Looking into S2000...

[LanceVance]

Hey, im looking into which car i want to buy to be my hobby (make it fast, and look good, all that) car. What should i know about the S2000, what are the pros and cons for each year? what should i look for? Any suggestions or comments on the car would be appreciated.

And incase anyone was wondering, the competition is the Mitsubishi Evolution.

[LanceVance]

Mods im wondering if they are available for the S2k are:
CF Hood/Trunk
CF Trunk LIP
Angel Eye Heads, Pref. with HID
Sub sizes that can fit in trunk,
Wheel size possibilites,
will Recaros Fit?
any answers to these questions would be appreciated, and hopefully help my in my buying decission! thanks again

[gomarlins3]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

Mods im wondering if they are available for the S2k are:
CF Hood/Trunk
CF Trunk LIP
Angel Eye Heads, Pref. with HID
Sub sizes that can fit in trunk,
Wheel size possibilites,
will Recaros Fit?
any answers to these questions would be appreciated, and hopefully help my in my buying decission! thanks again

CF Hood/ Truck= yes, a couple of companies make them.
CF Trunk lip= yes, see above
Angel eye heads= none that I have ever seen, but HID's are OEM.
Sub size= Not sure, but I know 8" will fit. I would bet a 10" would fit as well, but not sure.
Wheels= I have seen 19's but they don't look right. 18's are popular and 17's are OEM on AP2's.
Recaros= OEM seat are Recaro made, so I don't see why not.

[s2000isu]

Hmm the evo and s2000 are kinda different cars. I recomend doing some googling if youre really serious about either you can find lots of info about performance upgrades and so on.

[LanceVance]

Yeah, they are pretty different cars, each has its own pros and cons, but is there anything i should know that i can only hear from someone whos owned an S2000? (customer review i guess?) I like that the Evo has such an aggressive stance, and impressive power stock, Rally based suspension is great, but i love the way the S2k handles, like a true roadster, its really just what i decide i like more, Rally or Roadster...

[sirploppy]

I owned a 2003 Evo before my 2006 S2k.

The Evo is a great car. Handles great, with $1k worth of mods it really hauls -> faster than the S. The downsides to the Evo is maintenance costs, fuel economy, and every kid with a Civic or Camaro wants to race you. I do miss the brute power of the Evo, but the S is really fun to drive fast. The S does get noticeably faster after about 5k miles. I wish i could have both!

Originally Posted by LanceVance

Yeah, they are pretty different cars, each has its own pros and cons, but is there anything i should know that i can only hear from someone whos owned an S2000? (customer review i guess?) I like that the Evo has such an aggressive stance, and impressive power stock, Rally based suspension is great, but i love the way the S2k handles, like a true roadster, its really just what i decide i like more, Rally or Roadster...

[LanceVance]

Yeah, i own a 06' lancer ES now, and maintenance is pricey, with an EVO even more, as for the civics and camaros... Sounds like fun, not to trash on hondas, but every civic ive raced (turbo, or not) cant hold up. (Maby ive just raced crappy ones) There are just too many civics with cans and aluminum spoilers... But the S2000 really is a performance car, kicks my ES for sure. And with mods ive heard can get pretty fast. The performance/size ratio is really impressive.

[chemical]

wells hey you guys its kinda funny how people think evo's are fast they aint **** if you got a s2000 i can tell you that cuz wells hey i got one and its a 02 and wells i got a lil somehting under the hood and wells its funny to race them all i got to say is make sure you get the f22c1 ok's

[LanceVance]

And so it starts...
EVO:
286 hp at 6,500 rpm and 289 lb-ft of torque at 3,500 rpm Stock
governor-limited 155 miles per hour top speed

S2K:
240 hp at 9000 rpm and 153 lb-ft of torque at 7500 rpm Stock
gear limited to 156 miles per hour top speed

SO.... stock the S2k can go one miles per hour faster... woot... which you cant chainge unless you tear appart your car. change the ECU on the evo, and the only limit is the engine and your abilities.
Both of them can be modded to be conciderable faster, but the evos base is always going to be better because:
A.) Bigger Engine
B.) Bigger Gears
C.) Bigger Suspension

All tuning does is tap into the unused energy and potential an engine has, it doesnt make it faster, it only makes it more effecient.
And the Evo engine has alot more potential to untap than an S2K.

S2000 is good because
A.) Looks
B.) Engine size/stats ratio
C.) Aerodynamics

The S2000 is a sports car, the Evo is a toned down racecar. if you beat an Evo you had alot under the hood (and the evo had little) not just a little something, or you were racing an lancer ES, OZ, or RA with a spoiler, there are more of them than Evos, and evolution owners hate it for the reps it gives them when they get killed in races.

Im sure an S2000 could beat an evo, but not without conciderable mods, luck, and a horrible driver in the mitsu. Show me the evo, and the S2000.
Both are fun to drive, but there is a big gap in performance

[LanceVance]

what is "f22c1 ok's"?

what engine did you swap for? If your going to say your S2000 with "a lil somehting under the hood" beat an evo, then you should mention your little something is actually a big replaced EVERYTHING

An evo with a McLaren engine isnt just an evo, its an McLaren with a Evo Body, your no longer driving an S2000, your driving a custom. If you registered your vehicle correctly it should say something about it.

who bought the S2K for you?

[Java Junky]

Curiosity: anyone got the weight difference between the two? Which has the edge in pullin' Gs in a corner?
Thanks.
Java

[LanceVance]

EVO:
Curb Weight (lbs.) 3,338
Weight Distribution (front/rear) 60/40
S2K:
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2,835
Weight Distribution (front/rear) 49/51

Suspension has to be taken into account.
Years may not be same as well.

[s2000isu]

ya chemical lets see some pics of this swap you did. youve mentioned it in a few posts so lets see it

[LanceVance]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

ya chemical lets see some pics of this swap you did. youve mentioned it in a few posts so lets see it

I Second this

[chemical]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

And so it starts...
EVO:
286 hp at 6,500 rpm and 289 lb-ft of torque at 3,500 rpm Stock
governor-limited 155 miles per hour top speed

S2K:
240 hp at 9000 rpm and 153 lb-ft of torque at 7500 rpm Stock
gear limited to 156 miles per hour top speed

SO.... stock the S2k can go one miles per hour faster... woot... which you cant chainge unless you tear appart your car. change the ECU on the evo, and the only limit is the engine and your abilities.
Both of them can be modded to be conciderable faster, but the evos base is always going to be better because:
A.) Bigger Engine
B.) Bigger Gears
C.) Bigger Suspension

All tuning does is tap into the unused energy and potential an engine has, it doesnt make it faster, it only makes it more effecient.
And the Evo engine has alot more potential to untap than an S2K.

S2000 is good because
A.) Looks
B.) Engine size/stats ratio
C.) Aerodynamics

The S2000 is a sports car, the Evo is a toned down racecar. if you beat an Evo you had alot under the hood (and the evo had little) not just a little something, or you were racing an lancer ES, OZ, or RA with a spoiler, there are more of them than Evos, and evolution owners hate it for the reps it gives them when they get killed in races.

Im sure an S2000 could beat an evo, but not without conciderable mods, luck, and a horrible driver in the mitsu. Show me the evo, and the S2000.
Both are fun to drive, but there is a big gap in performance

wells hey the swap i got is an f22c1 if you know what that is its an 2005 engine and wells i still got the old tranny and wells o2 parts in it and wells its kinda hard to explian but hey if i could post the video of me smoking the **** out of the evo then i would cuz really i ahd the top down and i gave him a car heads start and wells hey i beat that evo by 3 cars i think and my friend was in the car too so yeah ill post some picture of it in a couple of days ok and the engine but you wont be able to see anything thow

[LanceVance]

Show me pics and dyno stats, and the engine still running in a year and ill be impressed.

Chem, Im' not trying to get you pissed off, but when you claim your stock ride beat all these other cars when its not stock gets old. If you want the mystique of it being fixed up but looking stock just call it a "sleeper". Fantastical claims dont impress, but if you show that your rides really is a monster in disguise we'll all be more impressed.

Looking forward to the pics.

If its any consolation, the cars i have raced are as follows:
(this with Lancer ES)

Lost against:
Pontiac GTO (stock) rolling start, 40mph

Won against:
Civic, one with a can and intake, on with pin stripes, on with vinyls, one with turbo, etc...etc... from standstill
2004 Lancer ES stock from standstill

Tied/Other:
My friend Scion TC
Pontiac Grand Prix (he got pulled over )

not all that impressive...but then again its an ES, not a racecar.

[Halo]

Finally, someone who lives in reality (Lance).

If you're looking for a weekend toy, I'd say get the S. There is nothing like putting the top down and just going for drive through some twisties.

If the car will have other functions (like putting a roof rack on once in a while to carry a bike or driving in weather or carrying a few friends), or you want to really be into the modding scene and get lots of hp for your $, then the Evolution is the right choice.

I don't know how important reliability is (especially in a weekend toy), but the S has been rock solid in all the CU reviews. The Evo isn't too bad either (and sure everyone knows someone that knows someone that is running 100psi on stock internals and the dealer is still honoring the warranty), but not quite so bulletproof.


PS- I am 99% sure that Chemical hasn't even driven an S2000, unless it was the 3D rendered type, much less own one. Bored out F20c -> F22c swap. Um no. (Not saying F22c swap can't be done, Billman and Hardtopguy on S2ki.com have done this, but then they can write a coherent sentence and can describe in detail what it entailed).

[chemical]

Originally Posted by Halo

Finally, someone who lives in reality (Lance).

If you're looking for a weekend toy, I'd say get the S. There is nothing like putting the top down and just going for drive through some twisties.

If the car will have other functions (like putting a roof rack on once in a while to carry a bike or driving in weather or carrying a few friends), or you want to really be into the modding scene and get lots of hp for your $, then the Evolution is the right choice.

I don't know how important reliability is (especially in a weekend toy), but the S has been rock solid in all the CU reviews. The Evo isn't too bad either (and sure everyone knows someone that knows someone that is running 100psi on stock internals and the dealer is still honoring the warranty), but not quite so bulletproof.


PS- I am 99% sure that Chemical hasn't even driven an S2000, unless it was the 3D rendered type, much less own one. Bored out F20c -> F22c swap. Um no. (Not saying F22c swap can't be done, Billman and Hardtopguy on S2ki.com have done this, but then they can write a coherent sentence and can describe in detail what it entailed).

PS im 1000% sure that i do have a damm s2000 and wells i now just posted a some videos of me racing an evo from the start not a roll oks and i beat him by a good 2 to 3 racs i think of more

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[s2000isu]

i guess you couldnt find a video on youtube of your first claim topdown with the evo getting a head start lol

[chemical]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

i guess you couldnt find a video on youtube of your first claim topdown with the evo getting a head start lol

wells my bad i havnt posted it yet dont trip it will be up in a couple of days cuz its in camera tape and i need to find it but hey you wanna know something funny about the race i posted up first even the owner of that evo said i was going to win cuz he saw me beat the first one aint that a shame lolz ha ha ha wells ill get the footage up ok and then the rest of you s2000 owners can know what a s2000 can do ok's oh yeah

PS why dont you say **** about the race with the grey evo?? wells hey that evo was pretty good just not good enough i guess lolz lates

[Java Junky]

@*#&in' aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!!!!!

[chemical]

Originally Posted by Java Junky

@*#&in' aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!!!!!

whats wrong??? why are you mad now???

[chemical]

Originally Posted by LanceVance

Show me pics and dyno stats, and the engine still running in a year and ill be impressed.

Chem, Im' not trying to get you pissed off, but when you claim your stock ride beat all these other cars when its not stock gets old. If you want the mystique of it being fixed up but looking stock just call it a "sleeper". Fantastical claims dont impress, but if you show that your rides really is a monster in disguise we'll all be more impressed.

Looking forward to the pics.

If its any consolation, the cars i have raced are as follows:
(this with Lancer ES)

Lost against:
Pontiac GTO (stock) rolling start, 40mph

Won against:
Civic, one with a can and intake, on with pin stripes, on with vinyls, one with turbo, etc...etc... from standstill
2004 Lancer ES stock from standstill

Tied/Other:
My friend Scion TC
Pontiac Grand Prix (he got pulled over )

not all that impressive...but then again its an ES, not a racecar.

um ive had my car for 2 years i think and the first 6 months of owning it i blew it and wells i havnt blow the second engine it can really take alot more that a 2.0

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

Originally Posted by chemical

um ive had my car for 2 years i think and the first 6 months of owning it i blew it and wells i havnt blow the second engine it can really take alot more that a 2.0

what??? you make no sense if you talk like you type...oh nevermind

[chemical]

what the fanck are you talking about im just saying that all the stock s2000 with a 2.0 are slow thats it ok