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Old 07-22-2008, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Click sound on driver side rear tire

when I back up and I hit the brakes, i hear a "click" (pretty loud) on the driver side rear tire. Or when im in first gear and i release the gas. Anyone knows this issue?


I think its caused by a small pot hole entering the highway a while back ago. But not sure.

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Old 07-22-2008, 12:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Gotta tighten the big nut on the axle. There is a tsb about it (I think). You need to unstake the nut, take it off, clean up the area, grease the nut and torque it down tighter than it was before. Not sure on the specs. I think I started a thread on this subject here or on s2kca. I had the same problem and that was the fix.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ahh, where is the Axle nut located?(sorry i dont even know what an axle is) and what kind of grease did you use?
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You have to take the rear wheel off. You're gonna need an impact wrench or a big socket and a cheater bar. I can't remember if I did it with the wheel off or just the center cap removed. I'll do some research here.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks man. i guess it is the Axle nut then.( thought it was something worst) 220 lbs torque.

The axle nut is located in the middle of the wheel right?
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"I believe yours is the typical hub axle nut thing. Support some of the weight of the car on a jack but leave tires firmly on ground, leave in gear, ebrake firmly applied. Remove center cap of rim, unstake the nut, remove nut and washer (keep track of order and orientation of washer), clean the area a bit with a rag, grease lightly the axle threads and the faces of the washer, put washer back on and nut back on. Re-torque to the increase spec of 221. Re-stake nut rim.
You'll need a 36mm socket."
That's from the guru, Xviper, on s2kca.
It fixed my problem. I used some hi-temp grease I had laying around. The old torque was 181 ft/lbs. That was insufficient. Got to torque to 221 ft/lbs. To unstake the nut, you need to get a chisel in where the part of the nut has been hammered into the groove and unbend it. When done retorquing, you need to hammer part of the nut back into the groove to keep it from loosening.
Hope this helps.
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Aero,

First off, good luck with the issue. Hoping Doc is right and that's all it is. Secondly, for what it's worth, I'd definitely suggest having someone who knows a bit more cars to look over your shoulder when you're doing it.

There's no shame in it... we all had to learn sometime. Just my two cents.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Good point Swingle. I've been around cars and wrenches for a few years, so this was pretty easy compared to a clutch job.
My first oil change, I forgot to put the drain plug back in. When I was putting the new oil in, it was coming out of the engine just as fast. I figured that out after about 1 quart. I put the drain plug in and proceeded to add more oil and DAMN, it came out of a different area. That's when I figured out I should put the new oil filter on before I go any further. Live & Learn. Never ever did that again.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks Jimbo. this look like heavy work. Gona ask a friend to help with this. can the same Axle nut be used again after its unstaken?
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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When I was about 10 or 11, I put a new tube in the front tire of my bike. While "popping a wheelie", it became apparent that I hadn't tightened the wheel down as well as I should have.
I guess it's not really childhood until you've eaten a face full of asphalt.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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When I was about 10 or 11, I put a new tube in the front tire of my bike. While "popping a wheelie", it became apparent that I hadn't tightened the wheel down as well as I should have.
I guess it's not really childhood until you've eaten a face full of asphalt.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey Dr. Jimbo Would you by some chance have a link to that TSB? My 2001 NFR S2000 has been doing this exact same clicking thing for some and I only have 16, 300 miles on it. Do you need to re-torque both sides?

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Gotta tighten the big nut on the axle. There is a tsb about it (I think). You need to unstake the nut, take it off, clean up the area, grease the nut and torque it down tighter than it was before. Not sure on the specs. I think I started a thread on this subject here or on s2kca. I had the same problem and that was the fix.

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Old 07-22-2008, 02:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks Jimbo. this look like heavy work. Gona ask a friend to help with this. can the same Axle nut be used again after its unstaken?
Technically yes. I think Honda recommends a new one just to cover their ass. They're about $3 each (I think). I reused my old one and I've had no problems or click since then.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Dr. Jimbo Would you by some chance have a link to that TSB? My 2001 NFR S2000 has been doing this exact same clicking thing for some and I only have 16, 300 miles on it.

Thanks s2kx2
I've only read about the tsb, ain't never seen it myself. Google baby, Google!

Do you only drive on weekends? I've put 21k on my '01 NFR in less than a year and a half.
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Yea I only drive it on the weekends and only when its not raining. I try to alternate between the 01 and the 05 equally but the 05 gets driven more just because it is more forgiving of driver error after one has deluded themselves on a "spirited mountain drive" into thinking "I am Michael Schumacher I am! ... I am! .. I am! ... OH .. S**T!

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I've only read about the tsb, ain't never seen it myself. Google baby, Google!

Do you only drive on weekends? I've put 21k on my '01 NFR in less than a year and a half.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I had the same problem at one point, but mine grew insidiously louder very quickly until I was told my rear wheel bearings were shot. I had 100k miles at the time.
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I've put 21k on my '01 NFR in less than a year and a half.
That's it??? I've done 14k already this year!! ROOKIE!!
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Whats TSB? will dealer fix this for free?
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This (and the bike reference) made me remember my own mistake...

And I was not a rookie at the time.

I have done many thousands of miles on bikes, and do all of my own work. I had just purchased a Cannondale Six13 and switched the Dura-ace wheels it came with for my nice Ksyrium ones. I went on a nice long ride, climbed Latigo Canyon, came back down to PCH via Kaanan Dume Rd, touching speeds of 50 miles per hour... much fun.

On the final run into Santa Barbara I got passed by a long line of riders. At the end, I jumped up out of the saddle and jerked the rear wheel out of the stays. It got wedged in the rear triangle and locked up. Since all of my weight was over the handlebars, I went end over end. When I jumped out of the saddle, I was doing 27 miles per hour. Nothing was broken, but by the time I healed my life changed (thanks to a woman) and I was done racing.

After the crash I found the quick-release open. I don't think I had tightened it when I changed the wheels (had to swap gears, which means pulling the release).
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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First off, good luck with the issue. Hoping Doc is right and that's all it is. Secondly, for what it's worth, I'd definitely suggest having someone who knows a bit more cars to look over your shoulder when you're doing it.

Hey Aero,

Swingle's giving you the straight up goods on the situation.....get an opinion from someone " in the know".

did you check your lug nuts? yeehaa!

TSB doesn't mean anything. (technical service bulliten)

When some complaint is listed as a TSB, it just means it's a common problem with your s2000, and the dealer can't offer anything unless you're under factory warranty......Dr. Jimbo very well may be correct, but you won't know till somebody qualified takes a peek at your ride. ......NOISE=BAD. Get 'er looked at now,Bro!

Let us know what transpires Aero. If it's something that happens to alot of S2000's, we'd love to know about it.

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Old 07-22-2008, 11:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When I was about 10 or 11, I put a new tube in the front tire of my bike. While "popping a wheelie", it became apparent that I hadn't tightened the wheel down as well as I should have.
I guess it's not really childhood until you've eaten a face full of asphalt.
I did that! Lucky for me, it was a lawn... The asphalt came when I let my malamute pull me on a skateboard - man, do they love to run! He saw another dog and I was too stupid to let go - left denim skid marks on the road.
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