exhaust recommendation

skatepozer23 · 10-10-2009, 01:06 PM

Ive been looking at al;ot of exhausts but i havent been able to find one i want.

Definately want dual pipe but my major concern is i do not want to sound anything like a ricer.

I know alot of yall will say if i dont want to sound ricer then why did you buy a honda (or maybe not). I bought the S2000 because its an excellent piece of engineering but have never been a fan of the sound coming out of civics and rsx's, etc.

Is there such an exhaust?

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 01:11 PM

I was afraid of the same thing putting an exhaust on my car I got a T1R dual and was afraid it was ricey... Untill I heard a civic drive by me with an exhaust... that was rice.

skatepozer23 · 10-10-2009, 01:35 PM

also im thinking about keeping the stock exhaust since thats the only one i like but get a test pipe.

Does anyone have a video of stock exhaust with test pipe?

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 01:35 PM

anything after market for Honda is rice. but for an s2000 is just more expensive rice. even oem is rice cause they dont do shit.

theres a post ealier about gretty TC and somthing els but he was gona take pics and and vid of the sound so wait and watch sound clips

JDMzimbo · 10-10-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroS2000

anything after market for Honda is rice. but for an s2000 is just more expensive rice. even oem is rice cause they dont do shit.

theres a post ealier about gretty TC and somthing els but he was gona take pics and and vid of the sound so wait and watch sound clips

I disagree completely. How can oem be rice? just because it doesnt do anything doesnt make it rice.

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 02:38 PM

actually i dont really care if the car is riced or not. I still enjoy looking at ricey cars. but OEM add ons for s2000 is a rip off and doesnt not work. what does a spoiler 2 inces high do?? and they cost like $500.
something that does not work and you put it on is consider rice to me.

nateman101 · 10-10-2009, 03:01 PM

Hey....
I am in the same predicament as you......
I have been researching for over 6 months.....

Its hard to decide....
Keep it stock?
Go with a full invidia (q300 w/ headers)
Comtech
And recently found T1r-em Dyno charts show a 14hp increase and 10lbs of torque increase?
Skunk2 exhaust
ASM dual 60's
Tanabe (quite exhaust)

the only problem is there are no dyno charts..
only for the skunk2 and the t1r.....

Uhhh?????
i talked to a guy at a autocross show.... he said... keep it stock!
learn how to drive the car.... then decide what you want to do...
he said to first thing is to get a sway bar, and some good tires....
he suggested Dunlop star tec's (dry)
I can drive....(learning) and i just want something to sound good....
i would also recomend a aem v2 intake.....

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroS2000

actually i dont really care if the car is riced or not. I still enjoy looking at ricey cars. but OEM add ons for s2000 is a rip off and doesnt not work. what does a spoiler 2 inces high do?? and they cost like $500.
something that does not work and you put it on is consider rice to me.

That makes NO sense... If that was the case we would all drive around in the same car, Cars are styled for peoples liking, Rice is putting a 2ft spoiler on a car that couldn't even reach speeds where it would do you any good. OEM weighs exhaust weighs a TON, getting ANY aftermarket exhaust will save you a good amount of weight

Dr. Jimbo · 10-10-2009, 04:05 PM

OEM=Rice?

Someone post some pix of ricers so Aero can see what rice is.

Get a fart can for your exhaust. That's rice.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 04:19 PM

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RL1924

That makes NO sense... If that was the case we would all drive around in the same car, Cars are styled for peoples liking, Rice is putting a 2ft spoiler on a car that couldn't even reach speeds where it would do you any good. OEM weighs exhaust weighs a TON, getting ANY aftermarket exhaust will save you a good amount of weight

Eveyone is driving around with the same car anyways with OEM stuff. all the OEM stuff looks the same. Honda made the exhaust heavy for a reason. Weight distribution. If you take the stock exhaust out and put a lighter one on, you will get better MPG and go a lil faster but your handle is not gona be the same. the front will be alot heavier than the back.

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 04:38 PM

I saw an s2000 with all oem addon to it and i laugh. He thinks hes not rice just because he has oem parts but for about $600+ and noting on it works. thats rice.

Dont get me wrong. i got an OEM hardtop and OEM lip and i call my self a ricer cause i fell for that stuff. i learn my lesson and stop puting things that doesnt work on my car.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 04:46 PM

Well I guess you have given your self your own meaning for rice... And if adding a NON oem exhaust is going to be a negative effect on handling... Why is that every race team has a NON oem exhaust?

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 04:52 PM

i dont know, you ask them. I rather have that 50/50 weight distribution for the better feeling driving but for racers they want less weight to go faster and get better MPG. Mayby they get the lighter exhaust but they also has carbon fiber hood and other mod to make the front end lighter to maintain that 50/50.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 04:53 PM

You do know that a carbon hood weighs not much less than ours... Plus an exhaust does not just sit on the back of your car? Im was asking you because of your claim

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 05:00 PM

what part of the exhaust is the heaviest? looks to be like that back of it near the rear end is the heavist but i never took it out so i dont know. but lets say the exhaust weights 50 lbs. i would try to gut out 50 lbs in the front. but this car is made with purpose already and noting to gut out really so stock is pretty good alreay.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 05:02 PM

Ya... Agree to disagree don't think we will ever be on the same page, But cant expect everyone to be

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 05:03 PM

they way you guys change the exhaust is taking it out from after the cat right? that part is more towards the rear end anyways. and the two big ass what-ja-ma call it. looks pretty heavy.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 05:21 PM

Well... If you do want to keep going, The mufflers would be the heaviest part of an exhaust. Now with that said you probably will loose 10-20lbs off an exhaust, say the mufflers are 10-15 Now taking 10-15lbs off the rear section of the car that is not 50/50 exactly but for argument sake we will say it is. Car weighs about 2800lbs thats 1,400lbs F 1,400R now if its 1400F and 1,385R this is going to change the cars handling? If you have a full tank of gas or a half tank would affect it more than changing your exhaust!

AeroS2000 · 10-10-2009, 05:45 PM

Im not againts Exhaust at all. I love the sound thats why i bring my car up to red everyday. I rather hear the engine screaming than a loud ass fart cannon that sounds the same at 2K RPM and 7K RPM.

But the OEM aero parts are not worth it and just for looks and rice.

JDMzimbo · 10-10-2009, 05:48 PM

Why do race cars and track car take out seats, door panels, floor mats, and just about every other piece of equipment that doesnt need to be used on the track? less weight=more speed and better handling.

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroS2000

Im not againts Exhaust at all. I love the sound thats why i bring my car up to red everyday. I rather hear the engine screaming than a loud ass fart cannon that sounds the same at 2K RPM and 7K RPM.

But the OEM aero parts are not worth it and just for looks and rice.

Have you heard aftermarket exhausts on an s2000 at 7k? As said before you have your own meaning for rice now so you can call it whatever you like oem parts being rice is surly a first

RL1924 · 10-10-2009, 06:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEKOyw43_A

stea1thviper · 10-10-2009, 10:24 PM

i cant wait to rice out my s2000 with oem parts

S2K Reborn · 10-11-2009, 04:49 PM

Aero, if u don't like rice, why did you by the Honda. Everything you are saying has no point. If what you say is true that oem=rice, than every car ever made is rice when it comes out of the factory. My 2cents

RL1924 · 10-11-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2K Reborn

Aero, if u don't like rice, why did you by the Honda. Everything you are saying has no point. If what you say is true that oem=rice, than every car ever made is rice when it comes out of the factory. My 2cents

Lol dont worry he said he "does like to look at rice" makes 100% sense

Jim21680 · 10-11-2009, 06:16 PM

Alright...I might get tossed off this site for saying this - but that first Civic posted by RL actually looks pretty cool. I'd never drive it, but at least they did "rice" right! No cheap stuff there - it was probably a lot of work. The dude has at least some form of taste...not sure what though.

As for exhaust - I think stock might sound the best. But like others have said - it's heavy. And whatever you decide on, power increase will likely be minimal, even with a full setup from the headers back. So I'd think the key idea here is to look for the lightest exhaust that doesn't sound horrible. Good luck.

skatepozer23 · 10-11-2009, 06:19 PM

I checked out the invidia V4 exhaust on youtube and i really like it but i cant find any info about it on the web?

Can anyone help?

Jim21680 · 10-11-2009, 06:20 PM

Hmmm....after watching that rather-excellent youtube video, I think I've changed my mind that stock might not be the best sounding. All of those exhaust systems sounded pretty awesome in my opinion. Nice job whoever made that!

RL1924 · 10-11-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim21680

Alright...I might get tossed off this site for saying this - but that first Civic posted by RL actually looks pretty cool. I'd never drive it, but at least they did "rice" right! No cheap stuff there - it was probably a lot of work. The dude has at least some form of taste...not sure what though.

As for exhaust - I think stock might sound the best. But like others have said - it's heavy. And whatever you decide on, power increase will likely be minimal, even with a full setup from the headers back. So I'd think the key idea here is to look for the lightest exhaust that doesn't sound horrible. Good luck.

Lol Jim im sure he would trade you the hatch for your S any day.. To each there own, I signed on my old computer and my background was a civic as crazy as that one. At one point I would have done anything for somthing like that... Now couldn't be paid to drive it.

mdjice · 10-11-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RL1924

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEKOyw43_A

I'm gonna get hell for this on a S2000 forum but oh well.. here we go, no offense but ALL of the exhaust on that video sound like Sh!t to my ears, I know youtube etc... but I'm not talking sound quality I mean the sound of the engine out of these pipes sounds pretty bad and thin, nothing like my corvette's V8 for example with full exhaust and headers...now THAT"S a nice sound!!. I'm going to replace my Invedia on my S2000 because it sounds too loud but not pleasant to MY ears but hearing other exhaust, I think it's more an Engine thing then just exhaust.

RL1924 · 10-11-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdjice

I'm gonna get hell for this on a S2000 forum but oh well.. here we go, no offense but ALL of the exhaust on that video sound like Sh!t to my ears, I know youtube etc... but I'm not talking sound quality I mean the sound of the engine out of these pipes sounds pretty bad and thin, nothing like my corvette's V8 for example with full exhaust and headers...now THAT"S a nice sound!!. I'm going to replace my Invedia on my S2000 because it sounds too loud but not pleasant to MY ears but hearing other exhaust, I think it's more an Engine thing then just exhaust.

I agree that the sound of a V8 vs a straight 4 you cant really compare, but I wouldn't think someone that has one of those would be rocking a full veilside body kit and carbon hood s2000 either

RL1924 · 10-11-2009, 06:50 PM

I'm not sure why do I feel like Im defending the s2000 on s2000.com ??

mdjice · 10-11-2009, 07:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoNmo...eature=related
can I get that sound on my S2000??

mdjice · 10-11-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RL1924

I agree that the sound of a V8 vs a straight 4 you cant really compare, but I wouldn't think someone that has one of those would be rocking a full veilside body kit and carbon hood s2000 either

Lol I feel you, but I didn't install the kit or the hood

I bought it like this and change is on the way!

good bye stock rims, good bye Invidia etc...

s2000isu · 10-11-2009, 07:08 PM

After reading this thread I am no longer suprised that Obama is our president.

AeroS2000 · 10-11-2009, 07:11 PM

I like the sound of Toyota, They are more deeper and meaner. espically the older mr2s and supra.
my mk1 is banging a stock exhaust but when its about 4K- 7.5K RPM,TVIS kicks in like Vtec and it screams. I love 4AGE.
the S2000 sound is a little more conservative.

dezignpro04 · 10-11-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdjice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoNmo...eature=related
can I get that sound on my S2000??

Sounds nice but it looks like USDM rice..... (that rhymed.. lol)

mdjice · 10-11-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezignpro04

Sounds nice but it looks like USDM rice..... (that rhymed.. lol)

lol yeah I'm not really into the all look of the car, just the sound. Mine is way more true to the original unlike my s2000 lol

AeroS2000 · 10-11-2009, 07:15 PM

I like coming to ricers forum for times to time for drama. This forum sucks to be honest. Even a 25+ yr/old car forum is more active than this forum and they talk about things that worth talking about.

10-10-2009, 01:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
skatepozer23 Enthused Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 99	exhaust recommendation Ive been looking at al;ot of exhausts but i havent been able to find one i want. Definately want dual pipe but my major concern is i do not want to sound anything like a ricer. I know alot of yall will say if i dont want to sound ricer then why did you buy a honda (or maybe not). I bought the S2000 because its an excellent piece of engineering but have never been a fan of the sound coming out of civics and rsx's, etc. Is there such an exhaust?

10-10-2009, 01:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	anything after market for Honda is rice. but for an s2000 is just more expensive rice. even oem is rice cause they dont do shit. theres a post ealier about gretty TC and somthing els but he was gona take pics and and vid of the sound so wait and watch sound clips __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 02:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	actually i dont really care if the car is riced or not. I still enjoy looking at ricey cars. but OEM add ons for s2000 is a rip off and doesnt not work. what does a spoiler 2 inces high do?? and they cost like $500. something that does not work and you put it on is consider rice to me. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 03:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
nateman101 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: the G boro , NC Posts: 116	Hey.... I am in the same predicament as you...... I have been researching for over 6 months..... Its hard to decide.... Keep it stock? Go with a full invidia (q300 w/ headers) Comtech And recently found T1r-em Dyno charts show a 14hp increase and 10lbs of torque increase? Skunk2 exhaust ASM dual 60's Tanabe (quite exhaust) the only problem is there are no dyno charts.. only for the skunk2 and the t1r..... Uhhh????? i talked to a guy at a autocross show.... he said... keep it stock! learn how to drive the car.... then decide what you want to do... he said to first thing is to get a sway bar, and some good tires.... he suggested Dunlop star tec's (dry) I can drive....(learning) and i just want something to sound good.... i would also recomend a aem v2 intake..... __________________

10-10-2009, 04:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Top Always Down Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,731	OEM=Rice? Someone post some pix of ricers so Aero can see what rice is. Get a fart can for your exhaust. That's rice. __________________

10-10-2009, 01:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	I was afraid of the same thing putting an exhaust on my car I got a T1R dual and was afraid it was ricey... Untill I heard a civic drive by me with an exhaust... that was rice.

10-10-2009, 01:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
skatepozer23 Enthused Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 99	also im thinking about keeping the stock exhaust since thats the only one i like but get a test pipe. Does anyone have a video of stock exhaust with test pipe?

10-10-2009, 04:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129

10-10-2009, 04:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	I saw an s2000 with all oem addon to it and i laugh. He thinks hes not rice just because he has oem parts but for about $600+ and noting on it works. thats rice. Dont get me wrong. i got an OEM hardtop and OEM lip and i call my self a ricer cause i fell for that stuff. i learn my lesson and stop puting things that doesnt work on my car. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 04:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	Well I guess you have given your self your own meaning for rice... And if adding a NON oem exhaust is going to be a negative effect on handling... Why is that every race team has a NON oem exhaust?

10-10-2009, 04:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	i dont know, you ask them. I rather have that 50/50 weight distribution for the better feeling driving but for racers they want less weight to go faster and get better MPG. Mayby they get the lighter exhaust but they also has carbon fiber hood and other mod to make the front end lighter to maintain that 50/50. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 04:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	You do know that a carbon hood weighs not much less than ours... Plus an exhaust does not just sit on the back of your car? Im was asking you because of your claim

10-10-2009, 05:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	what part of the exhaust is the heaviest? looks to be like that back of it near the rear end is the heavist but i never took it out so i dont know. but lets say the exhaust weights 50 lbs. i would try to gut out 50 lbs in the front. but this car is made with purpose already and noting to gut out really so stock is pretty good alreay. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 05:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	Ya... Agree to disagree don't think we will ever be on the same page, But cant expect everyone to be

10-10-2009, 05:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	they way you guys change the exhaust is taking it out from after the cat right? that part is more towards the rear end anyways. and the two big ass what-ja-ma call it. looks pretty heavy. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 05:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	Well... If you do want to keep going, The mufflers would be the heaviest part of an exhaust. Now with that said you probably will loose 10-20lbs off an exhaust, say the mufflers are 10-15 Now taking 10-15lbs off the rear section of the car that is not 50/50 exactly but for argument sake we will say it is. Car weighs about 2800lbs thats 1,400lbs F 1,400R now if its 1400F and 1,385R this is going to change the cars handling? If you have a full tank of gas or a half tank would affect it more than changing your exhaust!

10-10-2009, 05:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	Im not againts Exhaust at all. I love the sound thats why i bring my car up to red everyday. I rather hear the engine screaming than a loud ass fart cannon that sounds the same at 2K RPM and 7K RPM. But the OEM aero parts are not worth it and just for looks and rice. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-10-2009, 05:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
JDMzimbo s2k4life Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 958	Why do race cars and track car take out seats, door panels, floor mats, and just about every other piece of equipment that doesnt need to be used on the track? less weight=more speed and better handling. __________________ Mods: HKS Highpower Dual Invidia Test Pipe ARC Intake and Induction Box Eibach Springs Momo Shift Knob Rota D2 Wheels Mugen Rep. Bumper More To Come.....

10-10-2009, 06:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEKOyw43_A

10-10-2009, 10:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
stea1thviper Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orange County Posts: 19	i cant wait to rice out my s2000 with oem parts

10-11-2009, 04:49 PM	#25 (permalink)
S2K Reborn Tx Tech Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waco, Tx Posts: 397	Aero, if u don't like rice, why did you by the Honda. Everything you are saying has no point. If what you say is true that oem=rice, than every car ever made is rice when it comes out of the factory. My 2cents __________________

10-11-2009, 06:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
Jim21680 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 563	Alright...I might get tossed off this site for saying this - but that first Civic posted by RL actually looks pretty cool. I'd never drive it, but at least they did "rice" right! No cheap stuff there - it was probably a lot of work. The dude has at least some form of taste...not sure what though. As for exhaust - I think stock might sound the best. But like others have said - it's heavy. And whatever you decide on, power increase will likely be minimal, even with a full setup from the headers back. So I'd think the key idea here is to look for the lightest exhaust that doesn't sound horrible. Good luck. __________________

10-11-2009, 06:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
skatepozer23 Enthused Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 99	I checked out the invidia V4 exhaust on youtube and i really like it but i cant find any info about it on the web? Can anyone help?

10-11-2009, 06:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
Jim21680 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 563	Hmmm....after watching that rather-excellent youtube video, I think I've changed my mind that stock might not be the best sounding. All of those exhaust systems sounded pretty awesome in my opinion. Nice job whoever made that! __________________

10-11-2009, 06:50 PM	#33 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,129	I'm not sure why do I feel like Im defending the s2000 on s2000.com ??

10-11-2009, 07:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
mdjice MusicMan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 79	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoNmo...eature=related can I get that sound on my S2000??

10-11-2009, 07:08 PM	#36 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,744	After reading this thread I am no longer suprised that Obama is our president. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

10-11-2009, 07:11 PM	#37 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	I like the sound of Toyota, They are more deeper and meaner. espically the older mr2s and supra. my mk1 is banging a stock exhaust but when its about 4K- 7.5K RPM,TVIS kicks in like Vtec and it screams. I love 4AGE. the S2000 sound is a little more conservative. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

10-11-2009, 07:15 PM	#40 (permalink)
AeroS2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 199	I like coming to ricers forum for times to time for drama. This forum sucks to be honest. Even a 25+ yr/old car forum is more active than this forum and they talk about things that worth talking about. __________________ Once before I saw this car But only in my mind. It did not exist Yet I could feel its power And now that its real It races with my soul

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