1999 Mustang Cobra SVT. What do u think of it?

[Punisher]

I'm considering picking one up for the HP. 320 horses is hard to turn down at the good prices you can find.

[Java Junky]

Hey Pun;
I've gotta admit that I'm probably a "Mustang-kinda-person" at heart. They make predictable, easily-used horses like you were turnin' an electric dial. Very easy (n' gobs of fun) to steer with your gas pedal in the corners.
It's certainly a more practical package than Stewie if you've need of more than 2 seats some of the time n' there's no comparison comin' away from a stop. And the last time that I paid attention the price is easier to deal with too.
Driveability-wize it's a much easier car to COMFORTABLY bring closer to the edge of it's abilities than Stewie.
I, personally, can't find alotta fault with it n' if I could have both a 'Stang n' Stewie too I would. If your reasons point to the 'Stang I don't think that you'd be makin' a mistake.
Oh, yeah . . . there's always the 2006 Gargonzolla r' the Baluga, but bang-for-the-buckwize, you'd be hard pressed to find anything as worth the bucks as the 'Stang.
Be well.

[Punisher]

Java,
You've said a lot here. There is NO way to get as much bang for your buck regarding HP and "mod-ability-for-good-price" than with a mustang. I have come to find that I need more than 2 seats, but most importantly (to me) is that I simply cannot accept the fact that here I have a 25,000 dollar car that is really not THAT fast. With the Cobra, I can buy one of those for 10-12 grand and have MANY more horses on my side and demolishing ALL comers. NO, I am not 16 years old, but if a car looks fast (so therefore will be challenged periodically) it should BE fast. Fast enough to answer the challenge.

Anyway, thanks. I am probably going to purchase a '98 Cobra with 58,000 miles and the stock 305 HP. It will be easy to mod this later on, but for now, the power should be adequate.

[chemical]

wells hey i got something for you that an s2000 is a lot fastre than a musatnge thing cuz really all you need to know is what to do and how to drive thats it really im telling you the trueth cuz my s2k can take them easly and its stock you can say

[gomarlins3]

I love the Cobra R, but the price of one has actually gone up I think.

[s2000isu]

your s stock beats cobras easily? do they know youre racing them?

[Java Junky]

Aaay Chem, this has all the earmarks of a "better livin' through chemicals" commercial. Even a bong-smoke haze couldn't hide the difference in the abilities of Stewie n' the Mustang.
I godda go with S2 on this: are they actually aware that there's a race goin' on?
Your loyalty to the marque is commendable, but your claim is jus' a wee bit hard to accept.
Be well.
Java

[chemical]

Originally Posted by Java Junky

Aaay Chem, this has all the earmarks of a "better livin' through chemicals" commercial. Even a bong-smoke haze couldn't hide the difference in the abilities of Stewie n' the Mustang.
I godda go with S2 on this: are they actually aware that there's a race goin' on?
Your loyalty to the marque is commendable, but your claim is jus' a wee bit hard to accept.
Be well.
Java

wells hey java its a erace when they call me out to race and we put 500 dollers on it ok 's and wells yeah i know i was racing you guys should know that mustange have a shitty ass launch i used to have one

[LanceVance]

Originally Posted by chemical

wells hey i got something for you that an s2000 is a lot fastre than a musatnge thing cuz really all you need to know is what to do and how to drive thats it really im telling you the trueth cuz my s2k can take them easly and its stock you can say

Why does your post say its stock, but your sig. say its got a swap? its been said before, lets see it!

[LanceVance]

your 17? how many cars have you gone through allready? if your claims of winning all theses races (Evo, Mustang, etc) have any validity its because you run in the red the entire time. Maybe thats why youve been driving a year and allready have gone through two cars. Did you blow the last engine, or did you swap for fun?

[Senamillia]

I got beat by a GT and We did a 30 roll so I was in VTEC when the race began so I doubt you could even keep up with a Cobra they are very quick off the launch. My friend isn't that good at shifting he just got a manual he never had one before and I have been driving a manual for 4 years now and yes I prolly would have beatin him from a dig just because he is scared to launch but the 30 roll he still pulled on me the end result he beat me by the length of my hood. I am possitive if someone that had more exp the Gt would have killed me off the Dig givin their large amount of Torque.. I have a 00 completly stock black berlina. I bought it with 8k miles on it for 20k finally paid it off I don't think I will ever do any mods to it I believe that I would get much more life out of it if I keep it stock I don't really need to go fast PUting crazy mods on a stewie can be very dangerous for you youngings no matter what you think that much power in a little car could easily killl.. I would rather own a house then have a car that would get me a lot of tickets

[Java Junky]

I wouldn't be so against uppin' the ante with Stewie if, keyword here folks, if, the car as it sits had been fully experienced.
If I may quote some wise words by one of our site brethren "not untill youve mastered what you have."[/quote] (thanks n' hope you don't mind Lance).
Too many times we see newly Stewified members (who haven't got 3 hours behind the wheel of their new ride) on the site talkin' all kind'za lowerin'/springin'/anti-swaybarin'/frizzumbracin'/turboin'/superchargin' that they're jus' itchin' to spend their money on before they even experience what their new ride has to offer stock.
N' if half of 'em actually did spend some time bringin' our li'l Stewie to it's limits, they might be forced to admit that stock, it was already more car than they were capable of usin'.
Be well.
Java

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

AMEN Java

p.s. stock is beautiful

[chemical]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

Why does your post say its stock, but your sig. say its got a swap? its been said before, lets see it!

wells hey all yuor gonna seee is that it says f22c1 thats it it looks stock but its not

[chemical]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

your 17? how many cars have you gone through allready? if your claims of winning all theses races (Evo, Mustang, etc) have any validity its because you run in the red the entire time. Maybe thats why youve been driving a year and allready have gone through two cars. Did you blow the last engine, or did you swap for fun?

wells i blew my first engine cuz of one i was running it tooo hard and wells yeah that engin was about to blow so when the engine blew i found a better one and bigger one and wells this is my fourth car i had a mustange then a prelude then an elcamino and wells befroe that i went threw go carts and quads and wells now i have a s2k and wells its my 2nd engine so yeah

[LanceVance]

Quote all you like, i'm complemented java.
Chem... Anyone who races competently knows the limits of their car... your seventeen and allready on your third engine? Sure you can beat someone, but if your just pedal mashing its not really skill, its just misuse of your car.
Okay... so tell me your S2K with a f22c1 Swap... did you swap the gage to accomidate the redline limit drop to 8,000 rpm? or did you plan on blowing this engine too?

Excerpt from Honda article:

"Following criticism about a lack of low-down torque, Honda introduced a variant of the F20C engine to the North American market in 2004. Designated the F22C1, the stroke of the motor was lengthened, increasing the displacement to 2.2 L. As a result, the redline was reduced to 8,000 rpm (mandated by the longer travel distance of the pistons). T Peak torque was increased by 6%, and the F22C1 was quoted by Honda as having more torque at lower rpm than the F20C, although officially the power output remains the same between the two engines. Initially, the F22C1 was intended only for the North American market, but it was also introduced to Japan in 2006 with specified power of 242 PS (178 kW, 239 hp). The 8,000 rpm redline was one part of a criticism as labeling the the F22C1 models as less raw compared to the F20C1."

Winning a race, without destroying your car is real skill.

[chemical]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

Quote all you like, i'm complemented java.
Chem... Anyone who races competently knows the limits of their car... your seventeen and allready on your third engine? Sure you can beat someone, but if your just pedal mashing its not really skill, its just misuse of your car.
Okay... so tell me your S2K with a f22c1 Swap... did you swap the gage to accomidate the redline limit drop to 8,000 rpm? or did you plan on blowing this engine too?

Excerpt from Honda article:

"Following criticism about a lack of low-down torque, Honda introduced a variant of the F20C engine to the North American market in 2004. Designated the F22C1, the stroke of the motor was lengthened, increasing the displacement to 2.2 L. As a result, the redline was reduced to 8,000 rpm (mandated by the longer travel distance of the pistons). T Peak torque was increased by 6%, and the F22C1 was quoted by Honda as having more torque at lower rpm than the F20C, although officially the power output remains the same between the two engines. Initially, the F22C1 was intended only for the North American market, but it was also introduced to Japan in 2006 with specified power of 242 PS (178 kW, 239 hp). The 8,000 rpm redline was one part of a criticism as labeling the the F22C1 models as less raw compared to the F20C1."

Winning a race, without destroying your car is real skill.

um wells the jackass that had the car before me was already going to blow the engine thats why i got my s2k for 15k and wells the engine i put is just the f22c1 and i kept the old red line of 9k its alot better and no you cant low your engine cuz why the hell would they make chips for the s2k seriously and wells another thing is that no i dont fuck my acr up by racing everyone in theremother i race people that i know might be a challange and wells i did get beat by an evo but hey that evo was running cams 150 shop of niture and wells catback exuast and booost controller and intake and some other **** but he only beat me by 4 cars common really he put alll that **** in it and didnt even imporve as much and wells i got beat by another evo that was boosting at 22 pounds and he had a reflash and some other **** he could only beat me by 2 cars but other wise i beat an evo that had actback and an intake by 2-3 cars

[chemical]

Originally Posted by Senamillia

I got beat by a GT and We did a 30 roll so I was in VTEC when the race began so I doubt you could even keep up with a Cobra they are very quick off the launch. My friend isn't that good at shifting he just got a manual he never had one before and I have been driving a manual for 4 years now and yes I prolly would have beatin him from a dig just because he is scared to launch but the 30 roll he still pulled on me the end result he beat me by the length of my hood. I am possitive if someone that had more exp the Gt would have killed me off the Dig givin their large amount of Torque.. I have a 00 completly stock black berlina. I bought it with 8k miles on it for 20k finally paid it off I don't think I will ever do any mods to it I believe that I would get much more life out of it if I keep it stock I don't really need to go fast PUting crazy mods on a stewie can be very dangerous for you youngings no matter what you think that much power in a little car could easily killl.. I would rather own a house then have a car that would get me a lot of tickets

tell me how the hells did you get beat by that slow ass car my brothers old prelude keeps up with them all the way to 3rd gear and wells its funny cuz i was in the back in my car and wells i said its my turn to play with the small fry lolz and wells my ass just fly's passed both of them

[LanceVance]

chips for the S2k? what does that have to do with it? its not stock, so using a stock chip (or even third party) doesnt compensate for such drastic changes, its the engine itself that cant handle the 9000 rpms, not the chip or tranny. Drive it in the 9000 rpm ranges, and it wont last long (no matter how much tuning, its beyond the capabilities of the engine.)

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

I don't think this kid knows what hes talking about

[Tim Gedney]

A comma...a period...the occasional semicolon perhaps...SOMETHING! You're killing me!

[s2000isu]

well i meen lets think about it a stock evo runs what like a 13.2 with 17 psi and a descent driver. So generally each pound of boost comes out to about 10 hp so that meens he is going to get give or take 50 more hp from bumping the boost from 17 to 22 psi. Then theres the reflash most reflashes lean it out to a perfect a/f and give it a little more timing. Plus whatever other little mods he had. Lets say with the added boost the new tune and whatever else he has 70 more hp which is prolly on the low side. So a car running 13.2 stock with 70 more hp should be well into the 12's so you must have one hell of a freak car or the evo guy didnt have a clue. But i find it funny 2 evo guys didnt have a clue mustang guys dont have a clue. Not calling you a liar but i think we all need to see pics and videos id like to see a video of you going down the track myself. Cause if what you say is true then i think you have one of the fastest na s2000's out their thats not a all out race car

[chemical]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

well i meen lets think about it a stock evo runs what like a 13.2 with 17 psi and a descent driver. So generally each pound of boost comes out to about 10 hp so that meens he is going to get give or take 50 more hp from bumping the boost from 17 to 22 psi. Then theres the reflash most reflashes lean it out to a perfect a/f and give it a little more timing. Plus whatever other little mods he had. Lets say with the added boost the new tune and whatever else he has 70 more hp which is prolly on the low side. So a car running 13.2 stock with 70 more hp should be well into the 12's so you must have one hell of a freak car or the evo guy didnt have a clue. But i find it funny 2 evo guys didnt have a clue mustang guys dont have a clue. Not calling you a liar but i think we all need to see pics and videos id like to see a video of you going down the track myself. Cause if what you say is true then i think you have one of the fastest na s2000's out their thats not a all out race car

wells if you knew anything a stock evo doesnt run no 13second run thats a damm lie they run a low 14 bearly common now a real s2000 runs a 15 or so i think its not what the internet says or what a mag says cuz all that **** is lies cuz be real what are the chance any of you guys would run that not even and wells hey i got a video for you guys of me running an evo from that luanch ok's

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[s2000isu]

First of all I was polite about it before but I am throwing up a huge bs flag. "wells if you knew anything a stock evo doesnt run no 13second run thats a damm lie" I will be sure to tell my friends with evos that they didnt really run those times the track made a miistake. Infact im gonna go write Atco tomorrow and complain. If someone is running 14's in an evo they deserve to have it taken away. If someone has had the s2000 for a while and raced it more then once and is running 15's they should also lose the car too take a look around at the times people are getting. Even if what you say is true and youre running a 2.2 at 9k rpms I am sure it would do it for a little while but due to the longer stroke id imagine youd run into some problems not to long down the line. Not to mention just because a motor can rev to a certain rpm doesnt meen it continues to make power up high. Lets say they power continues to rise and peaks at 8300 like on the 2.0 where are you gonna be 250 255 crank hp? Basically your claims are that a 2.2 with an extra 1000 rpms is beating up on highly modified turbo cars. As I always said driver has alot to do with winning or losing a race so maybe the evo and mustang drivers have some racing issues so the easy way to figure out what the deal with your car is what quarter mile times have you put down? Oh and you dont need to put a s at the end of every other word.

[chemical]

well um maybe if i ever went to the track i would show you my time slip but other wise all you'll see is street races and well if you dont want to belive it that i guess an extra 1000 rpms to go it does make a differnce and well i havnt ran into any problems yet and ive had that motor in there for about a year and a half i think of more

[chemical]

wells hey s2000isu what the hell makes you an expert in the s2000 you havn even had your car for a year common now seriously ive at least had mine for 2 years damm

[LanceVance]

Originally Posted by chemical

wells hey s2000isu what the hell makes you an expert in the s2000 you havn even had your car for a year common now seriously ive at least had mine for 2 years damm

I thought you were 17 an had a mustang before the S2k? your parents let you drive high powered sportscars at 15?

[LanceVance]

aww...you even changed you sig... chill man

[s2000isu]

damn lance nice catch 2 years ago he was 15 lol i guess that meens when he was 14 he was driving the mustang. I am no expert on the s2000 im more of an expert of my other car haha. What I do have though is common sence. A 2.2 revved 1k over stock is not going to gain you the hp you would need to stomp all these cars. You might gain a few hp but theres no way to confirm that without some dyno time and even if you could gain 10-15 its not worth the strain being put on that poor little crank and bearings. Just knowing how engines work tells me all of this I dont need to be an expert on the s2000. Just a little common sence and a little knowledge about building motors.

[Halo]

You guys are arguing with a kid that hasn't even driven an S2000, much less own one and do an engine swap. Any of you who drive one, even on a semi-regular basis, can't seriously read what this kid writes and believe it, can you?

There are no 'chips' made for the S2000. You can put in a standalone ECU, but this isn't the same as an ECU upgrade as is possible on some cars. The 06+ models have the potential for a chip upgrade, but one has yet to materialize.

[s2000isu]

oh i know i smelled bs after reading his first post. So of course since i have tons of time on my hands and im a forum whore i played along lol. Now i am just enjoying a good well not really good but a argument

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

I've only had my S2000 for a year and I know alot about it.

The guy who owned it before me treated it like crap so I've had to do ALOT of work on it.

So I know my way around it, but to all my fellow S2000 owners here we are not just S2000 owners we are enthusiasts.

So anyone on this site who actually OWNS an S2000 is close to an expert.

[chemical]

ha ha ha funny peoples i cant belive you guys dont think i have an s2000 its funny cuz yeah i drove at age what 12 but i got my first rie at 13 half and wells the ting is if you drive rite then a cop wont bug you or catch you ok's and wells my s2k ive had for a good time and wells its even funnyer how everyones thinking bs lies about me why the hell would i sighn up for a forum if i didnt have one i only sighned up for it to get parts ceaper thats it hello?? damm use some commen sence jeez wells you guys dont be mad cuz your guysses s2k's are little girls and mine has balls lolz **** its not my fault i actually know how to drive **** i can tell s2k owners dont know how to drive cuz damm today on the freeway me and my bro smashed on an s2k with a stock hatchback lolz on the freeway its funny cuz **** you got an s2k and you cant keep up with a slow peice of **** in traffic that jackass kept on getting blocked in it was funny as hell wells i gots to go lates

[s2000isu]

s2k's are pretty quick we just arent full of it like you are. also what country do you live in? As far as the stock hatch goes did the s2 know you were racing? Because as luck would have it I posted about a week ago me racing my blown up car against the fastest stock hatch honda has made yet. A new si amd the times are not s2000 times. I just read a little farther down you were beating him when you got to traffic. Maybe thats how you win all your races in your hatch not your friends. You go flying through traffic at 100 miles per hour weaving in or out and the other people have enough common sence not to do it cause it only takes one guy switching lanes and not seeing you coming up at 100 miles per hour. Some people dont want to be that guy on the news that killed the family going home or planted himself into a overpass right after he crashed 3 other cars. I will admit im young and dumb and have gotten in a few of these races but I have enough common sence at my age to not do 99% of them you stop at traffic not push through it.

[Halo]

Now that's more realistic. You as a passenger in a stock Civic hatch. Is it mommie's or daddie's?

I'm sure every S owner has had some loser in a ricer Civic try to challenge them on the freeway with all sorts of traffic. Funny thing, if you can actually get next to them and ask if they want to do a real run, away from traffic, they always have something more important to do Go figure.

[Java Junky]

Well, I'd've lost a bundle on this. 'Never figured it would'a got past 2, maybe 3 of chem's posts, tops.
I guess it's a slow news day at the ol' S2000 site.
Be well.
Java

[chemical]

yuo guys are sure you guys own a s2k cuz im pretty sure i do i just dont think you guys do are you sure they didnt sell you a civic and told you it was an s2000??? wells hey i got my pics of mine wheres yours?? and weells hey i dont ncare if you guys dont belive me if you guys wanna race im down ok

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

WHAT PICS????? if you want to see my S2000 I have a ton of pics on my album here at S2000.com check it out

[chemical]

Originally Posted by HELL_ON_WHEELS

WHAT PICS????? if you want to see my S2000 I have a ton of pics on my album here at S2000.com check it out

how the fuckk do you upload pics so then i can show you guys

[Bonezz2k]

dam the post dead i was getting a good read, very entertaining. please continue.