simple question

[StemS2k]

i just got rid of my Audi S4, and im looking into getting an S2000. i know that the newer ones do not rev as high and seem to be slightly downtuned but a slightly larger engine. at what year did they stop using the 2.0 that revved to 9000, because that will be the one im going for. thanks.

[StemS2k]

ok i just found the answer
< 2003 = 2.0l
> 2003 = 2.2l
thanks anyway, and ill be joining yall as soon as i can find one

[gomarlins3]

Welcome to the site.

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Well im not sure you should say detuned, I understand why you would say that though. The new engine was a responce to the complaints that the 2.0L didnt have enough torque. The 2.2L has more torque, that comes earlier on a flatter torque curve. I believe you would be more correct to say retuned.

I own an AP1 and it does just fine for me. While more torque is always welcome this isnt a car you get if you want torque. The engine needs to be spun to the troposhpere to get power. Then again I find that to be the most enjoyable way to drive.

[StemS2k]

yeah thanks for the info guys. haha i was just excited in getting the 2.0 so i could be shifting at 9k rpm. fun stuff, cant wait. i probably shouldnt have said downtuned, just more driveable down low i guess.

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Good luck with your new car, I hope you enjoy your S2k as much as i have enjoyed owning mine.

[Java Junky]

Welcome aboard Stem. Know that you jus' made Go's day with your reference to the later Stewie engine.
As for makin' the selection between the two: Bribe the hungriest guy at your local used car lot. Doo whucha goddadoo to assure yourself some time in the cockpit of both the AP1 and the AP2. They're similar n' they're different n' no amount of second hand data is gonna make the decision as well as you are with wheel time in both.
Be well.
Java

[StemS2k]

thanks for the input guys, and ill be joining yall soon hopefully

[Bubblerboy64]

I drove a bunch of them before buying and I did not see a lot of difference between the earlier cars and the later cars as far as performance. I bought a car based on condition and price and ended up buying a year 2000 car but really think I would have been just as happy with the later car as well. I enjoy the handling of the car and rarely red line the engine. I would certainly drive several and get a feel for them. I found some differences between cars . Some just seemed to me to drive "nicer" then others. Very subjective I know but I drove one in particular that just was not up to the standards of the others. Can't say I could put my figure on anything particularly wrong but I just did not like that car as well as others I drove. The dealer said that he had three S 2000 cars and the other two sold first so he admitted that the car was not the first choice of the other buyers either. So drive as many as you can. John

[s2000isu]

rarely red line it eep I redline it everyday

[Java Junky]

Godda agree with Bub on the fact that some of the used Stewies are better than others and that both models accelerate similarly enough that I'm not sharp enough to note the difference.
But there's a very distinct difference between the earlier and the later model handlin' characteristics n' I think that, along with choosin' the most solid car from what's available, that's probably the main item that should be considered when purchasin' a used Stewie.
If you never get the opportunity to drive both so you won't ever know the difference, pick either. If they're in good shape you almost can't go wrong.
But, if after buyin' one without havin' tried both, n' you later find out that the one you didn't buy suits your drivin' style better . . . would'a/should'a/could'a.
Be well.
Java

[StemS2k]

thanks for all the opinions again.

i drove a 2002 and a 2005. they both felt like driving indy cars compared to my old Audi S4, so i cant wait to get one. the older model is more appealing to me for price purposes and the stiffer suspension as well as the higher revving engine. i look forward to joining the crowd

i saw an S2k yesterday that had a roll bar on each side connecting from the top of the windshield pillars back to behind the seats. the bars were blue, where should i look to see these? thanks

[StemS2k]

also, i was told that any S2k before the 2006 did not have traction control. i hope this means that there really is NO traction control program rather than just one that you cannot turn off. i drove around my friends M3 when it was raining and i turned off the traction control and it was fun, but i could imagine some people would have trouble with that.

so basically is there NO traction control program or is it just permanant? because i need to be able to enjoy wet parking lots. thanks

[Bubblerboy64]

Your are correct to the best of my knowledge. Far from expert on the subject but I believe all cars with the Stability assist have the option of turning it off. I do believe however that it is a great advantage and especially to the "average" driver. Computers just react so much quicker then we skin and boners. John H

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In sports cars you can turn off stability control for the most part. I have a 2000 stewie and it doesnt have a any form of stability control, I know that. I have had the tail come out many times, and have spun it in rainy parking lots. Its a lot of fun.

Bubbler yes stability control does have a benefit, keeping drivers out of trouble, but you can run significantly faster without it.

[StemS2k]

i know that i can handle no stability program because ive experienced how to react and when to be careful, but it surprises me that when i see the average person driving one around that they dont lose control in the rain. i mean the M3 is a little heavier than the S2k and i was skating along the road at even 1/2 throttle. lots of fun, but veryyy easy to make a mistake.

but im glad to hear that the car doesnt have permanant traction control or something like that. thanks for the info.

any ideas on the roll bars i spotted a few posts earlier?

[Java Junky]

My biggest gripe with stability control in a sportscar is that it actually makes you less of a driver. It doesn't allow you to learn the abilities of the car, or, to hone your own abilities.
Here's two cars that can corner equally well: one's foolproof n' done by computer n' the other's done by good ol' seat-of-the-pants skill.
I know which one I'd pick for my wife n' daughter (n' I know that they'd both slap the @*#& out'a me if they read this), n' I know, without a doubt, which one I'd want to spend my time in.
I didn't spring the denaro for some computer to have all the fun. They got video games for that.
Be well.
Java

[Kick it down a gear]

I couldnt agree with you more on that one Java