Headers?

cmiller219 · 07-01-2008, 10:51 AM

how come know one ever talks about what headers they have everyone says they have a cat back. is there a reason for this? are the oem headers good? whats the deal with this?

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

how come know one ever talks about what headers they have everyone says they have a cat back. is there a reason for this? are the oem headers good? whats the deal with this?

You are correct. Headers and exhaust are very, very good in stock form. They don't produce much horsepower when changed to after market. The main reason we change the stock exhaust is because the weighs quite a bit, and going after market can save you 40 - 50 pounds in some cases.

Back to the header question, the answer is really no. They don't produce much in the way of numbers. People report a change with there "butt dyno", but most of the time that is about it. If you would like after market, go either Berk, or spend some cash and go Mugen (isn't worth it in my opinion). Or be like me and stick with stock. Going with a cat back and a test pipe is a better route IMO..

My 02.

D1sclaimer · 07-01-2008, 11:05 AM

Headers for our car are not cost efficient. You could spend 600 dollars and gain up to 10whp mid range, and lose 1-2 peak whp.

cmiller219 · 07-01-2008, 11:08 AM

thats what i wanted to hear now i want to purchase an catback but i dont want it loud or ricy if u know what i mean and im willing to spend up to $1,000. i also want dual tips. where and what is a good system to purchase for aan 05

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

thats what i wanted to hear now i want to purchase an catback but i dont want it loud or ricy if u know what i mean and im willing to spend up to $1,000. i also want dual tips. where and what is a good system to purchase for aan 05

I have an Invidia Dual Catback System.

I love this exhaust. It is too loud for some, but doesn't sound ricer. You can also go for a HKS High Power. It is dual exhaust as well. Those are the two best IMO. And don't go single if you are trying to stay away from ricer, unless you have a turbo that is....

cmiller219 · 07-01-2008, 11:13 AM

thanks for the help everyone.

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

thanks for the help everyone.

Sure. Thats what we are here for.. That and the dough nuts...

cmiller219 · 07-01-2008, 11:15 AM

have u heard anything about the invedia G200

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

have u heard anything about the invedia G200

The G200 are single for the S2000 I think. If you want dual go this route..

It is the one I have..

http://www.alamomotorsports.com/invi..._honda.html#16

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 11:28 AM

Here is another...

http://www.raceinspired.com/p-216-in...2000-2006.aspx

desmo4 · 07-01-2008, 12:20 PM

Mugen headers produce 10 more hp in the mid range and the gain is very noticeable. You can pole all of us that have them. Cost effectiveness is a non issue.

Jonathan

desmo4 · 07-01-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

how come know one ever talks about what headers they have everyone says they have a cat back. is there a reason for this? are the oem headers good? whats the deal with this?

Because nobody is willing to spend the money for headers that actually do anything.

Jonathan

TheCarGuy2021 · 07-01-2008, 12:24 PM

I loved my old Invidia, almost nothing compares to it for sound quality, but it is very loud.

I opted to make my full 3" exhaust with a Megan can and just 2 bends for my turbo setup.

Swingle1 · 07-01-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by desmo4

You can pole all of us that have them.

Jonathan

That's what she said.

jagg · 07-01-2008, 12:39 PM

Pretty sure they got poled when they bought them.

jagg

dezignpro04 · 07-01-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jagg

Pretty sure they got poled when they bought them.

jagg

LMAO!!!

Good ol "Ben Dover" !!!

kgf3076 · 07-01-2008, 01:33 PM

with the exception of a minor "Polling" issue, Desmo4 is correct. The Mugen header gives a definite HP boost in the mid-range. It's not only a butt-dyno feeling its a actual rear wheel HP gain.

lonestarbuzz · 07-01-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Swingle1

That's what she said.

hahahahahahahahha

DJJSR · 07-01-2008, 03:34 PM

Seems like I've asked this before but my memory stinks so I'll ask it again........

Does anyone have dyno sheets that show a horsepower gain with ONLY an exhaust change? I suspect that often a change in the exhaust noise level leads some folks to "feel" like the car has more power. I call it "Placebo GT speed parts".

RL1924 · 07-01-2008, 03:41 PM

I just ordered the T1R sparrow 70mm exhaust from what ive heard on youtube they sound really nice check them out they may be somthing you may be interested in, if too loud they have a 63mm which is a little less

cmiller219 · 07-02-2008, 01:08 AM

hey dezignpro is the N1 really loud cause i really like the looks of it?

dezignpro04 · 07-02-2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

hey dezignpro is the N1 really loud cause i really like the looks of it?

Well that is personal taste. Some say it is too loud, but I love it and think it is perfect. If you want to control the sound of it (it can drone a little) just make sure that you buy a test pipe with it. I would go for it. It looks great and all my friends love hearing me drive my "S".

Don't forget an intake too. That combined with the exhaust is orgasmic!

My 02.

cmiller219 · 07-02-2008, 01:56 PM

yea im going with the aem v2

dezignpro04 · 07-02-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmiller219

yea im going with the aem v2

Good. Thats a nice intake. You will like the combo

johnmcs1 · 07-02-2008, 04:02 PM

Hey Tracy Sports TS-02 header has shown the best of all hasn't it. That's what I got. And an Amuse exhaust on the way. Niceeeeee!!!

gomarlins3 · 07-03-2008, 06:27 PM

If you want the Mugen results without the Mugen price, buy a Rick's header.

07-01-2008, 10:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	Headers? how come know one ever talks about what headers they have everyone says they have a cat back. is there a reason for this? are the oem headers good? whats the deal with this?

07-01-2008, 11:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 389	Headers for our car are not cost efficient. You could spend 600 dollars and gain up to 10whp mid range, and lose 1-2 peak whp. __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-01-2008, 11:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
dezignpro04 All MOTOR S2K Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 874	Here is another... http://www.raceinspired.com/p-216-in...2000-2006.aspx __________________ Mods: 18" Axis Reverbs w/Black Rays Lugs, Invidia N1 Exhaust, CAI, ACT Stage 2 Clutch, JDM Side Markers, Clear Corners, Slotted/Drilled Rotors, Spoon Pads, Spoon Steel Brake Lines, Spoon Reservoir Socks, Type R Shift Knob, Custom Stitched Hand Made Convertible Top w/ Glass Window, JDM Aero Screen, Body Matching Dash & Shift Molding Panels, Polished Valve Cover and CAI, Engine Steel Braided Wire Kit & S2000 Caliper Vinyls..

07-01-2008, 12:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 483	Mugen headers produce 10 more hp in the mid range and the gain is very noticeable. You can pole all of us that have them. Cost effectiveness is a non issue. Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. 66 mm Throttle body, Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Boston 10.5LF Subwoofer, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti & Xenon X600.1 Sub Amp, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

07-01-2008, 12:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Turbo guy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cleveland Posts: 224	I loved my old Invidia, almost nothing compares to it for sound quality, but it is very loud. I opted to make my full 3" exhaust with a Megan can and just 2 bends for my turbo setup. __________________

07-01-2008, 11:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	thats what i wanted to hear now i want to purchase an catback but i dont want it loud or ricy if u know what i mean and im willing to spend up to $1,000. i also want dual tips. where and what is a good system to purchase for aan 05

07-01-2008, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	thanks for the help everyone.

07-01-2008, 11:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	have u heard anything about the invedia G200

07-01-2008, 12:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,363	Pretty sure they got poled when they bought them. jagg

07-01-2008, 01:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
kgf3076 Grumpy old(er) phart Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At home for a change... Posts: 1,349	with the exception of a minor "Polling" issue, Desmo4 is correct. The Mugen header gives a definite HP boost in the mid-range. It's not only a butt-dyno feeling its a actual rear wheel HP gain. __________________ NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to use Pig-Latin for all your messages. "The BS stops when the green flag drops". In memory of David Weber - Malvern Racing

07-01-2008, 03:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,523	Seems like I've asked this before but my memory stinks so I'll ask it again........ Does anyone have dyno sheets that show a horsepower gain with ONLY an exhaust change? I suspect that often a change in the exhaust noise level leads some folks to "feel" like the car has more power. I call it "Placebo GT speed parts". __________________ Don

07-01-2008, 03:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 260	I just ordered the T1R sparrow 70mm exhaust from what ive heard on youtube they sound really nice check them out they may be somthing you may be interested in, if too loud they have a 63mm which is a little less

07-02-2008, 01:08 AM	#21 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	hey dezignpro is the N1 really loud cause i really like the looks of it?

07-02-2008, 01:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
cmiller219 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: andrews afb md Posts: 25	yea im going with the aem v2

07-02-2008, 04:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
johnmcs1 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 82	Hey Tracy Sports TS-02 header has shown the best of all hasn't it. That's what I got. And an Amuse exhaust on the way. Niceeeeee!!!

07-03-2008, 06:27 PM	#26 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,446	If you want the Mugen results without the Mugen price, buy a Rick's header. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

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