastic alignment tool for like $10 or something. Or just borrow someone else's.

I just changed the clutch and flywheel in my Eclipse and so far they are both great. I chose the ACT Chromoly flywheel and the Fidanza 3.2 clutch kit. The reason I went with Fidanza for the clutch is because they rely on the material of the disc for holding power, not the pressure of the plate like ACT. So my pedal pressure is a bit more than stock, but I was able to get used to it within 2 minutes of driving.

Also, the release bearings that come with the kits are usually crap, and most OEM ones are much better; at least it was in my case.

I would say do tons more research on kits you like. It also helps to have a goal already in mind for what you plan to do to your car (s/c, turbo, more hp/tq, etc.), and then chose a clutch from there. Is this your daily driver? Something to keep in mind.....there's no need to get an extreme clutch if your not going to need it.

Hope this helps in any way possible

[makopolo]

The reason to remove the cdv is for harder launches?

[sharkbite]

yeah u can burn out from a stop if u take it off, but its on there for a reason i have heard that u will be rebuilding rear ends if u do. some people will say yes some people will say no, but i dont really need to do any burning out dont see the point.

[9k All The WAY]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

the rear isnt as bad as people make it out to be. Show of hands guys how many of you have destroyed your rear. (in your car keep your personal life to yourself) I am not saying they are bullet proof but I dont think launching every now and then will ensure a quick destruction.

I just grenaded my rear end so it is possible to blow up your diff.. You just gotta slip the clutch if you want a good fast take off without blowing your rear-end. So get a GOOD clutch.

[Almost Tactful]

I'd like to see any stock rear end stand up to constant 8,000-9,000RPM launches

[sharkbite]

yeah if u do it constant u would be up shit creek, i mean if u like rebuilding rear ends and trans every year or so then it would be great. i hear u can put a skyline rear end in the s2k, that would take it better.