Vtec question

Dr. Jimbo · 01-21-2008, 05:17 PM

I see Hondas (other than stewie) have vtec engines. Are they like our ap1's and ap2's? I never poked my head in one to see if the redline was at 9000 (or 8k for you ap2's). Just wonderin' what the difference is.
Thanks,
Jimbo

kgf3076 · 01-21-2008, 05:20 PM

check the specs and see where the max horsepower and torque fall..they may be VTEC but they're not the same engine as the S2k...Momma Honda loves to spread the wealth around.

icmhonda · 01-21-2008, 05:22 PM

yes, many of vtec, variable timing electronic lift control... the civic si and rsx type s, cars of this nature are like stewie, where you can feel the vtec engage at a certin rpm level(5800). but cars with not as aggressive lobes dont have the hard pull from there out. so, diffrent. not for power but also for good gas milage.....

gomarlins3 · 01-21-2008, 06:16 PM

Our first Honda (1994 VTEC Prelude) had it. None of the other Honda cars have as high of a red line though. I believe most of Honda's cars have it now.

Kalm_Traveler · 01-21-2008, 06:24 PM

These are the cars I can recall that had true power VTEC aside from the S2k:

92-96 Prelude VTEC (redlined around 7600rpm) 190hp 2.2L
97+ Prelude (same as 92-96 VTEC) 200hp 2.2L
94-95 del Sol VTEC (redlines at 7800rpm) 160hp 1.6L
99-00 Civic Si (same as 95-96 del Sol VTEC) 160hp 1.6L
02+ RSX Type-S (redlines around 8000) 200hp 2.0L
07ish Civic Si (same as RSX-S) 197hp 2.0L
92-93 Integra GS-R (redlines around 7800) 160hp 1.7L
94-01 Integra GS-R (same as 92-93) 170hp 1.8L
97-01 Integra Type R (redlines around 8000) 180hp 1.8L
91+ NSX (redlines around 7800) 270hp 3.0L or 290hp 3.2L

philiam · 01-21-2008, 06:44 PM

Rode in a new FIT today. Vtech and I think about 6500 red line.
Very impressive little car. Typically Honda, bigger inside than outside. How do they do it? Nicely finished and peppy with stick 5 spd.

bobby2002s2k. · 01-22-2008, 01:00 PM

Some Accords had DOHC vtec also. H23 I think.

Pablo · 01-22-2008, 01:26 PM

I've had a couple of Acura's and I know for sure that my current one a 2003 TL has a VTECH (says so big as day on the engine) and I think the others were too.

Best regards
Pablo

icmhonda · 01-22-2008, 04:38 PM

pablo, i just bought a 03 tl type s two weeks ago. sweet... 3.2 vtec

Pablo · 01-22-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icmhonda

pablo, i just bought a 03 tl type s two weeks ago. sweet... 3.2 vtec

Hey Congrats. The TL's are really nice cars. Very quick actually, and I bet your "S" type is even better. The handling is not up to Stewie standards but darn good for a sedan. The one I have now is my 3rd Acura. Damn I love mother's creations of both 2 and 4 wheeled variety.

One word or caution. Keep an eye on the tranny. The 03's had tranny issues. Mine died at 33,000 miles. It was replaced under warranty........thank goodness. I believe the dealer told me if I had to pay for it it would have been over 5K.

Have fun and best regards
Pablo

bobby2002s2k. · 01-22-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icmhonda

pablo, i just bought a 03 tl type s two weeks ago. sweet... 3.2 vtec

Those Tl type S are sweet, probably the only sedan I would ever own.

Kalm_Traveler · 01-23-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

I've had a couple of Acura's and I know for sure that my current one a 2003 TL has a VTECH (says so big as day on the engine) and I think the others were too.

Best regards
Pablo

pardon my asking, but after so many years of seeing an H tacked onto VTEC, I was thinkin about it today...

VTEC stands for Variable valve-Timing-and-lift Electronic Control. There are no H's in that at all, so where do so many people get the H from?

Especially an enthusiast such as yourself who has looked at his engine to notice the 4-letter abbreviation on the valve cover

icmhonda · 01-24-2008, 06:07 AM

pablo, bought the tL, and my technican said tranny issues in almost all the v6 powerplants (honda) . but after a good service, and drive we came to the conclusion that it was a good buy.. 60K miles... scarry 5gs.. now i am nervous. its for my girl to drive so hopefully she wont be as hard on it as i would........

Pablo · 01-24-2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalm_Traveler

pardon my asking, but after so many years of seeing an H tacked onto VTEC, I was thinkin about it today...

VTEC stands for Variable valve-Timing-and-lift Electronic Control. There are no H's in that at all, so where do so many people get the H from?

Especially an enthusiast such as yourself who has looked at his engine to notice the 4-letter abbreviation on the valve cover

Ahhh, just 'cauz I post on an enthusiast's site, does not mean I can SPELL! I suppose I could justify it is an error generated by the common usage "tech" as in "technology"........or maybe just cauz my damn spell check does not pick up the damn error. Picky, Picky, PICKY.....

Pablo · 01-24-2008, 07:14 AM

ICMH

FYI there may be one of those "secret" 100K factory warranty's on the tranny of the 03 TL. I hope you never have trouble, but you may want to check it out just in case.

Dr. Jimbo · 01-24-2008, 11:06 AM

Ahhh, back to vtec vs. vtech. Thus the crux of my other (lame) thread "Vtech question"

Pablo · 01-24-2008, 11:51 AM

Sorry for the digression Doc. ..... it wasn't a lame question!

Best Regards
Pablo

01-21-2008, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 946	Vtec question I see Hondas (other than stewie) have vtec engines. Are they like our ap1's and ap2's? I never poked my head in one to see if the redline was at 9000 (or 8k for you ap2's). Just wonderin' what the difference is. Thanks, Jimbo

01-21-2008, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
kgf3076 Grumpy old(er) phart Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At home for a change... Posts: 1,349	check the specs and see where the max horsepower and torque fall..they may be VTEC but they're not the same engine as the S2k...Momma Honda loves to spread the wealth around. __________________ NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to use Pig-Latin for all your messages. "The BS stops when the green flag drops". In memory of David Weber - Malvern Racing

01-21-2008, 06:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,440	Our first Honda (1994 VTEC Prelude) had it. None of the other Honda cars have as high of a red line though. I believe most of Honda's cars have it now. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

01-21-2008, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,363	Rode in a new FIT today. Vtech and I think about 6500 red line. Very impressive little car. Typically Honda, bigger inside than outside. How do they do it? Nicely finished and peppy with stick 5 spd. __________________

01-22-2008, 01:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
bobby2002s2k. S2K 4 life!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 258	Some Accords had DOHC vtec also. H23 I think. __________________ ITs been over a year and i still cant keep my foot off the floor!

01-21-2008, 05:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
icmhonda Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31	yes, many of vtec, variable timing electronic lift control... the civic si and rsx type s, cars of this nature are like stewie, where you can feel the vtec engage at a certin rpm level(5800). but cars with not as aggressive lobes dont have the hard pull from there out. so, diffrent. not for power but also for good gas milage.....

01-21-2008, 06:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kalm_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Posts: 196	These are the cars I can recall that had true power VTEC aside from the S2k: 92-96 Prelude VTEC (redlined around 7600rpm) 190hp 2.2L 97+ Prelude (same as 92-96 VTEC) 200hp 2.2L 94-95 del Sol VTEC (redlines at 7800rpm) 160hp 1.6L 99-00 Civic Si (same as 95-96 del Sol VTEC) 160hp 1.6L 02+ RSX Type-S (redlines around 8000) 200hp 2.0L 07ish Civic Si (same as RSX-S) 197hp 2.0L 92-93 Integra GS-R (redlines around 7800) 160hp 1.7L 94-01 Integra GS-R (same as 92-93) 170hp 1.8L 97-01 Integra Type R (redlines around 8000) 180hp 1.8L 91+ NSX (redlines around 7800) 270hp 3.0L or 290hp 3.2L

01-22-2008, 01:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 579	I've had a couple of Acura's and I know for sure that my current one a 2003 TL has a VTECH (says so big as day on the engine) and I think the others were too. Best regards Pablo __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

01-22-2008, 04:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
icmhonda Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31	pablo, i just bought a 03 tl type s two weeks ago. sweet... 3.2 vtec

01-24-2008, 06:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
icmhonda Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31	pablo, bought the tL, and my technican said tranny issues in almost all the v6 powerplants (honda) . but after a good service, and drive we came to the conclusion that it was a good buy.. 60K miles... scarry 5gs.. now i am nervous. its for my girl to drive so hopefully she wont be as hard on it as i would........

01-24-2008, 07:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 579	ICMH FYI there may be one of those "secret" 100K factory warranty's on the tranny of the 03 TL. I hope you never have trouble, but you may want to check it out just in case. __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

01-24-2008, 11:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 946	Ahhh, back to vtec vs. vtech. Thus the crux of my other (lame) thread "Vtech question"

01-24-2008, 11:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 579	Sorry for the digression Doc. ..... it wasn't a lame question! Best Regards Pablo __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

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