Appropriate Responce

Neil · 01-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Any suggestions for an "appropriate responce" to these select few people who continually suggest that I should of bought a North American car instead of my S2000................my common sence replies are exhausted

Neil

sonic · 01-23-2008, 11:37 AM

how about " GO !*@& YOURSELF

" That would be an appropriate response for me LOL.

dynasty_four · 01-23-2008, 11:39 AM

american cars are trash... note thats why dodge ford and chevy say they are the best selling american cars on the road... lmao cause they cant compete with foriegn trucks... and lets not even talk about the crappy cars... no styling whatsoever...

Swingle1 · 01-23-2008, 11:43 AM

When people hold an emotionally-based opinion, common sense won't ever matter. No point in arguing with them, Neil.
Your money... your life... your choice. Follow the money when people start telling you different.

Neil · 01-23-2008, 11:57 AM

I like that Sonic.......... right to the point lad.

Liking the Hondas so much I told them that I would sell the right nut off my best friend for another Honda.............lol

s2kx2 · 01-23-2008, 12:10 PM

I echo Sonics response !

Dr. Jimbo · 01-23-2008, 12:14 PM

Tell them to look at Consumer Reports "Best and Worst" cars. Funny how most of the best are Japanese and worst are American (in general). I'll stick with my Hondas and Toyotas.

Me:
'01 S2000 63k mi.
'91 Toyota pickup 243k mi.

controller · 01-23-2008, 12:17 PM

In a capitalist economy, the consumer votes with their purchasing power. People choose cars for many reasons, and if North American manufacturers made anything that could compete with the s2000, I'm sure it would be considered. The truth is, they don't.

The closest thing is the Ion redline or the Solstice. Both cars did not compare to the S2000 in magazine testing because of build quality and lesser handling. Most other industry publications compare the s2000 to a BMW z4 or a Porsche Boxster, not the rental car fleet fodder that is the current staple of North American manufacturers.

s2000isu · 01-23-2008, 01:08 PM

You should ask them if they know what country their chevy or ford is made. I usually say as soon as they build a car worth buying I will go domestic. There are a few domestics id own but I hate when people complain about buying imported vehicles.

sonic · 01-23-2008, 01:47 PM

Not only is it compared to Z4 and Boxter but it did better than them in almost ever one of the comparisons (handleing, speed, price ect.).

Daddy Zach · 01-23-2008, 02:55 PM

Neil,
Be Nice!
use words like:
Resale value
Acceleration
Handling
Reliability
One above the crowd

Cheers

makopolo · 01-23-2008, 03:00 PM

I would love to buy an american car, but the one I like is not made here. This country prides itself in the "free enterprise system", well nobody can give you s*&% for getting the best product your money can buy.

rickjkerstetter · 01-23-2008, 03:05 PM

well nowadays all domestic car companys are building their cars outside of the united states (mexico) and all the foreign car companys are building inside the united states (toyota, honda, and mitsubishi). So does it really matter what the make is?,,,lol

Dr. Jimbo · 01-23-2008, 05:10 PM

Rick, I think it all comes down to R&D and technology. Japan's Big 2 seem to be ahead of America's Big 3. I can't believe when one of my patients is so stoked to get a new Chevy, Dodge or Ford and 2000 miles later it needs a new tranny or something. Sure, it's under warranty, but who's to say it's not gonna happen again.
I've beat the crap out of my Toyota truck and only had to replace the clutch once, the radiator twice (not the greatest radiators, but then again, you are supposed to flush them every now and then), tires, brakes and oil. Oh yea, the timing chain tensioner once and a couple of batteries. Not bad for 243k on the odo.
There are American cars I like, I personally trust Honda and Toyota more.

DJJSR · 01-23-2008, 05:40 PM

QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really care where it comes from as long as it's not a piece of crap. It just rubs me the wrong way to spend $40,000 for a vehicle that has to be returned to the dealer over and over again to get things fixed.

The Chevys and Fords I've owned have been problems. The Hondas and Toyotas have not been problems. Easy decision.

Neil · 01-23-2008, 06:13 PM

As Sonic says, go.............bath yourselves ( I think ) yea clean your mind and buy Foriegn. Reference noted. Thanks guys for all your support

philiam · 01-23-2008, 06:16 PM

If it weren't for pressure from overseas, Detroit would still be using technology from the 1930s. People better wake up to the fact that a global economy is happening. Who makes their tv's, vcr's microwaves, etc, etc?

makopolo · 01-23-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philiam

If it weren't for pressure from overseas, Detroit would still be using technology from the 1930s. People better wake up to the fact that a global economy is happening. Who makes their tv's, vcr's microwaves, etc, etc?

i agree 100%, if it wassent for that competition we would be paying more and getting much less from the american auto makers.

s2kx2 · 01-23-2008, 08:23 PM

And lets not forget that GM recently issued a recall for every single Solstice & Sky for some sort of fluid failure that could "cause the driver to lose control of the vehicle" As far as I am concerned there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in the same class as the S2000 as far as Value, Performance, Balance, Handling, Price, build quality, styling & reliability are concerned. Like Car & Driver said in their "Breaking The Rules" comparison test in 2001 when the S2000 beat the Mercedes SLK, BMW Z3M & Porsche Boxter "We did not include the Mazda Miata in our test because the S2000 would have it for lunch and not even bother to spit out the bones" GOD I love these cars!

bobby2002s2k. · 01-23-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2kx2

And lets not forget that GM recently issued a recall for every single Solstice & Sky for some sort of fluid failure that could "cause the driver to lose control of the vehicle" As far as I am concerned there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in the same class as the S2000 as far as Value, Performance, Balance, Handling, Price, build quality & reliability are concerned. Like Car & Driver said in their "Breaking The Rules" comparison test in 2001 when the S2000 beat the Mercedes SLK, BMW Z4M & Porsche Boxter "We did not include the Mazda Miata in our test because the S2000 would have it for lunch and not even bother to spit out the bones" GOD I love these cars!

I was goin give my 2 cents but you said it best man.

Java Junky · 01-23-2008, 08:35 PM

When I spend your @*#&in' money I'll ask for your @*#&in' opinion. 'Works fer me.

cbrguy7 · 01-23-2008, 11:06 PM

american cars fall apart too fast after my 2000 chevy s10 motor blew up 2 weeks after I bought it (used) I decided I'm never buyin an american vehicle again...

Scooter · 01-23-2008, 11:30 PM

Tell them to look at the "source" data on the detail sheets on their cars at the dealer. It may be "final assembled" in the US but the parts are all foreign... Especially the little chip that makes it run, there hasn't been a chip plant here since the dot com bust.

js1 · 04-18-2008, 02:16 PM

Neil,

Let them drive it and then see what they say. I've let a few guys drive mine and they were all pleasantly surprised. If they don't like it then it's their loss... Good luck, this tends to happen a lot when you drive an S2K. I am reminded of the phrase, "People always fear what they don't understand..."

TheSoundMan21 · 04-18-2008, 02:27 PM

Whats also funny I realized over the weekend is that most people dont even know what the S2000 is. One guy thought it was a Suzuki

dezignpro04 · 04-18-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Jimbo

Tell them to look at Consumer Reports "Best and Worst" cars. Funny how most of the best are Japanese and worst are American (in general). I'll stick with my Hondas and Toyotas.

Me:
'01 S2000 63k mi.
'91 Toyota pickup 243k mi.

I have to agree...

My Rides...
02' Honda S2000
07' Honda Fit S

My first car I bought 6 years ago, I sold to a friend. 1994 Accord. Still running with 248,000+ miles. Wonder what would have happened if I sold him a Cavalier.. LOL

Dr. Jimbo · 04-18-2008, 03:42 PM

Consumer Reports shows that even most German cars are poor on reliability. The Mercedes and VW's score pretty bad. I was a VW and BMW guy before. Now I like my cars from the land of the rising sun.

gomarlins3 · 04-18-2008, 06:33 PM

How about "Thank you for your opinion. Can I give you a ride to the repair shop so you can get your vehicle back?"

controller · 04-18-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezignpro04

I have to agree...

My Rides...
02' Honda S2000
07' Honda Fit S

My first car I bought 6 years ago, I sold to a friend. 1994 Accord. Still running with 248,000+ miles. Wonder what would have happened if I sold him a Cavalier.. LOL

The car I drove before Stewie was a 2002 civic SI. I had 10k to spend, and was looking for something in the sport compact department. It boiled down to two cars, an 05 cavalier with 12k miles, or an 02

01-23-2008, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 792	Appropriate Responce Any suggestions for an "appropriate responce" to these select few people who continually suggest that I should of bought a North American car instead of my S2000................my common sence replies are exhausted Neil

01-23-2008, 11:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	how about " GO !@& YOURSELF" That would be an appropriate response for me LOL. __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME*

01-23-2008, 01:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,095	You should ask them if they know what country their chevy or ford is made. I usually say as soon as they build a car worth buying I will go domestic. There are a few domestics id own but I hate when people complain about buying imported vehicles. __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

01-23-2008, 01:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	Most other industry publications compare the s2000 to a BMW z4 or a Porsche Boxster, Not only is it compared to Z4 and Boxter but it did better than them in almost ever one of the comparisons (handleing, speed, price ect.). __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME

01-23-2008, 02:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Daddy Zach Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great White North Posts: 193	Neil, Be Nice! use words like: Resale value Acceleration Handling Reliability One above the crowd Cheers __________________ Black is still the coolest color

01-23-2008, 11:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
dynasty_four Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 60	american cars are trash... note thats why dodge ford and chevy say they are the best selling american cars on the road... lmao cause they cant compete with foriegn trucks... and lets not even talk about the crappy cars... no styling whatsoever...

01-23-2008, 11:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Swingle1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 287	When people hold an emotionally-based opinion, common sense won't ever matter. No point in arguing with them, Neil. Your money... your life... your choice. Follow the money when people start telling you different.

01-23-2008, 11:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 792	I like that Sonic.......... right to the point lad. Liking the Hondas so much I told them that I would sell the right nut off my best friend for another Honda.............lol

01-23-2008, 12:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
s2kx2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 332	I echo Sonics response !

01-23-2008, 12:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 946	Tell them to look at Consumer Reports "Best and Worst" cars. Funny how most of the best are Japanese and worst are American (in general). I'll stick with my Hondas and Toyotas. Me: '01 S2000 63k mi. '91 Toyota pickup 243k mi.

01-23-2008, 12:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
controller Yellow is the fastest. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 278	In a capitalist economy, the consumer votes with their purchasing power. People choose cars for many reasons, and if North American manufacturers made anything that could compete with the s2000, I'm sure it would be considered. The truth is, they don't. The closest thing is the Ion redline or the Solstice. Both cars did not compare to the S2000 in magazine testing because of build quality and lesser handling. Most other industry publications compare the s2000 to a BMW z4 or a Porsche Boxster, not the rental car fleet fodder that is the current staple of North American manufacturers.

01-23-2008, 03:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
makopolo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 124	I would love to buy an american car, but the one I like is not made here. This country prides itself in the "free enterprise system", well nobody can give you s*&% for getting the best product your money can buy.

01-23-2008, 03:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
rickjkerstetter Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 75	well nowadays all domestic car companys are building their cars outside of the united states (mexico) and all the foreign car companys are building inside the united states (toyota, honda, and mitsubishi). So does it really matter what the make is?,,,lol

01-23-2008, 05:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 946	Rick, I think it all comes down to R&D and technology. Japan's Big 2 seem to be ahead of America's Big 3. I can't believe when one of my patients is so stoked to get a new Chevy, Dodge or Ford and 2000 miles later it needs a new tranny or something. Sure, it's under warranty, but who's to say it's not gonna happen again. I've beat the crap out of my Toyota truck and only had to replace the clutch once, the radiator twice (not the greatest radiators, but then again, you are supposed to flush them every now and then), tires, brakes and oil. Oh yea, the timing chain tensioner once and a couple of batteries. Not bad for 243k on the odo. There are American cars I like, I personally trust Honda and Toyota more.

01-23-2008, 05:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,522	QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't really care where it comes from as long as it's not a piece of crap. It just rubs me the wrong way to spend $40,000 for a vehicle that has to be returned to the dealer over and over again to get things fixed. The Chevys and Fords I've owned have been problems. The Hondas and Toyotas have not been problems. Easy decision. __________________ Don

01-23-2008, 06:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 792	As Sonic says, go.............bath yourselves ( I think ) yea clean your mind and buy Foriegn. Reference noted. Thanks guys for all your support

01-23-2008, 06:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,363	If it weren't for pressure from overseas, Detroit would still be using technology from the 1930s. People better wake up to the fact that a global economy is happening. Who makes their tv's, vcr's microwaves, etc, etc? __________________

01-23-2008, 08:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
s2kx2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 332	Closing Comments And lets not forget that GM recently issued a recall for every single Solstice & Sky for some sort of fluid failure that could "cause the driver to lose control of the vehicle" As far as I am concerned there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in the same class as the S2000 as far as Value, Performance, Balance, Handling, Price, build quality, styling & reliability are concerned. Like Car & Driver said in their "Breaking The Rules" comparison test in 2001 when the S2000 beat the Mercedes SLK, BMW Z3M & Porsche Boxter "We did not include the Mazda Miata in our test because the S2000 would have it for lunch and not even bother to spit out the bones" GOD I love these cars! Last edited by s2kx2 : 04-18-2008 at 02:46 PM.

01-23-2008, 08:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,207	When I spend your @#&in' money I'll ask for your @#&in' opinion. 'Works fer me. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room. Last edited by Java Junky : 01-24-2008 at 01:05 AM. Reason: Clarification

01-23-2008, 11:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
cbrguy7 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Pheonix,Az Posts: 270	american cars fall apart too fast after my 2000 chevy s10 motor blew up 2 weeks after I bought it (used) I decided I'm never buyin an american vehicle again... __________________ 無限

01-23-2008, 11:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
Scooter Senior Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 899	Tell them to look at the "source" data on the detail sheets on their cars at the dealer. It may be "final assembled" in the US but the parts are all foreign... Especially the little chip that makes it run, there hasn't been a chip plant here since the dot com bust.

04-18-2008, 02:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
js1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame, CA Posts: 66	Neil, Let them drive it and then see what they say. I've let a few guys drive mine and they were all pleasantly surprised. If they don't like it then it's their loss... Good luck, this tends to happen a lot when you drive an S2K. I am reminded of the phrase, "People always fear what they don't understand..."

04-18-2008, 02:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
TheSoundMan21 Village Pyro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 850	Whats also funny I realized over the weekend is that most people dont even know what the S2000 is. One guy thought it was a Suzuki __________________ If you want to avoid toil, check your God Blessed OIL.

04-18-2008, 03:42 PM	#27 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 946	Consumer Reports shows that even most German cars are poor on reliability. The Mercedes and VW's score pretty bad. I was a VW and BMW guy before. Now I like my cars from the land of the rising sun. __________________

04-18-2008, 06:33 PM	#28 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,440	How about "Thank you for your opinion. Can I give you a ride to the repair shop so you can get your vehicle back?" __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.