2008 model with AP1 engine

[seeno]

Does anyone know that there are later models 2004+ that have ap1 engines? I got my s2000 a week ago and it has an ap1 engine.

[Java Junky]

Not unless is wuz a swap seeno.
Strike that! I forgot that you're down where the Kanga'z roam seeno. Apologies.
I'd heard that the non-U.S. Stewies made after 2003 retained the AP1 engine. I guess you jus' confirmed that.
Java

[SoMe0nE2tAlK2]

Unless you bought it used, thats pretty much impossible.

[seeno]

Originally Posted by SoMe0nE2tAlK2

Unless you bought it used, thats pretty much impossible.

I got it from honda, brand new.

[D1sclaimer]

Do you live in the U.S. or Japan? Like Java said, some countries still sell brand new s2000s with the F20C engine. If you got it from the dealer new and its in brand new condition, id give them a call. Personally, id be happy with the 9k reving engine thats brand new, but its up to each person's preference with the 10 lb torque difference of the 8.3k rev.

[D1sclaimer]

I noticed from one of your previous threads that you traded an ausie car for it. If you're from Australia, then you still get the F20C with new cars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_F20C_engine

[seeno]

I'm from Kuwait.

[Java Junky]

Yep seeno.
I'd qualify that as non-U.S.
Like D1 said, revel in your ability to bounce off the 9000 rev-limiter.
Now you've really godda special angle on input to the site.
Be well,
Java

[bobby2002s2k.]

I would be happy with the f20, like D1claimer says "person's preference is what is all about." But I tell you what, from 6 grand all the way to top end you will walk all over a F22.

[kgf3076]

Non-US S2000's had the 2.0 liter engine until 2007 or 2008. That's not a AP-1 engine, it's a Non-USA engine.

[SoMe0nE2tAlK2]

Oooh so you get the new 2008 gauge cluster with 9k?
sweet!

[bobby2002s2k.]

Originally Posted by SoMe0nE2tAlK2

Oooh so you get the new 2008 gauge cluster with 9k?
sweet!

That would be a very nice little custom part for ya. The only thing is the Temp on it would always read in C not F.I think some one was on there talkin about that a few months back. Bc it doesnt change when you change your speedo from miles per hour to kilometers per hour eather or KPH to MPH.

[seeno]

Originally Posted by kgf3076

Non-US S2000's had the 2.0 liter engine until 2007 or 2008. That's not a AP-1 engine, it's a Non-USA engine.

Lol, u say "non-usa" like "usa" is 90% of the earth, is it an ap1 engine, i saw it written when i opened the bonnet, in a small metal plate. AP1 F20C2

[Java Junky]

Umm-m-m-m-m bobby?
I'm afraid that we're gonna godda get tagether n' correct your young'un notions about the abilities'a the AP1 n' AP2.
Ahm only doon it fer yer own good bobby. Lord know'z I plum hate'z ta see a nice young feller makin' a fool'a hisself.
N' no. I ain't comin' down ta DC. We're gonna godda find a half-way point convenient ta both'a us.
Hmm-m-m-m . . do the rules'a engagement require that we have seconds fer this?
Java

[bobby2002s2k.]

Originally Posted by Java Junky

Umm-m-m-m-m bobby?
I'm afraid that we're gonna godda get tagether n' correct your young'un notions about the abilities'a the AP1 n' AP2.
Ahm only doon it fer yer own good bobby. Lord know'z I plum hate'z ta see a nice young feller makin' a fool'a hisself.
N' no. I ain't comin' down ta DC. We're gonna godda find a half-way point convenient ta both'a us.
Hmm-m-m-m . . do the rules'a engagement require that we have seconds fer this?
Java

lol, yea man all day long. Got to get a accurate test on the pulls. Now lets be clear what I'm sayin 6 grand and up any gear the ap1 will pull on the ap2. I only express this knowledge from first hand experience and test. lol.

[bobby2002s2k.]

Originally Posted by seeno

Lol, u say "non-usa" like "usa" is 90% of the earth, is it an ap1 engine, i saw it written when i opened the bonnet, in a small metal plate. AP1 F20C2

No guy, he says non-us bc 90% of the people on here are in the US or Canada so most people understand what hes talkin about.

[seeno]

Well there's no such thing as a non-us engine, either it's an ap1 or an ap2.

[bobby2002s2k.]

Originally Posted by seeno

Well there's no such thing as a non-us engine, either it's an ap1 or an ap2.

Really, ya dont say .Well I'll break it down for ya. There is a "NON-US engine", or NON-USDM engine which ever way you want to say it.The JDM F20C has 11.5:1 compression and the USDM F20C1 has 11.0:1. So yes there is a differance. So its not just, "ap1 or an ap2".

[seeno]

Yup, smart pants tell that to kgf3076

[J'sS2K]

The Japanese version AP2, 2004, were running F20C motors. They were still redlining at 9,000rpm. They didn't recieve the F22C motors until 2005.

Jason

[bobby2002s2k.]

Originally Posted by seeno

Yup, smart pants

Good, I came across loud and clear. You just dont get it. OK once again, Here in the land of the big PX the "US" its not a Ap-1 engine. There in your country its a Ap2 engine a F20C2 "Non-US engine"."NON-USDM engine". Probably a JDM engine, I dont really know.

[kgf3076]

Originally Posted by seeno

Well there's no such thing as a non-us engine, either it's an ap1 or an ap2.

Hate to break this to you, but the F20C engine is installed in almost every vehicle that's not sold in the US. That has changed now in Japan and England (I believe). The vehicles which have these F20C engines are definitely AP-2 as defined by Honda. They are NOT AP-1's. The last AP-1 was built world-wide in 2003. The AP-2 series started in 2004. In Japan, the F20C was kept because of a tax table that taxes vehicles higher when the engines are larger than 2 liter. The F20C engine is 1997 CC which by my calculations makes it smaller than 2 liter (2000 cc for the metric system challenged). Now whether this holds true in other parts of the world, I can't categorically state, I just know what the reasoning was in Japan.

[seeno]

I think England still has the F20C engine, check out the link D1sclaimer posted.