Nitrous!

[SilverS2K422]

Thinking about getting nitrous! Any suggestions? What shot can my car handle with stock internals? Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated!

[playingmilitary]

well i got a nxespress system for sell i had on my car. 10 lb bottle new lines and all jets to go from 35hp to 200hp. its a wet system did really well just i want to go turbo much more usefull on the auto cross track. if your interested pm me it give you a price. oh and i ran a 50 shot. need a new clutch but it was the oem clutch with 65,000 miles on it so oh well.

[D1sclaimer]

Originally Posted by SilverS2K422

Thinking about getting nitrous! Any suggestions? What shot can my car handle with stock internals? Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Stock ECU on stock timing don't run too big of a shot. Im running a .038 jet and my plugs look fine. I've been thinking of running a .040 or a .041 jet. Im gonna hook up my friends wideband before I do that. A few people have been running the .041 jets with no problems, but they also haven't been heating up their bottles for more pressure.

Stock internals are good for alot more than you probably want to go. Theres a guy who went to a turbo setup who was running a 125 direct port shot with an AEM EMS for a while. He dyno'd 335whp.

GET RID OF THE OEM DOUBLE PLATINUM PLUGS FOR NITROUS. Nitrous and platinum plugs don't mix well because platinums heat up too much since they're self cleaning. It'll be more prone to detonation. I'd suggest going with NGK 7173 plugs. They're cheap copper plugs that work great. Gap them at about .035ish. Swap out the plugs after about every 20lbs of nitrous or about 3-4k miles if you're spraying.

If you're going wet, get a window switch for sure. Set it up so you don't spray before 4,000rpms and you don't spray over 8,900rpms.

I won't rant about my feelings about wet vs dry. Too many uninformed people and too many arguments from it.

If you have anymore questions, post them up and I can help you.

[SilverS2K422]

D1sclaimer O O tell me more! I don't really know about injectors and what the .038 and .040 stuff. you tell me what you think is better, wet or dry? i just want some cheap power. i cant afford a turbo. how much stress will this put on my car i have 76K miles on it

[D1sclaimer]

Originally Posted by SilverS2K422

D1sclaimer O O tell me more! I don't really know about injectors and what the .038 and .040 stuff. you tell me what you think is better, wet or dry? i just want some cheap power. i cant afford a turbo. how much stress will this put on my car i have 76K miles on it

Im still on my stock fuel pump. If I go higher than a 75 shot, I will upgrade it.

.038 and .040 are jet sizes. The bigger the number, the more nitrous will flow for more horsepower. I call my .038 a 70 flywheel shot. Its probably 55-60whp. A .041 jet would be a 75whp shot.

I prefer dry. Let the fuel system take care of the fuel. You won't be pushing the stock system by any means with what I am running. Honda intakes pool up easier than most I've seen. I've seen a couple of B16s on 100 wet shots pool into the intake and have a backfire while testing on the dyno at 7k rpms. Wet kits usually have a small lean spike. Unless you're running a higher shot, the spike will be safe though.

If you go dry, you will need a kit that boosts fuel pressure when you spray so the car knows to add more fuel. This is the concept that most people who are weary about dry kits don't get. Only a couple of companies make kits that do this. Either the NOS 05120 kit or the Edelbrock 71000 kit are my recommendations. Zex makes a dry kit that does this and is easier to install, but I don't recommend it.
http://holley.com/05120NOS.asp-I got mine for 500. Don't know how its advertised as 739.?
http://www.edelbrock.com/sportcompac...univ_dry.shtml

To be perfectly honest, if you're just gonna run up to a 75 shot, wet or dry will work fine. Just with wet, you need the 80 dollar window switch moreso IMO. Many places will try to charge you more for a vehicle specific wet kit. In reality, for all 4 and 6 cylinder kits, its the same thing with different jets. So if you're going wet, a universal 4 cylinder kit will work fine.

I would suggest either a NOS sniper wet kit(same as the regular, just cheapened down a little bit. Its just as safe.)
http://holley.com/07005NOS.asp-NOS must jack up prices on their website cause it should be cheaper than whats advertised
Or a Dynotune wet kit
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=100

Here's some links for more info:

Info on the NOS dry kit which I have. The guy running it hasn't updated it in a while and isn't finished.
http://drynitrous.com/index.html

LS1 Tech's nitrous forum (They have returnless fuel systems so their info on dry nitrous will be different)
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide-10/

Mustang nitrous forum.
http://forums.corral.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=313

General nitrous forum I'm a member on.
http://www.nitrousforum.com

[SilverS2K422]

Thanks for the info, i understand it better now

[nismored]

thats some really good info! This should be a sticky for sure.

Def. read up on everything before you get started. Nitrous is only dangerous when it is in the hands of the unlearned.

a well set up system can maintain reliablility while having nice push button power.

[hammerhead300]

Originally Posted by nismored

thats some really good info! This should be a sticky for sure.

Def. read up on everything before you get started. Nitrous is only dangerous when it is in the hands of the unlearned.

a well set up system can maintain reliablility while having nice push button power.

The way I see it, any form of forced induction can be harmful if it's not set up right and your engine isn't stout enough to handle it. As long as you know what you're doing, I don't see why nitrous would be any more dangerous than any other form of forced induction.

[zeenman1]

up to 80 shot with stock mapping. Make it a little richer the higher the shot you run. after you get some afr's or dyno time you can lean it a little. I like direct port better than the single nozzle.

[S2KCRick]

I dont really know anything about nitrous, except that you push a button and you go faster. So what are the differences between a wet system and a dry system?

Lay it out, what are the pros and cons for each system. Not looking for argument or anything, just the facts. If you want to give an opinion on which is better, im fine with it, just state why and give some facts to back it up.

Thanks.

[turbosix]

dry: nitrous nozzles only - additional fuel is delivered via the stock fuel system, usually by upping fuel pressure at the fuel pressure regulator

wet: nitrous and fuel nozzles - additional fuel is delivered via nozzles connected to solenoids that usually feed off of the stock fuel rail.

[S2KCRick]

so what are the benifits? Is one less labor intensive for installation? Is one "safer" to use, with respect to damaging the engine? Or are the end results going to be the same?

What would you use turbosix?

[turbosix]

Originally Posted by S2KCRick

so what are the benifits? Is one less labor intensive for installation? Is one "safer" to use, with respect to damaging the engine? Or are the end results going to be the same?

What would you use turbosix?

you dont need a wet kit at safe hp levels on s2000s... dry kit hooked up to the fuel pressure regulator is sufficient.

[TegoS2k]

im running on 75 shot and 100 shot of nos ....perfect mix for

75 shot running a lil rich its .43 for nos and .28 for gas

90-100 around there im running rich again 47-49 for nos and a .30 for gas..

i rahter run rich the running exact number...u never know u migjht go dry on gas a bit and pop the motor while running rich its safer at least for me ....worked out.... i did on the 1/8 first time first pull 9.5 ....2.5 60ft and .500 reaction on 45 psi on the tires no nos

[TegoS2k]

2nd pull 9.1 ....2.1 60 ft ....reaction was .204................on 25 psi on the tires no nos still this was last week......


then for the final pass on The 75 shot i ran...................0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

lol broke a b i a tch AXLE drive side snap of the line damnit i have 80k on my S running on stage 4 act and act prolite flywheel

[turbosix]

what were your trap speeds?

[TegoS2k]

well i didnt get to do nitrous which i will be doing this week...they were 80 miles on both of the passes...altho second pass i missed 2nd gear due to wheel hop damnit i will post pink slip tommorrwo

[TegoS2k]

here a vid very dark...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL5fUyClUFs against a 12s turbo hatch...inner side...sprayed of the line...and shifted at 7k every time

[s2kx2]

[chazdawg35]

Hey Tego NICE RUN! So you hae 80k on the car, is the engine stock? I would be more worried that I would blow he engine before the axle.

[D1sclaimer]

Not to sound like an ass, but running 9's in the 1/8th on either a 75 or 100 shot is garbage. Thats equivalent to a 14 second run if you're bench racing.

You're getting knock retard. WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE ME? FUDGE!!!!

I run consistend 8.5's in the 1/8th on all season tires with a .038 nitrous jet.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-S2000...lip-18129.html

OMG I WONDER WHY I RUN FASTER? IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE YOU GET KNOCK RETARD, CAN IT?

Also learn to launch without wheel hop. You won't bust axles.

[D1sclaimer]

Again. Sorry, but its very very very very frustrating when people brag to me about running a 100 shot or something bigger than what I recommend which is what I've tested at the track to be accurate. A .038 nitrous jet.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

[TegoS2k]

Originally Posted by D1sclaimer

Again. Sorry, but its very very very very frustrating when people brag to me about running a 100 shot or something bigger than what I recommend which is what I've tested at the track to be accurate. A .038 nitrous jet.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

disclaimer........if u learn how to read it says that on the first two passes no nos was used....meaning i didnt spray.....im supposed to hit 8.9 no nos....due to wheel hope and a 2nd missed gear i didnt hit 8s.....

[TegoS2k]

Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Hey Tego NICE RUN! So you hae 80k on the car, is the engine stock? I would be more worried that I would blow he engine before the axle.

thanks chaz....yea my engine its stock all ive its intake test pipe and vtec controller...ill be sending my block to cali soon....im getting it sleeved and im buying CP low comp pistons and marley rods or some zhit i believe thats the name


for the record i know how to lunch....not my fault its a brand new track so its very sticky and my tires were on 15psi and i didnt drop the clutch like u think...thanks