Braille Battery

Lonegunman · 06-25-2007, 02:25 PM

Hi - new to the forum. I was wondering if anyone uses the Braille battery? I'm a nut for weight saving and a buddy of mine uses it in his car (Subaru) and recommended it to me. I was wondering if anyone has tried one out in the S2000.

Vezna31 · 06-26-2007, 02:59 PM

Is that the kind you hook while your eyes are closed???

Sorry...couldn't resist.

carguy123 · 06-26-2007, 09:18 PM

I have had one for over a year now. I love it

This is not my first lightweight battery as I have used them for years in all my sporty cars. They last, They crank well. But they won't take a long slow drain like leaving the radio on for hours while the car isn't running

desmo4 · 10-13-2007, 10:31 PM

None of those low capacity batteries are practical for cars that have any drain when turned off and are not plugged into a charger all the time when they are parked. The batteries sulphinate and fail in short order. The only batteries which can take that treatment are Optima Yellow tops and sadly Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S. I tried one and it failed in warranty, and they gave me a full refund. They told me recently they will not make another small Optima battery. I also tried an Odyssey PC925 and it could handle the S either.

Jonathan

philiam · 10-14-2007, 05:22 PM

"Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S."

Sears has a new "platinum" AGM battery that they claim is better than the spiral wound "Optima" units. Don't know if they make it in our size. They run about $150

s2000isu · 10-14-2007, 06:33 PM

looks pretty. I hate sears though.

desmo4 · 10-14-2007, 11:24 PM

Johnson Controls owns Optima and Odyssey as well other aircraft brand batteries. They also make all the batteries for Sears, Kragen, Pepboys and most house labeled batteries in the world.

Jonathan

desmo4 · 10-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philiam

"Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S."

Sears has a new "platinum" AGM battery that they claim is better than the spiral wound "Optima" units. Don't know if they make it in our size. They run about $150

How many amp hour capacity does it have?

Jonathan

desmo4 · 11-08-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philiam

"Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S."

Sears has a new "platinum" AGM battery that they claim is better than the spiral wound "Optima" units. Don't know if they make it in our size. They run about $150

Johnson Controls owns Optima, Odyssey and makes all the batteries for Sears, Kmart, Kragen and every other battery store in the world practically. So I doubt it. Unless it's an Odyssey in sheep's clothing.

Jonathan

philiam · 11-09-2007, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmo4

Johnson Controls owns Optima, Odyssey and makes all the batteries for Sears, Kmart, Kragen and every other battery store in the world practically. So I doubt it. Unless it's an Odyssey in sheep's clothing.

Jonathan

They could be making it especialy for Sears. All batteries are not created equal. Even the Die Hards will vary according to climate regions. Or, Sears could be using more than one supplier. I'll check further.

Java Junky · 11-09-2007, 06:00 AM

Yeah, as usual, Phil's correct. The "same" battery is not always the same battery. Ya godda go by the best spec sheet.
N' jus' what's to be gained by the loss of a reliable battery?
Be well.
Java

desmo4 · 11-09-2007, 09:06 AM

If you could find a light weight battery that could manage all the accessories it would be a good thing. But as I said before I tried and Odyssey PC925 which is an AGM type(the civic preferred) size and it did not last. It was 26 amp/hr and weighed 20 lbs., as apposed to the stock flooded electrolyte battery which has 36 am/hr capacity and weighs close to 40 lbs. Most AGM chemistry batteries require to be kept at full charge or they will sultanate. To do this it needs to be on a charger whenever it is not being driven. Not very practical. They start the car fine but have short lifespans and cost a lot more than the flooded electrolyte antique we have. I have been investigating Lithium Ion technology. It has all the possibilities to produce a 10 pound battery but will require some electronics to regulate the charging regime.

Jonathan

philiam · 11-09-2007, 05:45 PM

Here is a little battery info. I have an Optima battery to start my diesel motor home. Mainly because it's sealed and I don't have to remove it to check the water. It seems to hold up very well in a vehicle that sits for months at a time. I also use a "smart" battery charger that can de-sulfate a battery.

Here is a link to a battery article. The sears Platinum is an AGM.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...ginMethod=auto

desmo4 · 11-09-2007, 08:15 PM

Optima's are great batteries and it's unfortunate that they made one that fit the S and it was faulty. And they will not build an Optima that small again.

Jonathan

desmo4 · 11-09-2007, 08:32 PM

I just checked the sears website and it a group 34. 68 amp hour and weighs 53 lbs.

Jonathan

06-25-2007, 02:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lonegunman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1	Braille Battery Hi - new to the forum. I was wondering if anyone uses the Braille battery? I'm a nut for weight saving and a buddy of mine uses it in his car (Subaru) and recommended it to me. I was wondering if anyone has tried one out in the S2000.

06-26-2007, 02:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vezna31 Resident Track Whore :) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 899	Is that the kind you hook while your eyes are closed??? Sorry...couldn't resist. __________________ Vezna Financial Services - For mortgages, accounting and taxes, and phone service needs. http://www.vezna.com San Diego Car Club - http://www.sdcarclub.com

10-13-2007, 10:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 401	None of those low capacity batteries are practical for cars that have any drain when turned off and are not plugged into a charger all the time when they are parked. The batteries sulphinate and fail in short order. The only batteries which can take that treatment are Optima Yellow tops and sadly Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S. I tried one and it failed in warranty, and they gave me a full refund. They told me recently they will not make another small Optima battery. I also tried an Odyssey PC925 and it could handle the S either. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

10-14-2007, 05:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,103	"Optima no longer makes a D51 which fits the S." Sears has a new "platinum" AGM battery that they claim is better than the spiral wound "Optima" units. Don't know if they make it in our size. They run about $150 __________________

10-14-2007, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 981	looks pretty. I hate sears though. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

06-26-2007, 09:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
carguy123 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 36	I have had one for over a year now. I love it This is not my first lightweight battery as I have used them for years in all my sporty cars. They last, They crank well. But they won't take a long slow drain like leaving the radio on for hours while the car isn't running

10-14-2007, 11:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 401	Johnson Controls owns Optima and Odyssey as well other aircraft brand batteries. They also make all the batteries for Sears, Kragen, Pepboys and most house labeled batteries in the world. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

11-09-2007, 06:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Yeah, as usual, Phil's correct. The "same" battery is not always the same battery. Ya godda go by the best spec sheet. N' jus' what's to be gained by the loss of a reliable battery? Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

11-09-2007, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 401	If you could find a light weight battery that could manage all the accessories it would be a good thing. But as I said before I tried and Odyssey PC925 which is an AGM type(the civic preferred) size and it did not last. It was 26 amp/hr and weighed 20 lbs., as apposed to the stock flooded electrolyte battery which has 36 am/hr capacity and weighs close to 40 lbs. Most AGM chemistry batteries require to be kept at full charge or they will sultanate. To do this it needs to be on a charger whenever it is not being driven. Not very practical. They start the car fine but have short lifespans and cost a lot more than the flooded electrolyte antique we have. I have been investigating Lithium Ion technology. It has all the possibilities to produce a 10 pound battery but will require some electronics to regulate the charging regime. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

11-09-2007, 05:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,103	Here is a little battery info. I have an Optima battery to start my diesel motor home. Mainly because it's sealed and I don't have to remove it to check the water. It seems to hold up very well in a vehicle that sits for months at a time. I also use a "smart" battery charger that can de-sulfate a battery. Here is a link to a battery article. The sears Platinum is an AGM. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...ginMethod=auto __________________

11-09-2007, 08:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 401	Optima's are great batteries and it's unfortunate that they made one that fit the S and it was faulty. And they will not build an Optima that small again. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

11-09-2007, 08:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 401	I just checked the sears website and it a group 34. 68 amp hour and weighs 53 lbs. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

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