Turbo or Supercharger?? - Page 2

LanceVance · 11-15-2006, 04:15 PM

Turbo and Supercharger
Yeah...there the same... like Missionary and Doggy are the same... as in a priest and a puppy. what you think i mean sex? no i mean a priest and a puppy.

Again, more performance = less space in engine bay?
do you need that space? is that space more important than HP?

mugens2k · 11-15-2006, 04:25 PM

turbo sucks in air and compress them to make more power.

superchargers are pulleys,

two different things, not the same

supercharger looks nicer

s2000isu · 11-15-2006, 05:28 PM

um. ya ummm ok. i was just stating that they were close to the same size. since others had mentioned they werent. here is my other car does it look like im all that worried about space in the s2000 that engine is shoe horned in there. And mugen just a little info for ya about forced induction. They both suck air in they both take that air and cram it into the intake so they both do the exact same thing the difference is one spins because its attached to pulleys and the other is done with exhaust gasses

gomarlins3 · 11-15-2006, 05:49 PM

You can be boosted AND pretty in my opinion:

s2000isu · 11-15-2006, 05:57 PM

agreed I think any form of boost under the hood looks sexy. Personally i buy cars to drive them.

mugens2k · 11-15-2006, 06:01 PM

it takes in air to spin the pulley, it does compress but not alot,

i was refering to the engine compressing not the supercharger compression

Halo · 11-16-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugens2k

it takes in air to spin the pulley, it does compress but not alot,

i was refering to the engine compressing not the supercharger compression

s2000isu · 11-16-2006, 02:22 PM

hehe I chose not to go in to detail about supercharging and turbo charging because of that.

gomarlins3 · 11-16-2006, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugens2k

it takes in air to spin the pulley

Silly me, I thought it was the belt spinning the SC pulley. The belt that was being driven by the crank pulley. I didn't realize the air was spinning it. What was I thinking?

mugens2k · 11-16-2006, 03:24 PM

yeah boy yeah

karnito · 11-17-2006, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomarlins3

Silly me, I thought it was the belt spinning the SC pulley. The belt that was being driven by the crank pulley. I didn't realize the air was spinning it. What was I thinking?

You were thinking about the hot exhaust gases leaving the engine after combustion are routed directly to the turbine wheel side of the turbocharger to make it rotate. Oops, did I say turbo? I'm sorry.

s2000isu · 11-17-2006, 07:28 AM

Well why did you say hot gasses? What is the benefit of the gasses being hot? Is this why its best to make a compact equal length manifold that wont disipate heat well for turbos? Lol Someone is learning something from this useless thread damnit lets get some facts going on up in here

karnito · 11-17-2006, 08:18 AM

Here are the facts for this topic. I hope this will settle all curiosities.

Howstuffworks "How Turbochargers Work"

SuperchargersOnline.com :: Supercharger Basics

karnito · 11-17-2006, 08:29 AM

A video link of turbo and supercharge s2k combat. I think the video is taken from the turbo s2k.

Video - Supercharged S2000 vs TurboCharged S2000

Video - S/C S2000 vs Turbo S2000 part 2

gomarlins3 · 11-17-2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karnito

You were thinking about the hot exhaust gases leaving the engine after combustion are routed directly to the turbine wheel side of the turbocharger to make it rotate. Oops, did I say turbo? I'm sorry.

It was a joke about a SC, but thanks.

s2000isu · 11-17-2006, 01:04 PM

I dont think the video was in the turbocharged car when they were close you heard all kindsa wastegate when they were far apart you couldnt hear it.

karnito · 11-17-2006, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomarlins3

It was a joke about a SC, but thanks.

I knew you did

I was poking fun at mugen.

karnito · 11-17-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

I dont think the video was in the turbocharged car when they were close you heard all kindsa wastegate when they were far apart you couldnt hear it.

True that. I wished they would have stoped and filmed the engines before rolled all out on the road like that. hmmm.

gomarlins3 · 11-17-2006, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karnito

I knew you did

I was poking fun at mugen.

Got it. No worries.

chemical · 11-18-2006, 12:13 AM

damm i guess this other thread i started is going good lolz. lates

gomarlins3 · 11-18-2006, 06:16 AM

You are right. I believe we are making fun of you in here as well.

karnito · 11-18-2006, 09:19 PM

hahaha. That's funny. hahahahaha

chemical · 11-19-2006, 03:24 PM

yeah thaTS koo as long as you know that your funny looking

s2000isu · 11-19-2006, 03:34 PM

lol you guys are awesome

gomarlins3 · 11-19-2006, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemical

yeah thaTS koo as long as you know that your funny looking

I'm sorry, have we ever met? Didn't think so. Have you ever seen a picture of me? Didn't think so there either. Do you still not know how to type or spell? Hey, you got one right, nice job.

pecetrn · 11-21-2006, 09:33 PM

come on guys; don't get personal here. We are all here to waste time and RELAX. So get the stick out of you assses and upshift already; squash it.

karnito · 11-22-2006, 06:49 AM

hey marlins. saw you on s2kca. pecetrn; like any thread. it's going to start really strong then slowly die out as time goes. But you are right; we are here for the car

But we'd had a little fun with mugen though

gomarlins3 · 11-22-2006, 09:25 AM

I am on all the S2000 sites, at least the ones I know about. Always the same screen name.

abe_fshr · 12-20-2006, 10:07 PM

whats the maximum amount of HP sombody got out of a stock engine with forced induction?

and has anybody ever heard of a S2000 beating a Ferrari? i think its theoretically possible

s2000isu · 12-21-2006, 09:12 AM

are you being serious? i could make a festiva smoke one

abe_fshr · 12-21-2006, 12:47 PM

what i meant to ask was has anybody seen it happen? specifically a 360 or a F430

s2000isu · 12-21-2006, 01:11 PM

in what way quarter mile or handling?

lovefabS2k · 02-25-2007, 09:31 PM

wow, i really dont think many of the people in here know ANYTHING about motors or cars or the potential of S2000's or any car for the matter... brand names dont mean anything like dude said... you can take a festiva and rape lambo and ferrari's

abe_fshr · 02-25-2007, 11:34 PM

i already knew it its possible, everybody knows its possible, but what i was asking was has anybody seen it happen? not if u can make a festiva toast a ferrari, im sure you are fully capable of doing that, plus i wasnt talking about a drag race, i meant on a track with turns

lovefabS2k · 02-26-2007, 06:47 AM

Well... i know its possible in a drag race, never seen it though, and i Have seen an S2 beat a lambo anf ferrari, go to youtube and look at some of the videos, i would go get the link... but im too lazy... its an actualy automotive tv show so its def legit.

Silver_06_S2k · 03-04-2007, 11:52 PM

Wow, ok. Turbocharger = uses SPENT exhaust gas to compress air and force it into your intake tract. I mean its probably pretty hot, but thats irrelevant. The exhaust has to spool up, hence the turbo lag.

Supercharger = is belt driven, does exactly the same thing, but since its belt driven its always "on" so to speak, there is no spooling.

The benefits of a turbo are that it can usually produce higher PSI, depending on the size of the turbo, which means more power. The benefits of the supercharger is its always on tap, since its belt driven. Both do exactly the same thing, compress the air coming into your engine therefore making your engine (a giant vacuum) work more efficiently.

I'm new to this car, so im not sure which is more efficient but man, whatever that black S2k had in the video that was posted, I want!

Cosmo · 03-05-2007, 01:49 PM

Hey all,

Does anyone have torque and hp gains on the SC vs TC quandry? I know Comptec states 340 hp at the flywheel in their adverts. Has anyone of you lads put your SC'd or TC'd S2K's on the dyno to really see what your gains are?

Also the only SC I have been able to locate is the Comptec or Vortech Snail type SC. Does noone make a traditional roots-type blower for our auto's

Cosmo

02 S2K
94 Triumph Bonneville America
87 Jaguar XJ6

MattG · 03-05-2007, 05:20 PM

No traditional roots type blower available in a kit for our car just yet. A few people have tried to make one, but none have so far come to market. Jackson Racing are working on one at the moment.

Typically the roots type blower does not provide enough at the top of the rev range.

Silver_06_S2k · 03-18-2007, 12:57 AM

I think i've decided on turbo as my choice for boost. Anyone know what the best kit, and anyone know of any good wrench shops in southern cali that will install?

JR8TED · 03-20-2007, 11:59 PM

blow off valve in a supercharge huh didnt know that. im new to the mod scene. So where can u get these blow off valves?

11-15-2006, 05:49 PM	#44 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,694	You can be boosted AND pretty in my opinion: __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

11-17-2006, 08:18 AM	#53 (permalink)
karnito Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 253	Here are the facts for this topic. I hope this will settle all curiosities. Howstuffworks "How Turbochargers Work" SuperchargersOnline.com :: Supercharger Basics __________________ [HAD an 00 GReddy S2K] [06 Porsche Carrera]

11-17-2006, 08:29 AM	#54 (permalink)
karnito Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 253	A video link of turbo and supercharge s2k combat. I think the video is taken from the turbo s2k. Video - Supercharged S2000 vs TurboCharged S2000 Video - S/C S2000 vs Turbo S2000 part 2 __________________ [HAD an 00 GReddy S2K] [06 Porsche Carrera]

11-18-2006, 06:16 AM	#61 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,694	You are right. I believe we are making fun of you in here as well. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

11-18-2006, 09:19 PM	#62 (permalink)
karnito Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 253	hahaha. That's funny. hahahahaha __________________ [HAD an 00 GReddy S2K] [06 Porsche Carrera]

11-15-2006, 04:15 PM	#41 (permalink)
LanceVance Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 37	Turbo and Supercharger Yeah...there the same... like Missionary and Doggy are the same... as in a priest and a puppy. what you think i mean sex? no i mean a priest and a puppy. Again, more performance = less space in engine bay? do you need that space? is that space more important than HP?

11-15-2006, 04:25 PM	#42 (permalink)
mugens2k Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	turbo sucks in air and compress them to make more power. superchargers are pulleys, two different things, not the same supercharger looks nicer

11-15-2006, 05:28 PM	#43 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	um. ya ummm ok. i was just stating that they were close to the same size. since others had mentioned they werent. here is my other car does it look like im all that worried about space in the s2000 that engine is shoe horned in there. And mugen just a little info for ya about forced induction. They both suck air in they both take that air and cram it into the intake so they both do the exact same thing the difference is one spins because its attached to pulleys and the other is done with exhaust gasses

11-15-2006, 05:57 PM	#45 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	agreed I think any form of boost under the hood looks sexy. Personally i buy cars to drive them.

11-15-2006, 06:01 PM	#46 (permalink)
mugens2k Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	it takes in air to spin the pulley, it does compress but not alot, i was refering to the engine compressing not the supercharger compression

11-16-2006, 02:22 PM	#48 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	hehe I chose not to go in to detail about supercharging and turbo charging because of that.

11-16-2006, 03:24 PM	#50 (permalink)
mugens2k Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	yeah boy yeah

11-17-2006, 07:28 AM	#52 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	Well why did you say hot gasses? What is the benefit of the gasses being hot? Is this why its best to make a compact equal length manifold that wont disipate heat well for turbos? Lol Someone is learning something from this useless thread damnit lets get some facts going on up in here

11-17-2006, 01:04 PM	#56 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	I dont think the video was in the turbocharged car when they were close you heard all kindsa wastegate when they were far apart you couldnt hear it.

11-18-2006, 12:13 AM	#60 (permalink)
chemical Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 100	damm i guess this other thread i started is going good lolz. lates

11-19-2006, 03:24 PM	#63 (permalink)
chemical Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 100	yeah thaTS koo as long as you know that your funny looking

11-19-2006, 03:34 PM	#64 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	lol you guys are awesome

11-21-2006, 09:33 PM	#66 (permalink)
pecetrn Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 31	come on guys; don't get personal here. We are all here to waste time and RELAX. So get the stick out of you assses and upshift already; squash it.

11-22-2006, 06:49 AM	#67 (permalink)
karnito Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 253	hey marlins. saw you on s2kca. pecetrn; like any thread. it's going to start really strong then slowly die out as time goes. But you are right; we are here for the car But we'd had a little fun with mugen though __________________ [HAD an 00 GReddy S2K] [06 Porsche Carrera]

11-22-2006, 09:25 AM	#68 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,694	I am on all the S2000 sites, at least the ones I know about. Always the same screen name. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

12-20-2006, 10:07 PM	#69 (permalink)
abe_fshr Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 15	whats the maximum amount of HP sombody got out of a stock engine with forced induction? and has anybody ever heard of a S2000 beating a Ferrari? i think its theoretically possible

12-21-2006, 09:12 AM	#70 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	are you being serious? i could make a festiva smoke one

12-21-2006, 12:47 PM	#71 (permalink)
abe_fshr Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 15	what i meant to ask was has anybody seen it happen? specifically a 360 or a F430

12-21-2006, 01:11 PM	#72 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	in what way quarter mile or handling?

02-25-2007, 09:31 PM	#73 (permalink)
lovefabS2k Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	wow, i really dont think many of the people in here know ANYTHING about motors or cars or the potential of S2000's or any car for the matter... brand names dont mean anything like dude said... you can take a festiva and rape lambo and ferrari's

02-25-2007, 11:34 PM	#74 (permalink)
abe_fshr Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 15	i already knew it its possible, everybody knows its possible, but what i was asking was has anybody seen it happen? not if u can make a festiva toast a ferrari, im sure you are fully capable of doing that, plus i wasnt talking about a drag race, i meant on a track with turns

02-26-2007, 06:47 AM	#75 (permalink)
lovefabS2k Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	Well... i know its possible in a drag race, never seen it though, and i Have seen an S2 beat a lambo anf ferrari, go to youtube and look at some of the videos, i would go get the link... but im too lazy... its an actualy automotive tv show so its def legit.

03-04-2007, 11:52 PM	#76 (permalink)
Silver_06_S2k Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 19	Wow, ok. Turbocharger = uses SPENT exhaust gas to compress air and force it into your intake tract. I mean its probably pretty hot, but thats irrelevant. The exhaust has to spool up, hence the turbo lag. Supercharger = is belt driven, does exactly the same thing, but since its belt driven its always "on" so to speak, there is no spooling. The benefits of a turbo are that it can usually produce higher PSI, depending on the size of the turbo, which means more power. The benefits of the supercharger is its always on tap, since its belt driven. Both do exactly the same thing, compress the air coming into your engine therefore making your engine (a giant vacuum) work more efficiently. I'm new to this car, so im not sure which is more efficient but man, whatever that black S2k had in the video that was posted, I want!

03-05-2007, 01:49 PM	#77 (permalink)
Cosmo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego Area Posts: 22	Supercharging vs Turbocharging Hey all, Does anyone have torque and hp gains on the SC vs TC quandry? I know Comptec states 340 hp at the flywheel in their adverts. Has anyone of you lads put your SC'd or TC'd S2K's on the dyno to really see what your gains are? Also the only SC I have been able to locate is the Comptec or Vortech Snail type SC. Does noone make a traditional roots-type blower for our auto's Cosmo 02 S2K 94 Triumph Bonneville America 87 Jaguar XJ6

03-05-2007, 05:20 PM	#78 (permalink)
MattG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 353	No traditional roots type blower available in a kit for our car just yet. A few people have tried to make one, but none have so far come to market. Jackson Racing are working on one at the moment. Typically the roots type blower does not provide enough at the top of the rev range.

03-18-2007, 12:57 AM	#79 (permalink)
Silver_06_S2k Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 19	I think i've decided on turbo as my choice for boost. Anyone know what the best kit, and anyone know of any good wrench shops in southern cali that will install?

03-20-2007, 11:59 PM	#80 (permalink)
JR8TED Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4	blow off valve in a supercharge huh didnt know that. im new to the mod scene. So where can u get these blow off valves?

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
comptech supercharger vs ultimate racing turbo	lilken	All Other Honda S2000 Related Discussions	5	02-25-2007 09:53 PM
supercharger	s2000_vtec_mike	All Other Honda S2000 Related Discussions	1	01-01-2005 03:39 PM
comptech supercharger vs. UR Turbo Kit	sooner71085	All Other Honda S2000 Related Discussions	4	04-01-2004 07:25 PM
Supercharger or Turbo & Suspension	jdms2000racer	All Other Honda S2000 Related Discussions	3	07-09-2003 03:24 PM