Supercharger

SilverS2K422 · 12-03-2007, 11:11 PM

Im lookin to supercharge my car(less stress on the than turbo i heard). Anyone here have there s2k supercharged? What total price (supercharger, installation, other) am i looking at? What kinda power gain is there?

s2000isu · 12-05-2007, 01:26 PM

I have one. Depends new or used. I installed myself their websites talk about power gains.

MattG · 12-05-2007, 05:04 PM

Many factors determine the HP gains and cost. For example:
What type of supercharger?
Aftercooled?
What exhaust/intake?
What size injectors?
What type of ECU?
Upgrade fuel pump?
Self install?

As 2000ISU said I suggest you find a manufacturer (eg Vortech) and check their website for details.

gomarlins3 · 12-05-2007, 08:19 PM

CT SC w/AC was $4000 new, but I found a great deal.

Installed along with my new suspension for $1000.

WHP gained 109.

SilverS2K422 · 12-06-2007, 12:23 AM

Nice, the 109 hp gaine, would you say its a huge difference from stock. What cars would it compete with?

gomarlins3 · 12-06-2007, 11:45 AM

Yes, it's a big jump from stock. As for what it would compete with, I have no idea since I do not race people.

SilverS2K422 · 12-06-2007, 01:18 PM

Do you AutoX or somthin?

cleetuss · 12-06-2007, 01:31 PM

i had a vortech supercharger and new exaust installed for about 9 grand.
went from 180 hp at the wheels to 310. definitely worth it!!!!!!

gomarlins3 · 12-07-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverS2K422

Do you AutoX or somthin?

Yes and yes. AutoX's and track days.

SilverS2K422 · 12-08-2007, 12:31 AM

the nine grand, that kind of an issue?

s2000isu · 12-08-2007, 07:33 AM

ya 9 grand seems really expensive. 6 grand for the sc 1 grand for an exhaust and 2 grand for install eep.

gomarlins3 · 12-08-2007, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleetuss

i had a vortech supercharger and new exaust installed for about 9 grand.

Dang that's a lot of money for a SC and exhaust.

SilverS2K422 · 12-09-2007, 11:34 PM

2 grand to install a bolt on supercharger???

RoCKet · 12-10-2007, 02:37 PM

Dude ouch bro thats not a good price man

SilverS2K422 · 12-11-2007, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleetuss

i had a vortech supercharger and new exaust installed for about 9 grand.
went from 180 hp at the wheels to 310. definitely worth it!!!!!!

180hp??? do you have a civic or somthin? where did you pay nine grand at??

SilverS2K422 · 12-11-2007, 12:50 AM

wait. Sorry i see it says at the wheels, but i thought s2k had 240somthin, it drops 80hp when you look at it this way???

Jadranko · 12-11-2007, 02:06 PM

the car has 198 whp I dino it stock. vortec superharger goes for about 4500-5000 new to install it is between 1500-2500 and u will need a new exhaust s that is around 700 so it is around 8000 I know that is why I can't afford it either maybe u can find one cheaper but good luck on one u gain around 112whp and 108 torque so u get 310 lie the other guy said. with the car beeing so light if u get taction u can beat a v8 with 400-450 easy. hope this helps

Jadranko · 12-11-2007, 02:06 PM

hp gai is without exhaust.

SilverS2K422 · 12-11-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadranko

the car has 198 whp I dino it stock. vortec superharger goes for about 4500-5000 new to install it is between 1500-2500 and u will need a new exhaust s that is around 700 so it is around 8000 I know that is why I can't afford it either maybe u can find one cheaper but good luck on one u gain around 112whp and 108 torque so u get 310 lie the other guy said. with the car beeing so light if u get taction u can beat a v8 with 400-450 easy. hope this helps

why so much for the install??

Jadranko · 12-12-2007, 03:34 PM

it takes 15 hurs min to insall it if everything fits 100 / hour 1500.

SilverS2K422 · 12-12-2007, 09:11 PM

oh i guess that makes sense.

Tee-Dub · 12-18-2007, 10:17 PM

I don't think an experienced tuner would require 15hrs to install a SC set up. Maybe including dyno and set up time, but even for that 15 hours seems like an awfull lot. I've heard more like 8hrs for a pro shop to install a SC kit.

SilverS2K422 · 12-19-2007, 03:53 PM

yea that sounds more like it.

gomarlins3 · 12-19-2007, 06:33 PM

15 hours is ridiculous. They obviously do not know what they are doing. There is no dyno needed. You can check the AFR if you want, but if they install it correctly and you do not mess with the exhaust, it will be fine.

bobby2002s2k. · 12-20-2007, 12:21 PM

I thought there was guide lines that regulated how much time a shop is given to word on certain projects, some kinda check and balance? To keep you from getting ripped off. Maybe this doesn't apply to a SC kit being put on a car?

chazdawg35 · 12-20-2007, 07:11 PM

HEY DUDES MANY SHOPS GO BY A LABOR GUIDE LIKE ALLDATA!BUT I SEEN SOME HIGH PRICE MECHANIC'S THAT CHARGE FOR THEIR EXPERIENCE.I TRY DO DO ALL I CAN MYSELF.CAN'T WAIT TIL I GET THE CASH TO BUY AND INSTALL ONE.

s2ksuzuka · 01-30-2008, 03:26 AM

I hope this helps give a complete picture.This is from my system with prices I have seen (not necessarily the prices i paid). Mine cost a bit more than the low number excluding the install since I installed it myself.

346.1 whp

Keep a few things in mind when considering the total price of an SC. It goes far beyond the cost of the blower kit. The following should give you an idea. If you buy a used kit, you will probably need to add some parts, and run the risk of needing service soon. I made that mistake, and within 200 miles of the install, it had to go back to Vortech...add 800.00

if you use my guide on the low side its 6950.00 not including gauges and problems that may arise. I used the 500.00 for tuning and I think that is very low

1. sc kit 3500-5500 depending on new or used
2. Injectors- if you want higher gains this is necessary 200-300
3. fuel management again higher gains require this- aem ems 1500-1700
4. installation- not for the faint at heart. I installed min myself- it's a big freaking job 1000-1500 from a shop
5. Tunning- 500-1000 depending on the shop and is critical so the car doesn't blow up
6. Gauges- you will want to know things like boost pressure, oil pressure (I still can't believe a car that revs to 9k doesn't come with an oil gauge) 500-1500 depending on where you want to be. I used the AEM serial Gauges 19 functions poer gauge add sensors hook it up to the EMS and you are in business. very clean install and great info a good deal on them is 270.00 each plus the sensors

Mitch

Yellow_AP1 · 02-11-2008, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2ksuzuka

I hope this helps give a complete picture.This is from my system with prices I have seen (not necessarily the prices i paid). Mine cost a bit more than the low number excluding the install since I installed it myself.

346.1 whp

Keep a few things in mind when considering the total price of an SC. It goes far beyond the cost of the blower kit. The following should give you an idea. If you buy a used kit, you will probably need to add some parts, and run the risk of needing service soon. I made that mistake, and within 200 miles of the install, it had to go back to Vortech...add 800.00

if you use my guide on the low side its 6950.00 not including gauges and problems that may arise. I used the 500.00 for tuning and I think that is very low

1. sc kit 3500-5500 depending on new or used
2. Injectors- if you want higher gains this is necessary 200-300
3. fuel management again higher gains require this- aem ems 1500-1700
4. installation- not for the faint at heart. I installed min myself- it's a big freaking job 1000-1500 from a shop
5. Tunning- 500-1000 depending on the shop and is critical so the car doesn't blow up
6. Gauges- you will want to know things like boost pressure, oil pressure (I still can't believe a car that revs to 9k doesn't come with an oil gauge) 500-1500 depending on where you want to be. I used the AEM serial Gauges 19 functions poer gauge add sensors hook it up to the EMS and you are in business. very clean install and great info a good deal on them is 270.00 each plus the sensors

Mitch

any videos?

12-03-2007, 11:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	Supercharger Im lookin to supercharge my car(less stress on the than turbo i heard). Anyone here have there s2k supercharged? What total price (supercharger, installation, other) am i looking at? What kinda power gain is there?

12-05-2007, 01:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 982	I have one. Depends new or used. I installed myself their websites talk about power gains. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

12-05-2007, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,226	CT SC w/AC was $4000 new, but I found a great deal. Installed along with my new suspension for $1000. WHP gained 109. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

12-06-2007, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,226	Yes, it's a big jump from stock. As for what it would compete with, I have no idea since I do not race people. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

12-06-2007, 01:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
cleetuss Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2	vortech supercharger i had a vortech supercharger and new exaust installed for about 9 grand. went from 180 hp at the wheels to 310. definitely worth it!!!!!!

12-05-2007, 05:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
MattG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 363	Many factors determine the HP gains and cost. For example: What type of supercharger? Aftercooled? What exhaust/intake? What size injectors? What type of ECU? Upgrade fuel pump? Self install? As 2000ISU said I suggest you find a manufacturer (eg Vortech) and check their website for details.

12-06-2007, 12:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	Nice, the 109 hp gaine, would you say its a huge difference from stock. What cars would it compete with?

12-06-2007, 01:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	Do you AutoX or somthin?

12-08-2007, 12:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	the nine grand, that kind of an issue?

12-08-2007, 07:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 982	ya 9 grand seems really expensive. 6 grand for the sc 1 grand for an exhaust and 2 grand for install eep. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

12-09-2007, 11:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	2 grand to install a bolt on supercharger???

12-10-2007, 02:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
RoCKet Road Ripper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Where ever there is a twisty! Posts: 257	Dude ouch bro thats not a good price man __________________ As i drive through the valley of death i shall fear no evil, for none of them can catch me anyways! Say i cant do it.......Now watch me walk on water Mods: Eagle f1's, Mugen Test Pipe, Typhoon complete CAI, Mio Gps/ Modifry Dash Bracket, Jvc Single din touchscreen head unit, JL audio 12" Comp, Kicker800 watt amp.

12-11-2007, 12:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	wait. Sorry i see it says at the wheels, but i thought s2k had 240somthin, it drops 80hp when you look at it this way???

12-11-2007, 02:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jadranko honda man Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 56	the car has 198 whp I dino it stock. vortec superharger goes for about 4500-5000 new to install it is between 1500-2500 and u will need a new exhaust s that is around 700 so it is around 8000 I know that is why I can't afford it either maybe u can find one cheaper but good luck on one u gain around 112whp and 108 torque so u get 310 lie the other guy said. with the car beeing so light if u get taction u can beat a v8 with 400-450 easy. hope this helps

12-11-2007, 02:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jadranko honda man Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 56	hp gai is without exhaust.

12-12-2007, 03:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jadranko honda man Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 56	it takes 15 hurs min to insall it if everything fits 100 / hour 1500.

12-12-2007, 09:11 PM	#21 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	oh i guess that makes sense.

12-18-2007, 10:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
Tee-Dub Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 64	I don't think an experienced tuner would require 15hrs to install a SC set up. Maybe including dyno and set up time, but even for that 15 hours seems like an awfull lot. I've heard more like 8hrs for a pro shop to install a SC kit.

12-19-2007, 03:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 511	yea that sounds more like it.

12-19-2007, 06:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,226	15 hours is ridiculous. They obviously do not know what they are doing. There is no dyno needed. You can check the AFR if you want, but if they install it correctly and you do not mess with the exhaust, it will be fine. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

12-20-2007, 12:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
bobby2002s2k. S2K 4 life!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 258	I thought there was guide lines that regulated how much time a shop is given to word on certain projects, some kinda check and balance? To keep you from getting ripped off. Maybe this doesn't apply to a SC kit being put on a car? __________________ ITs been over a year and i still cant keep my foot off the floor!

12-20-2007, 07:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 296	HEY DUDES MANY SHOPS GO BY A LABOR GUIDE LIKE ALLDATA!BUT I SEEN SOME HIGH PRICE MECHANIC'S THAT CHARGE FOR THEIR EXPERIENCE.I TRY DO DO ALL I CAN MYSELF.CAN'T WAIT TIL I GET THE CASH TO BUY AND INSTALL ONE.