what kind of Hp are these motors capable of making

Blade2 · 08-10-2008, 03:27 PM

How much Hp at what boost can be safely made on a stock S2000 motor? What about a built motor?

J'sS2K · 08-10-2008, 03:43 PM

N/A is the safest...LOL

Blade2 · 08-10-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J'sS2K

N/A is the safest...LOL

The sad thing is your right I just gotta have that boost

D1sclaimer · 08-10-2008, 06:36 PM

I think about 400whp you're gonna want to get a inlinepro 3mm headgasket. It'll lower the compression so you can up the boost.

A bunch of people have almost 500whp without the gasket, but thats really pushing it.

TheCarGuy2021 · 08-10-2008, 06:42 PM

InlinePro is making ~550whp on a daily driven car with a stock engine with a 3mm head gasket.

abms2k · 08-19-2008, 10:41 AM

theres a guy out in bahrain who rebuilt motor makes about 700 hp....i think it was stroked to 2.4 and then he turboed the crap out of it....but i dunno why he did it.

Java Junky · 08-19-2008, 10:50 AM

'Cause'izz camel died?

Vezna31 · 08-19-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Java Junky

'Cause'izz camel died?

LOL

Gilgothdae · 08-19-2008, 11:46 AM

I'd definitely like to see some good numbers for this question. but if its mostly used for Auto-x then I'm not sure 700 would make sense hehe

abms2k · 08-19-2008, 12:35 PM

2.1 F20C...HKS T04Z TURBO trust intercooler...amd some other...supposedly the guy wanted the most powerful s2k in the world...i dunno about that..but hes spent around $150k on the car..i wish i could post a link but i have the details in a mag and cant find it newhere on the net....but funnily the reason why he wanted to do so is open to speculation...

DJJSR · 08-19-2008, 12:49 PM

Just for comparison..........

A top Fuel dragster makes about 7000 hp from 500 cubic inches (that's about 8 liters). So if you took a 2 liter engine and built it the same way, you could theoretically get about 1750 hp. While this may be possible, the life of that motor would be shorter than your @#!* in a cold swimming pool.

Pretty much anything you do to the stock Honda configuration to get a significant horsepower gain is going to have an effect on engine life. The guy that cranks a blower up to get 700 hp probably knows that he's hammering the rotating assembly but doesn't need for it to go 100,000 miles. It's a matter of what are you going to do with the motor vs how long do you want it to last.

"If ya wanna dance, ya gotta pay the fiddler".

Gilgothdae · 08-19-2008, 01:05 PM

well obviously those big motors are shorter life spans than ours. but I'd think having the f20 @ 350 or 450 wouldn't screw it ridiculously. i'm not thinking of 450 for a daily driver but it'd be nice to have a garaged one sitting at around them numbers

Java Junky · 08-19-2008, 01:09 PM

'Less'a'course, yuh get some'a those highly-touted magic beanz off'a ebay ('Believe they also insure against your @#!* goin' wee-wee-wee all'a way home in a cold swimming pool.).
Ad don't say nothin' 'bout no fiddlerz either.

Swingle1 · 08-19-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJSR

Just for comparison..........

A top Fuel dragster makes about 7000 hp from 500 cubic inches (that's about 8 liters). So if you took a 2 liter engine and built it the same way, you could theoretically get about 1750 hp. While this may be possible, the life of that motor would be shorter than your @#!* in a cold swimming pool.

Pretty much anything you do to the stock Honda configuration to get a significant horsepower gain is going to have an effect on engine life. The guy that cranks a blower up to get 700 hp probably knows that he's hammering the rotating assembly but doesn't need for it to go 100,000 miles. It's a matter of what are you going to do with the motor vs how long do you want it to last.

"If ya wanna dance, ya gotta pay the fiddler".

Words of wisdom, Don. But it IS a sight to behold, watching a crew tear down and rebuild an engine in an hour and fifteen minutes-- just get her through the next quarter mile.

DJJSR · 08-19-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swingle1

Words of wisdom, Don. But it IS a sight to behold, watching a crew tear down and rebuild an engine in an hour and fifteen minutes-- just get her through the next quarter mile.

Organized chaos. And the run is like unleashing armageddon. I love it.

Sideways · 08-22-2008, 01:21 PM

Mase put a big turbo on a high mileage factory engine and tuned it to over 600 rwhp on race gas.

Vezna31 · 08-22-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideways

Mase put a big turbo on a high mileage factory engine and tuned it to over 600 rwhp on race gas.

Phil, how long did the engine last?

BTW...did you sell that tranny yet?

TheCarGuy2021 · 08-22-2008, 01:52 PM

Holy cow, Phil's on the board!?

dezignpro04 · 08-22-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideways

Mase put a big turbo on a high mileage factory engine and tuned it to over 600 rwhp on race gas.

OMG!! Phill. Whats up man? How is Stewie?

Sideways · 08-29-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vezna31

Phil, how long did the engine last?

BTW...did you sell that tranny yet?

The engine was over 100,000 miles before the turbo. He did hundreds of dyno pulls trying to blow it. They gave up, pulled the engine and put it in another car. The owner now has a nice Laskey built engine with the turbo.

I sold one tranny and have another for sale.

Gilgothdae · 09-02-2008, 11:48 AM

Very comforting to hear that our engines could do that!

sbrodacz · 02-05-2009, 09:59 PM

With a 3mm head gasket and retainers the motor can handle 700hp plus

TheCarGuy2021 · 02-05-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sbrodacz

With a 3mm head gasket and retainers the motor can handle 700hp plus

Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

sbrodacz · 02-05-2009, 10:20 PM

^ it's been proven...

TheCarGuy2021 · 02-05-2009, 10:29 PM

It's also been proven that they can blow up at 300whp.

sbrodacz · 02-06-2009, 08:24 AM

It's also in the tune. I'm sure that plays the biggest part in it.

turbosix · 02-06-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCarGuy2021

Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

kutsujula is hit 701rwhp on an untouched motor with 52k on it, we've talked about this.

TheCarGuy2021 · 02-06-2009, 02:34 PM

There's a difference between building an engine for street/track driving and being reliable as compared to "let's see how much we can ram through this before it blows up on the dyno!" Yes, it is extremely impressive that it didn't blow up at 701whp, but will it last?

I'm not trying to pull any feathers, but you can't simply more than triple the output of a stock engine and expect it to hold.

turbosix · 02-06-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCarGuy2021

There's a difference between building an engine for street/track driving and being reliable as compared to "let's see how much we can ram through this before it blows up on the dyno!" Yes, it is extremely impressive that it didn't blow up at 701whp, but will it last?

I'm not trying to pull any feathers, but you can't simply more than triple the output of a stock engine and expect it to hold.

he did over 20 pulls on the dyno at T1R here in rowlett, tx then drove it home to ohio or wherever he lives and the thing is running fine. i'm sure it will blow up eventually, but then again most cars with that much power that are beat on day in and day out break, f20 or not.

700 is entirely too much for the street but if a bone stock motor can hold 20 dyno pulls at that power that means its gonna be pretty stout...

the real argument here is: if you have to ask this question you dont need to know

turbosix · 02-06-2009, 02:41 PM

oh, fwiw the trans broke before his block did...

08-10-2008, 03:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blade2 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2	what kind of Hp are these motors capable of making How much Hp at what boost can be safely made on a stock S2000 motor? What about a built motor?

08-10-2008, 03:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
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08-19-2008, 12:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,886	Just for comparison.......... A top Fuel dragster makes about 7000 hp from 500 cubic inches (that's about 8 liters). So if you took a 2 liter engine and built it the same way, you could theoretically get about 1750 hp. While this may be possible, the life of that motor would be shorter than your @#!* in a cold swimming pool. Pretty much anything you do to the stock Honda configuration to get a significant horsepower gain is going to have an effect on engine life. The guy that cranks a blower up to get 700 hp probably knows that he's hammering the rotating assembly but doesn't need for it to go 100,000 miles. It's a matter of what are you going to do with the motor vs how long do you want it to last. "If ya wanna dance, ya gotta pay the fiddler". __________________ Don

08-19-2008, 01:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 7,056	'Less'a'course, yuh get some'a those highly-touted magic beanz off'a ebay ('Believe they also insure against your @#!* goin' wee-wee-wee all'a way home in a cold swimming pool.). Ad don't say nothin' 'bout no fiddlerz either. __________________ In life-long pursuit'a datt mos' myt'ic'a beasts: da ever-elusive perfect corna. Well . . . datt, r' at leas' a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

08-10-2008, 06:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Car Dummy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	InlinePro is making ~550whp on a daily driven car with a stock engine with a 3mm head gasket.

08-19-2008, 10:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
abms2k Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11	theres a guy out in bahrain who rebuilt motor makes about 700 hp....i think it was stroked to 2.4 and then he turboed the crap out of it....but i dunno why he did it.

08-19-2008, 11:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
Gilgothdae Better, Faster, Stronger Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 102	I'd definitely like to see some good numbers for this question. but if its mostly used for Auto-x then I'm not sure 700 would make sense hehe

08-19-2008, 12:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
abms2k Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11	2.1 F20C...HKS T04Z TURBO trust intercooler...amd some other...supposedly the guy wanted the most powerful s2k in the world...i dunno about that..but hes spent around $150k on the car..i wish i could post a link but i have the details in a mag and cant find it newhere on the net....but funnily the reason why he wanted to do so is open to speculation...

08-19-2008, 01:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gilgothdae Better, Faster, Stronger Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 102	well obviously those big motors are shorter life spans than ours. but I'd think having the f20 @ 350 or 450 wouldn't screw it ridiculously. i'm not thinking of 450 for a daily driver but it'd be nice to have a garaged one sitting at around them numbers

08-22-2008, 01:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sideways Fastest S2000 in the West Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 24	Mase put a big turbo on a high mileage factory engine and tuned it to over 600 rwhp on race gas. __________________ Sideways http://www.streetfire.net/video/0f5a...3e00a75a68.htm 254 rwhp/liter

08-22-2008, 01:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Car Dummy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	Holy cow, Phil's on the board!?

09-02-2008, 11:48 AM	#21 (permalink)
Gilgothdae Better, Faster, Stronger Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 102	Very comforting to hear that our engines could do that!

02-05-2009, 09:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
sbrodacz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 114	With a 3mm head gasket and retainers the motor can handle 700hp plus

02-05-2009, 10:20 PM	#24 (permalink)
sbrodacz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 114	^ it's been proven...

02-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Car Dummy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	It's also been proven that they can blow up at 300whp.

02-06-2009, 08:24 AM	#26 (permalink)
sbrodacz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 114	It's also in the tune. I'm sure that plays the biggest part in it.

02-06-2009, 02:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Car Dummy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	There's a difference between building an engine for street/track driving and being reliable as compared to "let's see how much we can ram through this before it blows up on the dyno!" Yes, it is extremely impressive that it didn't blow up at 701whp, but will it last? I'm not trying to pull any feathers, but you can't simply more than triple the output of a stock engine and expect it to hold.

02-06-2009, 02:41 PM	#30 (permalink)
turbosix S2000.com Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 3,364	oh, fwiw the trans broke before his block did... __________________ turbosix.net 1984 buick regal t-type . 2003 gpw s2000

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