Top Gear?

SilverS2K422 · 02-20-2008, 09:35 PM

I topped my 02 out the other day at 144, I only have exhuast and intake. The thing that was wierd is that the rev was bouncing on 7k rpms. Is ther a govener??

philiam · 02-20-2008, 10:01 PM

5th and 6th are overdrive gears. They won't let you max the RPM.

They're for economy and crusin.

SilverS2K422 · 02-20-2008, 10:13 PM

5th gear will got to 9k and ive watched a video of some guy in his S go to 9k in 6th gear at 155mph

philiam · 02-20-2008, 10:46 PM

What final drive ratio was he running. That makes a lot of difference.

SilverS2K422 · 02-21-2008, 01:18 AM

not sure it was on youtube.

philiam · 02-21-2008, 01:41 AM

If you change out your differential gears to a higher number the revs will go up in 5th and 6th. The purpose of overdrive is to drop the revs for cruising and mileage.

Also, what was he running. If he was super or turbo charged, it's a whole new ballgame.

seeno · 02-21-2008, 04:21 AM

You can reach 9k on 5th gear, i've done it in a completley stock 08 model, not sure about 6th gear though

DJJSR · 02-21-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seeno

You can reach 9k on 5th gear, i've done it in a completley stock 08 model, not sure about 6th gear though

I didn't know an AP2 would do 9 grand in ANY gear!

Neil · 02-21-2008, 06:52 AM

In Canada get caught racing and your ride will get crushed .....new or not.
The only time to get around 9k in 5th or 6th for me will be on a race track.

Neil

controller · 02-21-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJSR

I didn't know an AP2 would do 9 grand in ANY gear!

If that AP2 isn't in North America, it will 9k

sonic · 02-21-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by seeno

You can reach 9k on 5th gear, i've done it in a completley stock 08 model, not sure about 6th gear though

I'm really interested in how you accomplished that in an AP2 as well. Do tell.

DJJSR · 02-21-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by seeno

You can reach 9k on 5th gear, i've done it in a completley stock 08 model, not sure about 6th gear though

Oh, now I get it. I see by your previous posts that you're across the pond, where the new cars still get the AP1 engine.

gomarlins3 · 02-21-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by controller

If that AP2 isn't in North America, it will 9k

An American AP2 will rev to 9,000 RPM's, once.......................... just once.

jagg · 02-21-2008, 01:06 PM

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An American AP2 will rev to 9,000 RPM's, once.......................... just once.

GM3 made a funny.............Good one Go!!

regards,
jagg

Pablo · 02-21-2008, 01:48 PM

So what is the top end of a US AP2? I'm reving about 4K at about 75 miles per hour. In theory I guess that would mean about 150 MPH. Sorry for always making reference to my old Blackbird, but she had a claimed top end of 185. I can only vouch for 175 indicated, on a track of course and with a professional driver.....

bbcricketta · 02-21-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

So what is the top end of a US AP2? I'm reving about 4K at about 75 miles per hour. In theory I guess that would mean about 150 miles per hour. Sorry for always making reference to my old Blackbird, but she had a claimed top end of 185. I can only vouch for 175 indicated, on a track of course and with a professional driver.....

ap2 is supposed to do 150 miles per hour. i do not know what gear or rpm. i also get 75 miles per hour at 4000 rpm in 6th gear. imagine that. bone stock. and i did not see ref to your blackbird. what was she?

Pablo · 02-21-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bbcricketta

i did not see ref to your blackbird. what was she?

My "Bird" Mothers CBR XX 1999........I stupidly sold her about 2 years ago.

philiam · 02-21-2008, 06:36 PM

Around here I can only get to 9K in second. I figure it should do 90 in third, but second is about the speed limit and yellow is too easy to spot .

jagg · 02-21-2008, 06:55 PM

philiam

Quote:

Around here I can only get to 9K in second. I figure it should do 90 in third, but second is about the speed limit and yellow is too easy to spot .

Today 04:26 PM

I concur Philiam. I see third gear pushing redline, with some regularity, when the asphalt's warm enough for it. (I'm in the boonies, so I've got it up a notch.)
Fourth gear redline has been achieved, but it's been a rarity in comparison. On a similar note, the 3-4 shift at high revs in the Stewie is of the highest quality I've seen in 99% of all cars I've ever driven.
There's an inherent balance built into it.....it's like riding a bicycle, or being able to stand on your hands......You can do it, or you can't.
Kinda like driving a Porsche, you've gotta find the sweet spot, neutral to your default input, and drive it there. The thrill of the ride is being able to keep it there.
Your car history Philiam, would lead me to believe that you could cop to this particular idea.

Regards,
Jagg

philiam · 02-21-2008, 07:22 PM

My old 356's were very throttle sensitive. I could corner without much steering wheel input. Just bring the rear around and nail it.
Without a doubt the stewie has the best gearbox I've ever felt. It's like flicking a switch. I really enjoy doing a lot of shifting. Feels like I'm in control, not the car.

Daddy Zach · 02-22-2008, 01:31 PM

Phil,
Did you own a 356????
Got any pics?
That is one of the very few cars I might part with stewie for

philiam · 02-22-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Zach

Phil,
Did you own a 356????
Got any pics?
That is one of the very few cars I might part with stewie for

I had 2 of them. A speedster and a convertible D. Stewie is a better car. They were fun if you knew how to drive them. Otherwise they were an accident waiting to happen. Kind of like throwing a dart backwards. The speedster seats were similar the S2000's and comfortable on long drives.

The original was designed in a French jail by Dr. Porsche, based on VW parts. His son Ferdie smuggled the plans out to raise money for his release.

jagg · 02-22-2008, 06:37 PM

Greetings Phil,

the S2000 is similar, in the respect that when driving at or near the limit, you pay the price for letting off the throttle more so than other cars. The 356 was no stranger to swapin' ends either. Sound familiar?
Granted, 50 years of automotive advancement isn't hurting Stewie one bit, and helps it out in a big way towards being a good daily (and much more safe)driver........But when put to purpose, they get alot more alike in nature. Drive it bravely and it won't let you down......chicken out, and you're going backwards in what ever trajectory you were headed beforehand.
Sports cars, Ahhhhh.

Regards,
Jagg

philiam · 02-22-2008, 07:21 PM

Didn't help that it had swing axles. Sure was fun to drive though.
I remember driving over a mountain road and seeing a tow truck with
something dangling form the hook. In the twisted pile of metal
there was one remaining wheel identifying it as a 356.

I never spun it though and haven't spun stewie (yet) either.

Java Junky · 02-22-2008, 10:02 PM

Sheesh! I wuz missin' this.
(Jagg tol' me that this thread wuz about hats.)
I've only admired 356s and whut I'd seen 'em doo at the hands'uv real drivers. 'Heard most'uv'a stories about their scariness to the inattentive . . . . hm-m-m-m-m-m . . . very similar to what many've said of Stewie, but there'z no surprise there, is there? They're both the autoworld'z version'uv the epee: feather-light n' perfectly balanced.
'Had no idea about the French jail story though Phil. You jus' keep lettin' loose with these juicy li'l tidbits n' everytime yadoo, another facet'a Philiam that was in darkness catches the light.
I'll keep buyin' n' pryin' if you keep tellin' us stories.
Saa-aaaaam!
Thanks guys,
Java

philiam · 02-22-2008, 10:39 PM

After the war to end all wars WW2, the french invited Dr. Porsche
over to jump start their auto industry. When he went, they arrested
him as a Nazi war criminal. Hence, the hopped up VW named after
him, which was designed in jail.

Another piece of trivia. Who knows where the name Mercedes comes
from as used by Daimler Benz?

Java Junky · 02-22-2008, 11:36 PM

'Add'id be originally after somebody'z daughter.
Who the somebody wuz . . . .
Rough parents who'd name a liddle girl after a German car. Sheesh!

02-20-2008, 09:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 B.A.M.F. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 578	Top Gear? I topped my 02 out the other day at 144, I only have exhuast and intake. The thing that was wierd is that the rev was bouncing on 7k rpms. Is ther a govener??

02-20-2008, 10:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	5th and 6th are overdrive gears. They won't let you max the RPM. They're for economy and crusin. __________________

02-20-2008, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	What final drive ratio was he running. That makes a lot of difference. __________________

02-21-2008, 01:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	If you change out your differential gears to a higher number the revs will go up in 5th and 6th. The purpose of overdrive is to drop the revs for cruising and mileage. Also, what was he running. If he was super or turbo charged, it's a whole new ballgame. __________________ Last edited by philiam; 02-21-2008 at 01:43 AM.

02-21-2008, 01:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 601	So what is the top end of a US AP2? I'm reving about 4K at about 75 miles per hour. In theory I guess that would mean about 150 MPH. Sorry for always making reference to my old Blackbird, but she had a claimed top end of 185. I can only vouch for 175 indicated, on a track of course and with a professional driver..... __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

02-20-2008, 10:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 B.A.M.F. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 578	5th gear will got to 9k and ive watched a video of some guy in his S go to 9k in 6th gear at 155mph

02-21-2008, 01:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 B.A.M.F. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 578	not sure it was on youtube.

02-21-2008, 04:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
seeno Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 19	You can reach 9k on 5th gear, i've done it in a completley stock 08 model, not sure about 6th gear though

02-21-2008, 06:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,026	In Canada get caught racing and your ride will get crushed .....new or not. The only time to get around 9k in 5th or 6th for me will be on a race track. Neil

02-21-2008, 06:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	Around here I can only get to 9K in second. I figure it should do 90 in third, but second is about the speed limit and yellow is too easy to spot . __________________

02-21-2008, 07:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	My old 356's were very throttle sensitive. I could corner without much steering wheel input. Just bring the rear around and nail it. Without a doubt the stewie has the best gearbox I've ever felt. It's like flicking a switch. I really enjoy doing a lot of shifting. Feels like I'm in control, not the car. __________________

02-22-2008, 01:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
Daddy Zach Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great White North Posts: 233	Phil, Did you own a 356???? Got any pics? That is one of the very few cars I might part with stewie for __________________ Black is still the coolest color

02-22-2008, 06:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,526	Greetings Phil, the S2000 is similar, in the respect that when driving at or near the limit, you pay the price for letting off the throttle more so than other cars. The 356 was no stranger to swapin' ends either. Sound familiar? Granted, 50 years of automotive advancement isn't hurting Stewie one bit, and helps it out in a big way towards being a good daily (and much more safe)driver........But when put to purpose, they get alot more alike in nature. Drive it bravely and it won't let you down......chicken out, and you're going backwards in what ever trajectory you were headed beforehand. Sports cars, Ahhhhh. Regards, Jagg

02-22-2008, 07:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	Didn't help that it had swing axles. Sure was fun to drive though. I remember driving over a mountain road and seeing a tow truck with something dangling form the hook. In the twisted pile of metal there was one remaining wheel identifying it as a 356. I never spun it though and haven't spun stewie (yet) either. __________________

02-22-2008, 10:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,433	Sheesh! I wuz missin' this. (Jagg tol' me that this thread wuz about hats.) I've only admired 356s and whut I'd seen 'em doo at the hands'uv real drivers. 'Heard most'uv'a stories about their scariness to the inattentive . . . . hm-m-m-m-m-m . . . *very* similar to what many've said of Stewie, but there'z no surprise there, is there? They're both the autoworld'z version'uv the epee: feather-light n' perfectly balanced. 'Had no idea about the French jail story though Phil. You jus' keep lettin' loose with these juicy li'l tidbits n' everytime yadoo, another facet'a Philiam that was in darkness catches the light. I'll keep buyin' n' pryin' if you keep tellin' us stories. Saa-aaaaam! Thanks guys, Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

02-22-2008, 10:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,639	After the war to end all wars WW2, the french invited Dr. Porsche over to jump start their auto industry. When he went, they arrested him as a Nazi war criminal. Hence, the hopped up VW named after him, which was designed in jail. Another piece of trivia. Who knows where the name Mercedes comes from as used by Daimler Benz? __________________

02-22-2008, 11:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 5,433	'Add'id be originally after somebody'z daughter. Who the somebody wuz . . . . Rough parents who'd name a liddle girl after a German car. Sheesh! __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.