Heads Up

[Neil]

Alarming as is seems vehicles do get stolen especially nice ones like ours.........reading a local post from a fella he had his s2000 stolen from his relatives driveway. It was suggested that proffessional thieves actually take the exposed VIN # and get a replica key for that vehicle.
On a reply another member says he actually covers his VIN # with a post-it-note not to expose the information.
So for the people who park their car outside overnight you may just want to "cover up" your VIN ..................just in case.


Neil

[Dr. Jimbo]

I have a parking tag over mine cuz I didn't want to hang it on the rearview mirror. I guess I'm ahead of the game.
Good info Neil.

[Java Junky]

Good advice Neil.
Thanks.

[NEIGHBORHOOD LEGENDS]

I do the same, I got pulled over a few times and the cops give me SHIT over it...

[Dr. Jimbo]

Yeah, cops gave me s**t for going over 85 miles per hour. Oh wait, that's 20 over. My bad.

[sky2k]

wow, thats alarming...now that i think about it, a person with connects to dealership or something could easily get keys for any car if they've got the VIN...thats crazy.., neil, did they give any other details as to how the low lifes acquired the key???

[DJJSR]

Just being able to cut a key shouldn't be enough for someone to steal your car. The ignition key has a chip in it.

[Neil]

Go figure....the guy had a hard top on, reversed the car tight and left it in reverse gear, came out in the morning to find his car gone, no skid marks where they would have towed his car..................no noise............just gone
An American plated car in the Toronto area

Yea I know that Don, but if they can get a replacement key fob thingy, then they can get in and do their stuff...................Pros

[s2kcdn]

I have a 06 that I brought up from the States. It came with only one key. It was not possible to get another key made for it in Canada. I had to drive it down to a Wenatchee,WA Honda dealership to get another key cut and programmed. So an American car in Canada should be safe!

[big mike]

Originally Posted by DJJSR

Just being able to cut a key shouldn't be enough for someone to steal your car. The ignition key has a chip in it.

actually u can steal a car with a transponder (chip) key with just a cut key.....but u need some other tools as well....believe it or not its very simple....yes its a sad truth!!! my buddy is a liscenced locksmith and i was an apprentice....i didnt believe it when he told me he could do it so he cut me a key and showed me how to do it and i started my 04 TSX using the cut key and just a couple other tools.....so whoever is stealing cars like this knows what they are doing and is using there skill for evil.....another sad truth.....

[AP2FTW]

there are ways to get around the immobilizer...having their own key just makes it that much easier to get in...thanks for the tip

[RFG1973S2000]

Originally Posted by Neil

Alarming as is seems vehicles do get stolen especially nice ones like ours.........reading a local post from a fella he had his s2000 stolen from his relatives driveway. It was suggested that proffessional thieves actually take the exposed VIN # and get a replica key for that vehicle.
On a reply another member says he actually covers his VIN # with a post-it-note not to expose the information.
So for the people who park their car outside overnight you may just want to "cover up" your VIN ..................just in case.


Neil

thanks for the heads up

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Neil

Alarming as is seems vehicles do get stolen especially nice ones like ours.........reading a local post from a fella he had his s2000 stolen from his relatives driveway. It was suggested that proffessional thieves actually take the exposed VIN # and get a replica key for that vehicle.
On a reply another member says he actually covers his VIN # with a post-it-note not to expose the information.
So for the people who park their car outside overnight you may just want to "cover up" your VIN ..................just in case.


Neil

If this is happening to you, then you are being robbed by your neighbors.

[Murphys_s2k]

Originally Posted by Marrk

If this is happening to you, then you are being robbed by your neighbors.

No its very hard to get keys made and the lock pad thingy. as long as they scout out your vin one night go to dealer ship say they lost there keys n give them vin and cash up front "cash so they cant be traced" then come back grab keys n one night just wallk up jump in n drive away. sorta easy if you know a shitty honda dealer they wont ask for the title.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Murphys_s2k

No its very hard to get keys made and the lock pad thingy. as long as they scout out your vin one night go to dealer ship say they lost there keys n give them vin and cash up front "cash so they cant be traced" then come back grab keys n one night just wallk up jump in n drive away. sorta easy if you know a shitty honda dealer they wont ask for the title.

Murph:

I'll grant that the key making is easy enough. But what two-bit car thief is going to scout out your car and your life enough to know where the car will be when he wants to steal it? Is he going to watch your house for a week, then make the key, then come back and, if it's there, steal it? You see what I mean? That's a lot harder than, say, seeing some rich guy on the street by chance, robbing the guy and taking off.

On the other hand, your neighbor's know what you have and they know your habits . . . It would be a cinch for your neighbors to get your VIN and do the deed.

[D1sclaimer]

You could just swap in a basemap 1052 AEM EMS since the immobilizer is in the ecu or even a spoon or mugen ecu since they are modded japanese ecu's (Japan ecu's don't have immobilizers)

Now if only I was a thief that had an AEM EMS.

[soniklife2000]

I just got an email from a friend sayin that theives now have a device that can register your security code when you lock your car using your fob. The safest way to lock your car is manually locking the doors when you exit your car. Not sure if this is what is happening here, but it is a thought.

[philiam]

A hidden ignition switch might help.

[s2kx2]

This is the only system I know off that stacks the deck in favor of the rightful owner. Silent page alarm system, Sig Sauer P-229 .40 caliber

"If I've worked for it ... payed for it ... its mine ... if you try to take what is mine ... I will take your life ... It's a fair trade ... and you have been given fair warning" -- Dr. Werner Betz

[Neil]

When the cars not driven. Mine lives in the garage.................never a problem

[lonestarbuzz]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

"If I've worked for it ... payed for it ... its mine ... if you try to take what is mine ... I will take your life ... It's a fair trade ... and you have been given fair warning" -- Dr. Werner Betz

i see this quote all the time, and it just bothers me. i'm not anti-gun and i'm not anti-protecting-yourself, but i am anti-shooting-someone-over-a-$20,000-car.

you should have every right to protect yourself and your belongings, but i would hope that you possessed the conscience and moral aptitude to not take another life because he wanted to take your honda.

[JakeO5]

Buzz, spot on.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

This is the only system I know off that stacks the deck in favor of the rightful owner. Silent page alarm system, Sig Sauer P-229 .40 caliber

"If I've worked for it ... payed for it ... its mine ... if you try to take what is mine ... I will take your life ... It's a fair trade ... and you have been given fair warning" -- Dr. Werner Betz

I agree with lonestarbuzz. This is childish. Come on, s2kx2, if you really feel that there is any connection between your statement and reality, then, by all means, go out and shoot a few people and come back and let us know how it went. Otherwise, please make it clear that you mean such statements in a humorous way.










Have to go now. Someone's trying to steal my ham sandwich, so I'm gonna have to blow him and his whole family away. Then, Dr Dirty Harry is coming over and we're gonna watch cartoons and drink chocolate milk.

[dezignpro04]

Originally Posted by lonestarbuzz

i see this quote all the time, and it just bothers me. i'm not anti-gun and i'm not anti-protecting-yourself, but i am anti-shooting-someone-over-a-$20,000-car.

you should have every right to protect yourself and your belongings, but i would hope that you possessed the conscience and moral aptitude to not take another life because he wanted to take your honda.

Nicely put Buzz. I agree. Besides you put your life in danger as well as your family. They could have a gun, or someone else could seek revenge. That's why we pay for car insurance.

[philiam]

If you havn't seen Gran Torino, I recommend it. I think it kind of fits here. Besides it's about a car.

[s2kx2]

Well it certainly appears that we are at an impasse where democracy can be put to the test so I will address the comments in order:

lonestarbuzz “you should have every right to protect yourself and your belongings, but i would hope that you possessed the conscience and moral aptitude to not take another life because he wanted to take your Honda.”

To answer you lonestarbuzz… Thank you. I do have that right, even in California. I as well possess a “moral aptitude”. That said, I am willing to do what is ever required as a situation may dictate. The end result would rest entirely upon the behavior of the criminal perpetrator(s) involved once they were caught in the act and the choices THEY made in the moment.

Marrk “I agree with lonestarbuzz. This is childish. Come on, s2kx2, if you really feel that there is any connection between your statement and reality, then, by all means, go out and shoot a few people and come back and let us know how it went. Otherwise, please make it clear that you mean such statements in a humorous way.”

To answer you Marrk… With all respect Marrk, your comment is childish. To state “go out and shoot a few people and come back and let us know how it went” and not consider the context of the situation or the authors remarks (not mine by the way) points to a naiveté on your part. No offense meant my friend.

dezignpro04 “Nicely put Buzz. I agree. Besides you put your life in danger as well as your family. They could have a gun, or someone else could seek revenge. That's why we pay for car insurance.”

To answer you dezignpro04… True. That is the choice I make if the situation dictates. IF they are armed as well
that places me in an even more legal arena to defend myself as well as my belongings and loved ones. As far as someone seeking revenge goes … I will not live my life in fear of retribution from the criminal elements of society. As far as car insurance goes, I have it because it is mandated by law and unlike car thieves who view their habits as a “legitimate business” I obey the laws that require it. I have insurance to also ease the financial burden of the random events of driving day to day. Fender benders, accidents etc. Auto theft is not an “accident” it is a wanton criminal act that I have chosen to take additional steps to prevent from GPS tracking to alarm systems and staying proficient with my weapons at the target range.

philiam If you havn't seen Gran Torino, I recommend it. I think it kind of fits here. Besides it's about a car.

To answer you philiam… No offense my brother but I do not look to Hollywood or Clint Eastwood (though I do enjoy some of his films) to aide me in the definition of my moral compass. I rely on other documents

I will close with this. This is what makes it all worthwhile …. Though we may not agree on how to handle a given situation the ability to speak our opinions as we see them is most certainly based on how we view life through our own eyes. The beauty comes from the fact that just because we do not agree, that does not mean we cannot still respectfully disagree. Or “My rights end at the tip of my nose just as your rights end at the tip of yours” …. Benjamin Franklin.

[philiam]

"To answer you philiam… No offense my brother but I do not look to Hollywood or Clint Eastwood (though I do enjoy some of his films) to aide me in the definition of my moral compass. I rely on other documents"

Nothing was said about burnishing the rose on your moral compass. I merely stated that it was a good movie about a car and guns. See the movie, then reject or accept whatever is appropriate. Gives a new meaning to "Get off my lawn!"

[D1sclaimer]

[lonestarbuzz]

i see your point, s2kx2. maybe i was quick to assume that you would come out guns a'blazin'. so many folks just say shoot 'em when they use that quote. that's what bothers me. if you want to confront them, it might be a good idea to have a gun. not my style, i'm with dez here. maybe i'm just yeller, or maybe it's because i don't own a gun.

my only question is this: if someone is trying to steal both of your stewies, do you bring two guns?