upgrading my s2000

[moos500]

Im trying to decide what im going to do to my s2000. I know eventually i want to either supercharge or turbo. Since money isnt something i have alot of right now. I want to upgrade the eingine but i dont want to just throw a crap load of bolt ons(this might come out wrong, i rather do more technical stuff like new cams, headers and such. Can anyone give me any suggestions. I know many people in the past have posted a thread like this, but any help would be awsome.

[J'sS2K]

What's your budget?

[moos500]

First i wanna get ideas and go from there. If i have goals i tend to work harder towards them. So i just want some parts and stuff that would help me gain power. Overall not to expensive

[D1sclaimer]

If you're going supercharged or turbo, don't buy an intake cause you'll just take it off when you go forced induction.

Cams are junk for our cars. Brian Crower made some, but ended up losing whp and idling really bad. They were recalled.

If you want a good mod that you can use now and when you go forced induction, I'd say get an aftermarket ecu,AEM EMS, and get it tuned. Or even the Greddy Ultimate piggyback. You can use these to tune your car at the moment and you'll need them when you go forced induction. With a stock car, I've seen up to 20 peak whp gains from just a standalone ecu. Piggybacks with timing control, Greddy Ultimate, you can get about 12-15 extra whp when stock. The VAFC piggyback can get you up to 10whp above stock, but you won't be able to tune a forced induction car too much with it. Id suggest the AEM EMS for now. Way better than a 5whp gaining exhaust, header, or intakes.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by moos500

Im trying to decide what im going to do to my s2000. I know eventually i want to either supercharge or turbo. Since money isnt something i have alot of right now. I want to upgrade the eingine but i dont want to just throw a crap load of bolt ons(this might come out wrong, i rather do more technical stuff like new cams, headers and such. Can anyone give me any suggestions. I know many people in the past have posted a thread like this, but any help would be awsome.

For the life of me I don't understand why so many folks posting on this site buy an "S" an then try to make it faster and or quicker. I baffles me! Don't they read the specs for this car BEFORE they buy it? As stated in previous post by me, why not just drop your $ and buy a FASTER car?

Please someone x plain to me why these folks don't just buy a Vette, a Porsche, a Viper, for that matter a classic Camero or GTO? Damn, drop a blown Chevy small block V8 into a '67 Beetle if you want a "sleeper".

Why try to change a peach into an apple? Just buy the apple and shut up.

OK, sorry I am tired and cranky tonight.

[moos500]

well i mean if i definatly could have got a vet or faster car for a graduation present i would have. sorry i wanna make it faster.

[moos500]

I found this on e bay http://cgi.ebay.com/AEM-EMS-30-1052U...6.c0.m14.l1318. looks legit what do you think

[@nthony]

The guy selling on eBay has sold 4 items. I wouldn't even think about buying from him. I say just save your money and get your turbo or sc that much sooner. If you really just feel like dropping money, go spend it on a driving school, so you know how to handle all the extra power. Or just for fun.

[moos500]

if i want to turbo now im going to have to work my ass off. Im still not sure if i should turbo or supercharge, im just torn bewteen the two

[@nthony]

I would go the supercharger route since you seem to be on a budget. I generally see turbo kits costing a little more. What year is your S? If you have an 06+, I would go with the Kraftwerks base supercharger kit. It has everything you need including an ECU reflash from Hondata. It should get you a solid 300whp. And if you ever want more power, you can get there high boost kit which is basically a new pulley, injectors, and some other stuff. Check out their website, the kit should cost you around $7,000 when all is said and done.

[gomarlins3]

Save your money for boost. Don't mess around.

[moos500]

my s is an 03. I fi did go turbo i would
have to replace alot inside the engine right?

[J'sS2K]

Originally Posted by @nthony

The guy selling on eBay has sold 4 items. I wouldn't even think about buying from him. I say just save your money and get your turbo or sc that much sooner. If you really just feel like dropping money, go spend it on a driving school, so you know how to handle all the extra power. Or just for fun.

OK What does that have to do with his integrity?

[J'sS2K]

Originally Posted by moos500

I found this on e bay http://cgi.ebay.com/AEM-EMS-30-1052U...6.c0.m14.l1318. looks legit what do you think

He sold an exact item back in July 16 for $760.00. He recieved a positive feedback from the buyer. I'd say it's legit.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...:feedback:3:us

[s2000isu]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Please someone x plain to me why these folks don't just buy a Vette, a Porsche, a Viper, for that matter a classic Camero or GTO? Damn, drop a blown Chevy small block V8 into a '67 Beetle if you want a "sleeper".

Why try to change a peach into an apple? Just buy the apple and shut up.

OK, sorry I am tired and cranky tonight.

Because those cars are either alot more money or dont come close to fitting what someone wants in a car. Also believe it or not some people take pride in working on their car and building it up to what they want.

[S2K AP2]

Originally Posted by Pablo

For the life of me I don't understand why so many folks posting on this site buy an "S" an then try to make it faster and or quicker. I baffles me! Don't they read the specs for this car BEFORE they buy it? As stated in previous post by me, why not just drop your $ and buy a FASTER car?

Please someone x plain to me why these folks don't just buy a Vette, a Porsche, a Viper, for that matter a classic Camero or GTO? Damn, drop a blown Chevy small block V8 into a '67 Beetle if you want a "sleeper".

Why try to change a peach into an apple? Just buy the apple and shut up.

OK, sorry I am tired and cranky tonight.

For myself, personally, I went with the S2K because it has been my favorite car since I was about 10 years old (since 2000). I can't/couldn't imagine myself having any other car for my first car.
I also want to tune up my S2000, but am not going to do it any time soon, seeing as I lack funds...

[DJJSR]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Damn, drop a blown Chevy small block V8 into a '67 Beetle if you want a "sleeper".

I like the way you think!

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by moos500

well i mean if i definatly could have got a vet or faster car for a graduation present i would have. sorry i wanna make it faster.

Moo, no apology necessary my friend. I'm just trying to understand the rational for the speed thing. A Stewie is no slouch as a car. She's sure not the quickest off the line and never will be even with a turbo, supercharger. She's still not gonna take Vette or a 911. You may get to beat a random ricer or two but that's about it.

So what do ya get for 5 to 10 grand? Ya get bragging rights......OOOHHHH AHHHHH, I have a turbo. You get to pop the bonnet at S2 gatherings so we naturally aspired enthusiasts can go OOOHHHH AHHHHHHH a turbo. And you get a car with a shorter lifespan and less reliability.

Obviously, it's an individual choice and everyone is free to do with their disposable income what ever they want. More power to them. (pun intended) If it were me, and I really wanted to go faster, and smoke 99% of every 4 wheeler on the road under 500K I'd buy a Hyabusa, a Honda CBR 1000 RR or a Yammie R1. You get all the speed you crave and more, and spend not much more $ than for your turbo kit. You would also get a spare set of wheels if your Stewie is in the shop!

[S2K AP2]

Unless you do a complete engine swap of some sort, I doubt supercharging/turbocharging the S2K will make it faster than a 911 or Corvette; however, I would still turbo charge my S2000 just because I like the way the turbo sounds whenever you shift gears, and a turbo'd S2K will most likely burn a Subaru Impreza WRX STi and an Evo.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by S2K AP2

a turbo'd S2K will most likely burn a Subaru Impreza WRX STi and an Evo.

WOW really!! That and a buck seventy five will get ya a Starbucks.

[DJJSR]

Learned something from this thread today........$1.75 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Hmmmm......I think it's overpriced. Thanks, Pab! You buyin?

[S2K AP2]

Originally Posted by Pablo

WOW really!! That and a buck seventy five will get ya a Starbucks.

No, really.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by DJJSR

Learned something from this thread today........$1.75 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Hmmmm......I think it's overpriced. Thanks, Pab! You buyin?

For you DJ, ANYTIME! and you are right about being overpriced. We can talk about stuffin a blown 327 into the back seat of a V Dub. Did I see that once in a Hot Rod Magazine a LONG time ago??

[DJJSR]

Sorry for hijacking your thread Moos.

One nasty VW.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waN4a...eature=related

[lonestarbuzz]

experience yields that a turbo will be less reliable than a super charger. the benefit of the turbo is that you don't have to have a lot of power to generate boost. with a super charger, because it is run off a pulley and not the exhaust, it takes more power to generate boost. i don't feel that that would be an issue on our cars though. SCs don't suffer from turbo lag either. i've never been in an S with a turbo or SC, so my opinion might not be what you are looking for.

it's your car though, and that's what is important. i think it is unfair for people to say that it is pointless to put FI on our cars. i drove a forester XT before i bought Stewie, that was a subaru stationwagon (small SUV) with a turbo. it made the car quicker than the NA version and that was the point.

[@nthony]

Originally Posted by moos500

my s is an 03. I fi did go turbo i would
have to replace alot inside the engine right?

The S comes factory with forged rods and pistons, but that still will limit that amount of boost you would run. Maybe you should post in the FI section for help and suggestions.

[dezignpro04]

Originally Posted by @nthony

The S comes factory with forged rods and pistons, but that still will limit that amount of boost you would run. Maybe you should post in the FI section for help and suggestions.

Correct. The motor is blueprinted from factory, and can handle decent boost with out modification. But the most I would push is around maybe 12psi for track days and 8 - 10 psi for DD. The main thing about the car that isn't made to take power is the rear diff. But you can get a diff kit to fix that.