Vortech Supercharger or NOT!!!

mgm · 09-13-2007, 05:26 AM

Hi ALL,

I am fairly new here and have only had my car about 3 months. I've put about 2500 miles on it so far. So far I love the car and was everything I expected from a Honda built car which is the reason I went with the S to begin with.

But there is one thing....I'm use to a V8 (last sports car was a '94 Z28 6 speed) and was seriously thinking of trading it for a C5 Z06 Corvette. Thing is the Vette is fast but just is not built as good as the S plus I love the power convertilble top. With that said I'm thinking of having a very reputable local Vortech dealer (for 20 years) install the after cooler kit.

I do not plan on racing the car or powershifting or doing crazy burn outs. I just want to feel more power when I drive but I'm sure I will open it up from time to time. The dealer told me a turn key install with no headaches. I have a bunch of questions which I'm hoping you guys can help.

1. Will the car still be reasonably reliable? It is NOT my DD.
2. Will the car run fine without a tune and make good horsepower?
(I plan on having them change the transmission and rear end with Redline synthetic fluid).
3. I also plan on having them do a cat-back exhaust. Does anyone have the stock exhaust with this kit and how much does it hamper performance?

Thanks, Mark.

gomarlins3 · 09-13-2007, 02:22 PM

Both the CT and VT systems are designed to be used with the OEM exhaust, so no worries there.

Both the CT and VT are designed as a plug and play system, no tune neccesary. The VT does have to have the oil pan tapped vs. the CT that goes right off of the oil outlet plug, but that's a thing for your installer, not you.

You will feel VERY little difference between stock and SCed until after VTEC. Both the SC and VT system are belt driven off of the crank and need the RPMs to spool up. After VTEC though, you better hang on.

Reliability is no problem unless you abuse the car. That can be said about any car I guess. There are many S2000's that have SC's and have many trouble frees miles on them. I have had mine for over a year with autoX's and track days and have had no problems that were not self induced.

Any other questions, just ask.

mgm · 09-14-2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomarlins3

Both the CT and VT systems are designed to be used with the OEM exhaust, so no worries there.

Both the CT and VT are designed as a plug and play system, no tune neccesary. The VT does have to have the oil pan tapped vs. the CT that goes right off of the oil outlet plug, but that's a thing for your installer, not you.

You will feel VERY little difference between stock and SCed until after VTEC. Both the SC and VT system are belt driven off of the crank and need the RPMs to spool up. After VTEC though, you better hang on.

Reliability is no problem unless you abuse the car. That can be said about any car I guess. There are many S2000's that have SC's and have many trouble frees miles on them. I have had mine for over a year with autoX's and track days and have had no problems that were not self induced.

Any other questions, just ask.

Thanks gomarlins3 a bunch this is very straightforward and helpful!!! I wish they had designed a smaller supercharger that spooled up quicker to give the car more low end as the top end already is amazing for a 2.0 liter engine.

Yah, looking at the stock exhaust the other day it looks pretty good with mandrel bent piping. The system he has recommended to me is $1,500 but says will be pretty quiet, which is what I want.

I've heard on some other forums that Vortech customer service sucks but in my case I really like the installer and he will be dealing with them directly not me. He's been working with them for 20 years. I just kind of wish he was a Comptech dealer/installer instead but anyways.

Thanks again, this will help me in making my decision.

Java Junky · 09-14-2007, 06:02 AM

Stewie's power's a totally different animal, n' t's a real adjustment switchin' over from the bottomless pit'a low-end provided by the small n' big block V-8s that alot of us have teethed on M.
From what I've read up on it (I'm still only in the thinkin' stage a goin' supercharger), both the turbo n' the huffer definitely escalate the power, but don't really change the power curve enough to make the kind'a low-end difference that'd really be nice. So I'm gettin' the impression that even with the F.I. the bottom-end's gonna still be on the weak side for a hard-core V-8er.
But, for the ability to carve corners that Stewie provides . . I'd peddle the li'l bugger.
Be well.
Java

gomarlins3 · 09-14-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Java Junky

(I'm still only in the thinkin' stage a goin' supercharger),
Java

WHAT?!?!?!?! I never thought I would see the day!!!

As for the bottom end, I switched rear gears from the OEM 4.10 to 4.77's. That is a 16% improvement. In other words, everything happens 16% faster.

s2000isu · 09-14-2007, 09:07 PM

I just bought a vortech java now its your turn so we can go cruising.

Java Junky · 09-15-2007, 06:59 AM

Yeah guys. whut kin I say?
For all the back-n'-forth I've done with Go n' Halo n' the rest'a the huffer crowd . . maybe I jus' lacked the seat-time that they had to see the wisdom of goin' F.I. Golly-whillikers fellers . . ain't had much experience with this whole "bein'-wrong" thing. (N' before I get . . what izzitt again? "Flamed"? That was pure sarcasm guys. Hell! Jus' ask Mrs. Java: I'm always wrong)
Well, it appears that I've accumulated the required seat-time 'cause ithe only way Stewie's stayin'z'iff I can get at least some reasonable low-end oud'a 'er. Not V-8 low-end mind you, reasonable low-end.
Go, those 4.77s . . how badly do they effect your hi-way use? 'Think they'd be able to still allow reasonable use as a daily driver with quite a bit'a hi-way miles?
ISU, I'm always out there cruisin'. Jus' say the word pal. Likely'z not we've already crossed paths n' not even noticed.
Be well all.
Java

gomarlins3 · 09-15-2007, 10:42 PM

If you want to fell what it is like on the highway, drive in 5th gear instead of 6th. I am at about 4200 RPM's at 65 miles per hour.

Java Junky · 09-16-2007, 06:23 AM

Thanks again. I'm gonna be spendin' all my hiway time as you suggested to see if it's somethin' I can live with. That n' the huffer? Oh sweet mama! Am I gonna be gettin' in trouble now!

09-13-2007, 05:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
mgm Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ct. Posts: 42	Vortech Supercharger or NOT!!! Hi ALL, I am fairly new here and have only had my car about 3 months. I've put about 2500 miles on it so far. So far I love the car and was everything I expected from a Honda built car which is the reason I went with the S to begin with. But there is one thing....I'm use to a V8 (last sports car was a '94 Z28 6 speed) and was seriously thinking of trading it for a C5 Z06 Corvette. Thing is the Vette is fast but just is not built as good as the S plus I love the power convertilble top. With that said I'm thinking of having a very reputable local Vortech dealer (for 20 years) install the after cooler kit. I do not plan on racing the car or powershifting or doing crazy burn outs. I just want to feel more power when I drive but I'm sure I will open it up from time to time. The dealer told me a turn key install with no headaches. I have a bunch of questions which I'm hoping you guys can help. 1. Will the car still be reasonably reliable? It is NOT my DD. 2. Will the car run fine without a tune and make good horsepower? (I plan on having them change the transmission and rear end with Redline synthetic fluid). 3. I also plan on having them do a cat-back exhaust. Does anyone have the stock exhaust with this kit and how much does it hamper performance? Thanks, Mark. __________________ '02 S - Sebring Silver/Black purchased 05/07 w/14k miles. OEM front and side spoilers. JDM side marker lights. Royal Purple. NRG Chrome hood dampers. Vortech SC. ASM Exhaust. Dyno: 301rwhp & 188 lb/ft torque.

09-14-2007, 06:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,312	Stewie's power's a totally different animal, n' t's a real adjustment switchin' over from the bottomless pit'a low-end provided by the small n' big block V-8s that alot of us have teethed on M. From what I've read up on it (I'm still only in the thinkin' stage a goin' supercharger), both the turbo n' the huffer definitely escalate the power, but don't really change the power curve enough to make the kind'a low-end difference that'd really be nice. So I'm gettin' the impression that even with the F.I. the bottom-end's gonna still be on the weak side for a hard-core V-8er. But, for the ability to carve corners that Stewie provides . . I'd peddle the li'l bugger. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room. Last edited by Java Junky : 09-14-2007 at 07:16 AM.

09-15-2007, 06:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,312	Yeah guys. whut kin I say? For all the back-n'-forth I've done with Go n' Halo n' the rest'a the huffer crowd . . maybe I jus' lacked the seat-time that they had to see the wisdom of goin' F.I. Golly-whillikers fellers . . ain't had much experience with this whole "bein'-wrong" thing. (N' before I get . . what izzitt again? "Flamed"? That was pure sarcasm guys. Hell! Jus' ask Mrs. Java: I'm *always* wrong) Well, it appears that I've accumulated the required seat-time 'cause ithe only way Stewie's stayin'z'iff I can get at least *some* reasonable low-end oud'a 'er. Not V-8 low-end mind you, *reasonable* low-end. Go, those 4.77s . . how badly do they effect your hi-way use? 'Think they'd be able to still allow reasonable use as a daily driver with quite a bit'a hi-way miles? ISU, I'm *always* out there cruisin'. Jus' say the word pal. Likely'z not we've already crossed paths n' not even noticed. Be well all. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room. Last edited by Java Junky : 09-15-2007 at 11:45 AM.

09-16-2007, 06:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,312	Thanks again. I'm gonna be spendin' all my hiway time as you suggested to see if it's somethin' I can live with. That n' the huffer? Oh sweet mama! Am I gonna be gettin' in trouble now! __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

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09-13-2007, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,493	Both the CT and VT systems are designed to be used with the OEM exhaust, so no worries there. Both the CT and VT are designed as a plug and play system, no tune neccesary. The VT does have to have the oil pan tapped vs. the CT that goes right off of the oil outlet plug, but that's a thing for your installer, not you. You will feel VERY little difference between stock and SCed until after VTEC. Both the SC and VT system are belt driven off of the crank and need the RPMs to spool up. After VTEC though, you better hang on. Reliability is no problem unless you abuse the car. That can be said about any car I guess. There are many S2000's that have SC's and have many trouble frees miles on them. I have had mine for over a year with autoX's and track days and have had no problems that were not self induced. Any other questions, just ask.

09-14-2007, 09:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,111	I just bought a vortech java now its your turn so we can go cruising.

09-15-2007, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,493	If you want to fell what it is like on the highway, drive in 5th gear instead of 6th. I am at about 4200 RPM's at 65 miles per hour.