Engine problem

bigbiglemoncoke · 07-27-2008, 08:09 PM

Hi,
I just realize my AP1 water box has chocolate mikeshake looking liquid inside. Does anyone know what could cause this issue. Please help.. thx

SXY_S2K · 07-27-2008, 08:12 PM

Ok... Define 'water box'...?

D1sclaimer · 07-27-2008, 08:18 PM

Do you mean your airbox? I know AP1s have a big problem with oil leaking from the PCV valve into the intake. Don't know if it could have drained down the intake tube if thats the case.

bigbiglemoncoke · 07-27-2008, 08:26 PM

Sorry about the terms. What I mean is the plastic white bottle that has a hose link to the radiator.

DJJSR · 07-27-2008, 08:34 PM

That's the overflow reservoir for the radiator and it should only have coolant/antifreeze in it. Better have a look in the radiator.

Dr. Jimbo · 07-27-2008, 09:35 PM

Milkshake = oil + coolant. Not good. How's your temp gauge? Usually happens with a blown head gasket or cracked head. Get it checked as soon as possible.

J'sS2K · 07-27-2008, 09:40 PM

Maybe it's time to flush the radiator.

makopolo · 07-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Flush the cooling system to get rid of it and so you can monitor the situation.

SXY_S2K · 07-27-2008, 10:27 PM

OUCH, sorry to her it's so serious, and DEF follow these fellows' advice... Best to start from Square one and rule out the bad guys...

killabee · 07-28-2008, 05:30 AM

How long have you owend the car? have you ever changed the fluid? If you havent it could just be rust water. If that is the case get it flushed out and you will be fine. and just to make sure take a look at your oil. If it appears milky than you have a problem. If not then a simple flush will do.

Dr. Jimbo · 07-29-2008, 10:13 AM

Hey bigbig, let us know how it turns out. Doctors always like to know what the diagnosis is.

chazdawg35 · 07-29-2008, 06:39 PM

Hey Dudes that sounds like OIL and COOLANT are mixing together, not good. How is it running? Check the Oil and see what the condition of that is. If that looks milky you might have a bad head gasket or cracked head. I don't think you could of cracked the block Hondas are pretty tough. There are some tests your mechanic can do to check it out, where you at?

desmo4 · 07-29-2008, 06:47 PM

That is commonly know as cream of toadstool soup. And I am certain you have a blown head gasket.

Jonathan

dezignpro04 · 07-30-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmo4

That is commonly know as cream of toadstool soup. And I am certain you have a blown head gasket.

Jonathan

100% certain? Really? Guess he should thank you for driving to his house and "personally" checking it for him.

There is no reason to be a fainting goat.....

Untill you rule everything out, you don't know anything. Follow the above advice...

1) Flush the radiator (if you dont want to a local shop should do it for around $45)

2) Monitor the system.

A couple of questions.

a) How long have you owned it and how many miles does it have?

b) Has it ever over heated since you have owned it? (If not it is very unlikly that is it because of a head gasket)

Reason is is some people will just add fluid to there resevior tank to "fill it up" cause they think it needs it. Remember that there are different color radiator fluids, and if you mix the orange and the green it will look brown and somewhat milky. There are also additives you can add that claim to lower engine temps. The only problem is that they are somtimes different colors and that can cause a color change. They also have special additives to put in incase you think your radiator is leaking to try and seal the leak. That can change colors as well when mixed. Do you have any oil leaks under the motor? Do you know if the radiator has ever leaked or been replaced? Do you change your oil regularly? Again good questions to ask.

Hope that helps.

philiam · 07-30-2008, 06:35 PM

1) Flush the radiator (if you dont want to a local shop should do it for around $45)

2) Monitor the system.

A couple of questions.

a) How long have you owned it and how many miles does it have?

b) Has it ever over heated since you have owned it? (If not it is very unlikly that is it because of a head gasket)

Reason is is some people will just add fluid to there resevior tank to "fill it up" cause they think it needs it. Remember that there are different color radiator fluids, and if you mix the orange and the green it will look brown and somewhat milky. There are also additives you can add that claim to lower engine temps. The only problem is that they are somtimes different colors and that can cause a color change. They also have special additives to put in incase you think your radiator is leaking to try and seal the leak. That can change colors as well when mixed. Do you have any oil leaks under the motor? Do you know if the radiator has ever leaked or been replaced? Do you change your oil regularly? Again good questions to ask.

Hope that helps.[/quote]

Right on the money! A lot of people put stuff in the water that will make it change color. Sometimes it's just for prophylactic measures. And no, that's not dirt.

lonestarbuzz · 07-31-2008, 08:19 AM

what does the milkshake stuff taste like? i've heard that if it is chocolate, just a flush will do, but if it is chocolate-banana, that is a whole 'nother set of problems.

dezignpro04 · 07-31-2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonestarbuzz

what does the milkshake stuff taste like? i've heard that if it is chocolate, just a flush will do, but if it is chocolate-banana, that is a whole 'nother set of problems.

What would we do without lonestar's "Smoothie King" input....

LOL

desmo4 · 07-31-2008, 11:48 AM

If it's in the overflow tank it's in the radiator. If oil is getting into the radiator which is what makes "cream of toadstool soup) then it is coming from somewhere where pressurized oil comes from and is near the water jacket. The best place it could come from, the most common and the least expensive thing to fix is the head gasket. If it is coming from somewhere else then it will be a seriously expensive repair. And in any case make sure whoever does the job is competent and flushes the cooling system thoroughly. Because if any oil contamination remains it could precipitate a second failure due to overheating, I have seen it happen.

Jonathan

Dr. Jimbo · 07-31-2008, 12:04 PM

I had an old Honda Civic. Got it free with a blown head gasket. Shaved the head and replaced the head gasket twice. It would blow on a hot day going up a steep grade. Gave the car to my friend. He replaced the head gasket AND the radiator (which looked fine inside (as far as one could see) and outside). He never had a problem with it again.

Swingle1 · 07-31-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezignpro04

There is no reason to be a fainting goat.....

What's a fainting goat? Jagg? I think this may be your bailiwick.

Dr. Jimbo · 07-31-2008, 12:18 PM

Google it. Pretty funny if you see the video.

dezignpro04 · 07-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swingle1

What's a fainting goat? Jagg? I think this may be your bailiwick.

For those wondering.... Here you go....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg

Swingle1 · 07-31-2008, 12:41 PM

Thanks for the vid, Dez. Kinda reminds me of my ex-mother in law. And there was definitely no reason to be like that.

dezignpro04 · 07-31-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swingle1

Thanks for the vid, Dez. Kinda reminds me of my ex-mother in law. And there was definitely no reason to be like that.

Lol. And no problem, I agree!

lonestarbuzz · 08-01-2008, 07:34 AM

i've seen similar videos many many times, but i still laugh myself to tears!

07-27-2008, 08:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigbiglemoncoke Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4	Engine problem Hi, I just realize my AP1 water box has chocolate mikeshake looking liquid inside. Does anyone know what could cause this issue. Please help.. thx

07-27-2008, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	Ok... Define 'water box'...? __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-27-2008, 08:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 423	Do you mean your airbox? I know AP1s have a big problem with oil leaking from the PCV valve into the intake. Don't know if it could have drained down the intake tube if thats the case. __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-27-2008, 08:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,674	That's the overflow reservoir for the radiator and it should only have coolant/antifreeze in it. Better have a look in the radiator. __________________ Don

07-27-2008, 09:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,004	Milkshake = oil + coolant. Not good. How's your temp gauge? Usually happens with a blown head gasket or cracked head. Get it checked as soon as possible. __________________

07-27-2008, 08:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigbiglemoncoke Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4	Sorry about the terms. What I mean is the plastic white bottle that has a hose link to the radiator.

07-27-2008, 09:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
J'sS2K The Car Camera Mount Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 808	Maybe it's time to flush the radiator. __________________ So you're heading to the track and you want to record your sessions. PM me for an in-car camera mount For everything else, you are on your own!

07-27-2008, 09:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
makopolo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 162	Flush the cooling system to get rid of it and so you can monitor the situation.

07-27-2008, 10:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
SXY_S2K Trqless Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 991	OUCH, sorry to her it's so serious, and DEF follow these fellows' advice... Best to start from Square one and rule out the bad guys... __________________ *Race time. Got to be serious, not stylish.* *www.myspace.com/kesmith3*

07-28-2008, 05:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
killabee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 110	How long have you owend the car? have you ever changed the fluid? If you havent it could just be rust water. If that is the case get it flushed out and you will be fine. and just to make sure take a look at your oil. If it appears milky than you have a problem. If not then a simple flush will do.

07-29-2008, 10:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,004	Hey bigbig, let us know how it turns out. Doctors always like to know what the diagnosis is. __________________

07-29-2008, 06:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 666	Hey Dudes that sounds like OIL and COOLANT are mixing together, not good. How is it running? Check the Oil and see what the condition of that is. If that looks milky you might have a bad head gasket or cracked head. I don't think you could of cracked the block Hondas are pretty tough. There are some tests your mechanic can do to check it out, where you at?

07-29-2008, 06:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 523	That is commonly know as cream of toadstool soup. And I am certain you have a blown head gasket. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

07-30-2008, 06:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,579	1) Flush the radiator (if you dont want to a local shop should do it for around $45) 2) Monitor the system. A couple of questions. a) How long have you owned it and how many miles does it have? b) Has it ever over heated since you have owned it? (If not it is very unlikly that is it because of a head gasket) Reason is is some people will just add fluid to there resevior tank to "fill it up" cause they think it needs it. Remember that there are different color radiator fluids, and if you mix the orange and the green it will look brown and somewhat milky. There are also additives you can add that claim to lower engine temps. The only problem is that they are somtimes different colors and that can cause a color change. They also have special additives to put in incase you think your radiator is leaking to try and seal the leak. That can change colors as well when mixed. Do you have any oil leaks under the motor? Do you know if the radiator has ever leaked or been replaced? Do you change your oil regularly? Again good questions to ask. Hope that helps.[/quote] Right on the money! A lot of people put stuff in the water that will make it change color. Sometimes it's just for prophylactic measures. And no, that's not dirt. __________________

07-31-2008, 08:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
lonestarbuzz awesome Join Date: May 2008 Location: arlington Posts: 637	what does the milkshake stuff taste like? i've heard that if it is chocolate, just a flush will do, but if it is chocolate-banana, that is a whole 'nother set of problems. __________________ i need a better signature.

07-31-2008, 11:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 523	If it's in the overflow tank it's in the radiator. If oil is getting into the radiator which is what makes "cream of toadstool soup) then it is coming from somewhere where pressurized oil comes from and is near the water jacket. The best place it could come from, the most common and the least expensive thing to fix is the head gasket. If it is coming from somewhere else then it will be a seriously expensive repair. And in any case make sure whoever does the job is competent and flushes the cooling system thoroughly. Because if any oil contamination remains it could precipitate a second failure due to overheating, I have seen it happen. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

07-31-2008, 12:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,004	I had an old Honda Civic. Got it free with a blown head gasket. Shaved the head and replaced the head gasket twice. It would blow on a hot day going up a steep grade. Gave the car to my friend. He replaced the head gasket AND the radiator (which looked fine inside (as far as one could see) and outside). He never had a problem with it again. __________________

07-31-2008, 12:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,004	Google it. Pretty funny if you see the video. __________________

07-31-2008, 12:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
Swingle1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 290	Thanks for the vid, Dez. Kinda reminds me of my ex-mother in law. And there was definitely no reason to be like that.

08-01-2008, 07:34 AM	#25 (permalink)
lonestarbuzz awesome Join Date: May 2008 Location: arlington Posts: 637	i've seen similar videos many many times, but i still laugh myself to tears! __________________ i need a better signature.

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