Saturn Sky Red Line with an attutude...

js1 · 07-06-2008, 07:39 PM

So, I was just getting on the freeway and I had a Saturn Sky Redline up my ass (believe me it hurt...). It was a very long onramp with a nice sweeping curve at the end so I wound her out in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and pulled about 10 car lengths away before easing up and settling in at about 75mph. Instead of leaving it at that this guy rides my ass again and then pulls up along side me and jabs the throttle a few times and then speeds up and starts weaving through traffic. I stayed steady at about 75 and for the next 25 miles or so I kept "catching" up to him because he was just driving like an impatient asshole. About 2 miles before my exit he cuts across all 4 lanes and nobody in front of me would let him in. We had about a 1 mile before the exit and he ended up tucking in right behind me. I slowed down to about 50 before taking the exit and made sure that there was a ton of room in front of me and then I took the turn hard and he was all over the place. I know that this wasn't one of my finer moments but it felt good to screw with that guy. Just for kicks I checked out the Saturn Sky Forum and it's full of S2000 bashers. These guys have such a hard on for the S2000. Many of those Sky folk justify their decision on the "looks" factor. They also site their better warranty. They are going to need it!!!

D1sclaimer · 07-06-2008, 08:25 PM

Im pretty sure it wasn't a Redline cause the Redline edition is a smidge faster 0-60 and about the same 1/4 mile times.

About the races... I honestly hate people sometimes. They want to run you soo bad that they are a prick about it. Its one of the only bad things about owning an s2000.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

gomarlins3 · 07-06-2008, 08:44 PM

I like the Sky. We looked into getting one for Mrs. GM3 about a year and a half ago, but she changed her mind.

js1 · 07-06-2008, 09:29 PM

It was a redline. It said turbo on the back and it had the two tail pipes. When I got on it I was already in second at about 5 grand on the tach and once I got into 4th he was back pretty far. I pulled away pretty easily. If we were at a start I have no doubt that we would have been very close because Stewie is not a drag car but she is strong at the top of 2nd and 3rd and I don't think those turbos are as responsive as our vtec. The other thing is that they are a 5 speed with longer gears so if the driver leaves her in gear to the top of the tach there is going to be a drop off in power and once Stewie has some momentum, she is pretty quick. Now, I wouldn't call this a race because we weren't on a track but I hope to see this guy (or another Redline) the next time I do have a track day because I'd really like to see how the Saturn and the Solstice GXP hang with the lighter and tighter Stewie. I'm pretty sure with the same driver a Stewie is a good deal quicker around the track. I just hate it when this happens though. I don't ride people's asses and when I do see a "cool" car I usually give a nice nod or a wave. Even when I drive the E55 I usually let people go even though it can out drag about 99% of the cars out there, 0 to 60 in 4.1 and an easy mid 12's in the quarter...anyways, this was the first time I had encountered a redline so I thought I'd share.

dezignpro04 · 07-07-2008, 05:32 AM

I like giving people no satisfaction.. lol, Nice story.

On a side note, they have 260hp / 260tq in the Turbo flavor don't they?? But putting a five speed in a "sports car" should be a sin in all 50 states..

Would be a nice run on a track. I think the stewie would some out ahead, with out a doubt.

Swingle1 · 07-07-2008, 07:42 AM

I've driven a Solstice. Not the turbo though. If I had one, I'd have to tighten up the suspension. That thing rode like a minivan with the stock setup. Does the turbo have a better suspension?

The other thing about that car is the trunk space. The top retracts into the trunk, so you can't carry anything while the top is down.

Granted, no roadster is built for practicality-- but sheesh!

H20 · 07-07-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swingle1

I've driven a Solstice. Not the turbo though. If I had one, I'd have to tighten up the suspension. That thing rode like a minivan with the stock setup. Does the turbo have a better suspension?

The other thing about that car is the trunk space. The top retracts into the trunk, so you can't carry anything while the top is down.

Granted, no roadster is built for practicality-- but sheesh!

I tested the GXP. I bounced off the rev limiter in first leaving the dealer. Mostly because I couldnt see the tach. Making a right turn I had to duck and look under the mirror. That was enough for me. The no trunk bothered me. The engine felt great and willing. The thing handled ok but I really didnt wring it out. Styling is a bit over the top even for me. The car is quite cool really and a giant step in the right direction for domestic iron. There really needs to be a comparo on a track with good drivers. Surprised there hasnt been one yet. They seem to be obvious competitors. The turbo that is and S2k. I would put my money on the S2k for the moment. I doubt they ever made a pontiac though, that is at the top of it's tune. So who knows with a little massaging.

chazdawg35 · 07-07-2008, 06:47 PM

I'm sick of Ion,Cobalt and Sky Redline all of their owners think they are the S#iT! I can't wait to get a Supercharger so I can KICK BUTT!

js1 · 07-08-2008, 09:18 AM

I would have to go with Stewie around a track. I read an article in Car and Driver that compared a GXP and a base Boxster. It mentioned the S2000 and it said that the the S2000 was tighter and more refined. They are almost identical 0 to 60 and in the quarter though I suspect that in a real world drag from 0 the Solstice GXP/Sky Redline would stay ahead of us to 60 and then we'd reel them in by the end of the quarter because those cars are set up to launch better and Stewie is a high RPM beast. I think Stewie is the better handler and the better made car. The S2000 is a scalpel and the others are butter knives.

bikeman · 04-06-2009, 04:16 PM

found this thread on google but can't help but reply, a stocker S2000 wants no part...no part of head to head throw down with a Sky Redline, and as far as drag racing you better hope its not a auto. Yes the auto, its a six speed and once the turbo is spooled up at 18psi (stock) it stays right threw the gears. GM now offers a ecm upgade kit ($890.oo) that boost the turbo to 22 psi...290hp....340flb torque. Are you kidding me! Oh yeah, still covered under the factory warranty. (though it requires 93+ octane). How much cash would it take to get those kind of numbers out of a S2000? No I don't own one or a 2000, neither car is for me. I work at a Saturn dealer.

BTW, I hate a-hole drivers too.

S2KCRick · 04-06-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bikeman

found this thread on google but can't help but reply, a stocker S2000 wants no part...no part of head to head throw down with a Sky Redline, and as far as drag racing you better hope its not a auto. Yes the auto, its a six speed and once the turbo is spooled up at 18psi (stock) it stays right threw the gears. GM now offers a ecm upgade kit ($890.oo) that boost the turbo to 22 psi...290hp....340flb torque. Are you kidding me! Oh yeah, still covered under the factory warranty. (though it requires 93+ octane). How much cash would it take to get those kind of numbers out of a S2000? No I don't own one or a 2000, neither car is for me. I work at a Saturn dealer.

BTW, I hate a-hole drivers too.

Please! Car and Driver has the Redline times for 0-60 at 5.5 and 1/4 mile at 13.9.

Car and Driver has my CR 0-60 at 5.3 and 1/4 mile at 13.8

I dont want to take your money, youll need it for your boost upgrade! Lets talk after you get that done.

s2000isu · 04-06-2009, 05:00 PM

Ok so first of all its a damn good race between them except on the track where the s2000 seems to clean up. Take a look at last seasons autox results. Second you buy the upgrades for the sky and big deal now you have a quicker but still plastic toy car. FYI with a terrible tune i made 316 whp on 7 psi of boost. Silly wabbit skys are for kids. Oh and isnt saturn going under?

MutantCheese · 04-06-2009, 05:00 PM

How do you sleep at night knowing that you sell such garbage.

Java Junky · 04-06-2009, 05:07 PM

A "bikeman" would take particular displeasure in a-hole driverz. I know I do. Totally with yuh onn'att bikeman.
But, a liddle maturity'n jus'a liddle pity for the Syke bozoz gang.
Jus' think that each'n every day they've godda be seen in those road-goin' eyesorez.
Cut'em some slack.
Enjoy'a good laugh't their expense, but cut'em some slack.
(Jus'z long'z when they go by they don't get any'a that ugly on me'n Stewie.)

S2KCRick · 04-06-2009, 05:08 PM

Im not gonna bash the saturn and pontiac, but man come on! Sky competes with miata, not s2000.

TheCarGuy2021 · 04-06-2009, 05:35 PM

Having the opportunity to take apart and put together a few Ecotec engines and a F20C, there is no comparison.

Sure it's got a few more ponies and some other better numbers, that's not always what it's all about.

Let's not get all rowelled up because some silly person has to join a forum just to defend their car choice. I'll always love my S2000, even if GM makes a LS9 2500lb roadster for $30,000.

jagg · 04-06-2009, 05:38 PM

Straight up daily drivin' abuse, the S2000 will ride a Sky/Solstice into the ground 'n ask for seconds.
At the same time it will be more practical, more efficient, and cheaper in the long run per mile.

Track day? Probably more driver contingent than a real stewie owner would like to admit, but hey it's 2 different methods to the same madness, right? I'm still givin' the S the edge, on handling alone.

It's a shame that they had to build that rattletrap around such a good idea from GM. The sturdiness 'en chassis is not there, quality of materials is substandard, and the over the top styling will fade fast. Batmobile is soooooo yesterday.
Remember, their goal was to build a cheap (affordable) roadster, and that's what you get. Can't fault the logic of buildin' something people love to drive and can afford.
Lettum have their fun. Aren't you?

S2k was a classic the minute it was born, 'n will ride like the same rock it was when you got it, as long as you keep it maintained. Of this, I am certainly convinced.
I bought mine too cheap too, for what it'll do.

Have fun drag racin' boys, 'n don't overheat your ecomotors!

jagg

zekerebourn · 04-06-2009, 06:08 PM

im sure not every person driving a redline sky is driving around looking just to drive up other people's A$$'s, it could have been anyone some young bloke driving his 240sx project car or a civic or 350z or even another s2k it could have been any car, it just so happends that js1 came across a dumb A$$ driving a sky. all im saying is it was the driver that was a prick not the car. and who cares what they talk about on the sky forums. my friends mom drives a redline sky and its a nice car, she has fun and enjoys the ride just like us, thats what we do enjoy are rides and have fun. and she's proof that not all sky drivers are bad

RayYay · 04-06-2009, 06:18 PM

I actually like the Sky Redline. I think the specs and looks are awesome. I looked into it before buying my new s2k, too bad I never got to test drive it though. Only downside of the redline is the 5speed gearbox, wtf Saturn?? But regardless, very nice roadster!

I'm still very satisfied with my 2008 S2k, don't get me wrong, but this is 1 Saturn I would consider buying....still

S2KCRick · 04-06-2009, 06:20 PM

I dont think anyone is saying all Sky drivers are bad, or that the Sky itself is bad. Its just not better than the s2k, and most of those Sky owners know it, so some of them are gonna hate on the s2k.

RayYay · 04-06-2009, 06:30 PM

Ever since you got that supercharger, you think you're all that s2kcrick!! haha jk. How you liking it so far? I plan on getting one too, maybe 10 years from now ha!

chazdawg35 · 04-06-2009, 06:52 PM

Hey Dudes and Dudettes Do I have to remind everyone the thread on the 701whp S2000!stock engine block, the Ecotec would have bit the dust I'm sure at about 400whp

GO HONDA!!!!!

chazdawg35 · 04-06-2009, 06:54 PM

Oh and BTW maybe some Honda investors can help in the GM bailout! he he NOT!

TheCarGuy2021 · 04-06-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Hey Dudes and Dudettes Do I have to remind everyone the thread on the 701whp S2000!stock engine block, the Ecotec would have bit the dust I'm sure at about 400whp

GO HONDA!!!!!

chazdawg35 · 04-06-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCarGuy2021

Hey Dudes we have a sympathizer, Don't tell me that's the 1000wph model.

Vezna31 · 04-06-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MutantCheese

How do you sleep at night knowing that you sell such garbage.

ROFLMAO...awesome!

philiam · 04-06-2009, 10:09 PM

I think this will work. Click on the link, then click on the sign on on the left side, that should get you to the ratings. Let me know if it works.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...s-overview.htm

TheCarGuy2021 · 04-06-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by philiam

I think this will work. Click on the link, then click on the sign on on the left side, that should get you to the ratings. Let me know if it works.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...s-overview.htm

Didn't work, what's the verdict?

philiam · 04-06-2009, 10:34 PM

The Sky turbo and the solstice na scored near the bottom of the roadsters in reliability and over all score.

Saturn Sky
Highs Acceleration, steering.
Lows Top design, luggage space, fit and finish, shifter, noise, access, controls, driving position, visibility, reliability.

D1sclaimer · 04-06-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bikeman

found this thread on google but can't help but reply, a stocker S2000 wants no part...no part of head to head throw down with a Sky Redline, and as far as drag racing you better hope its not a auto. Yes the auto, its a six speed and once the turbo is spooled up at 18psi (stock) it stays right threw the gears. GM now offers a ecm upgade kit ($890.oo) that boost the turbo to 22 psi...290hp....340flb torque. Are you kidding me! Oh yeah, still covered under the factory warranty. (though it requires 93+ octane). How much cash would it take to get those kind of numbers out of a S2000? No I don't own one or a 2000, neither car is for me. I work at a Saturn dealer.

BTW, I hate a-hole drivers too.

You convinced me. Whats your dealerships phone number. Im trading my s2000 in through you and buying a Saturn.

Sorry guys. I will miss you all. For 890 dollars I can up the boost and add a couple new sensors. What a deal! 13.65 in the 1/4 mile is well worth the 890 dollars over the stock 13.95 time.
http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/f2...t-facts-28303/

S2KCRick · 04-07-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RayYay

Ever since you got that supercharger, you think you're all that s2kcrick!! haha jk. How you liking it so far? I plan on getting one too, maybe 10 years from now ha!

Haha, yea man its great! Love the charger, I recommend it for everyone, if you have funds. As a youngster, I was really into Mustangs, as that is what i learned to drive in and was my first car. I always wanted to make it faster by getting a charger put on. Now that I have the CR and the funds to do what I want, I went ahead and just did it.

js1 · 04-08-2009, 10:22 PM

Wow I posted this 9 months ago and it has been revitalized!!! I have had a chance to drive a redline and for my money I still feel that I made a great choice in buying the S. I really didn't like the way that the Saturn felt. The handling, steering response, chassis feel, transmission and engine just fell short. I think that unrefined is the best description that I have for the sky/solstice. I know that the S is not a blazing fast car and it is getting a bit old but it is still the benchmark, as far as I am concerned, for the modern day affordable roadster. This is at the heart of the reason why I bought it. It is one of the purest expressions of driving that you can get. My gramps has a pant load of cars (about 30) a few of which come from Italy and have a certain prancing horse on the hood and I can tell you that even he appreciates the S and says that it is a true sports car because it makes all the right sounds and feels great. Where am I going with this? I guess I'd rather sip some 40 year old tawny than get blitzed off of the stuff that comes in a plastic bottle...

TheSoundMan21 · 04-09-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by js1

Wow I posted this 9 months ago and it has been revitalized!!! I have had a chance to drive a redline and for my money I still feel that I made a great choice in buying the S. I really didn't like the way that the Saturn felt. The handling, steering response, chassis feel, transmission and engine just fell short. I think that unrefined is the best description that I have for the sky/solstice. I know that the S is not a blazing fast car and it is getting a bit old but it is still the benchmark, as far as I am concerned, for the modern day affordable roadster. This is at the heart of the reason why I bought it. It is one of the purest expressions of driving that you can get. My gramps has a pant load of cars (about 30) a few of which come from Italy and have a certain prancing horse on the hood and I can tell you that even he appreciates the S and says that it is a true sports car because it makes all the right sounds and feels great. Where am I going with this? I guess I'd rather sip some 40 year old tawny than get blitzed off of the stuff that comes in a plastic bottle...

Hmm thats the best way I could of ever put it... Unrefined its not that American cars are bad and its not because of the plastic... lets face it even the cheap plastic in our cars still feels "refined" and not cheap.

I guess if American auto makers put more thought behind the design and refined them I can see a good number of American cars Id rather start to like. Good point.

Maus2k · 04-09-2009, 07:56 AM

they bash the stewies because they cant keep up with em. I mean cmon they bought a saturn. id be upset if i paid that much for a saturn too.

Neil · 04-09-2009, 08:05 AM

The quality in the build is just not there with the North American roadsters. Some people just don't notice these details, others do. Its nice to be an "other"

turbosix · 04-09-2009, 08:12 AM

the build quality is fine. i dont like the design of the solstice interior but there is not a damn thing separating our interiors from the sky.

turbosix · 04-09-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Hey Dudes we have a sympathizer, Don't tell me that's the 1000wph model.

1,250hp model.

your guess was not high enough, sorry.

TheCarGuy2021 · 04-09-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by turbosix

1,250hp model.

your guess was not high enough, sorry.

Yep

07-06-2008, 07:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
js1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame, CA Posts: 117	Saturn Sky Red Line with an attutude... So, I was just getting on the freeway and I had a Saturn Sky Redline up my ass (believe me it hurt...). It was a very long onramp with a nice sweeping curve at the end so I wound her out in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and pulled about 10 car lengths away before easing up and settling in at about 75mph. Instead of leaving it at that this guy rides my ass again and then pulls up along side me and jabs the throttle a few times and then speeds up and starts weaving through traffic. I stayed steady at about 75 and for the next 25 miles or so I kept "catching" up to him because he was just driving like an impatient asshole. About 2 miles before my exit he cuts across all 4 lanes and nobody in front of me would let him in. We had about a 1 mile before the exit and he ended up tucking in right behind me. I slowed down to about 50 before taking the exit and made sure that there was a ton of room in front of me and then I took the turn hard and he was all over the place. I know that this wasn't one of my finer moments but it felt good to screw with that guy. Just for kicks I checked out the Saturn Sky Forum and it's full of S2000 bashers. These guys have such a hard on for the S2000. Many of those Sky folk justify their decision on the "looks" factor. They also site their better warranty. They are going to need it!!! __________________ Cars: 2007 S2000 2009 Acura TSX 2005 MB E55 AMG 1969 Chevelle SS 1965 Porsche 356c

07-06-2008, 08:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,694	I like the Sky. We looked into getting one for Mrs. GM3 about a year and a half ago, but she changed her mind. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

07-06-2008, 09:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
js1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame, CA Posts: 117	It was a redline. It said turbo on the back and it had the two tail pipes. When I got on it I was already in second at about 5 grand on the tach and once I got into 4th he was back pretty far. I pulled away pretty easily. If we were at a start I have no doubt that we would have been very close because Stewie is not a drag car but she is strong at the top of 2nd and 3rd and I don't think those turbos are as responsive as our vtec. The other thing is that they are a 5 speed with longer gears so if the driver leaves her in gear to the top of the tach there is going to be a drop off in power and once Stewie has some momentum, she is pretty quick. Now, I wouldn't call this a race because we weren't on a track but I hope to see this guy (or another Redline) the next time I do have a track day because I'd really like to see how the Saturn and the Solstice GXP hang with the lighter and tighter Stewie. I'm pretty sure with the same driver a Stewie is a good deal quicker around the track. I just hate it when this happens though. I don't ride people's asses and when I do see a "cool" car I usually give a nice nod or a wave. Even when I drive the E55 I usually let people go even though it can out drag about 99% of the cars out there, 0 to 60 in 4.1 and an easy mid 12's in the quarter...anyways, this was the first time I had encountered a redline so I thought I'd share. __________________ Cars: 2007 S2000 2009 Acura TSX 2005 MB E55 AMG 1969 Chevelle SS 1965 Porsche 356c

07-07-2008, 05:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
dezignpro04 Banned for Life Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,101	I like giving people no satisfaction.. lol, Nice story. On a side note, they have 260hp / 260tq in the Turbo flavor don't they?? But putting a five speed in a "sports car" should be a sin in all 50 states.. Would be a nice run on a track. I think the stewie would some out ahead, with out a doubt. __________________ Mods: 18" Axis Reverbs w/Black Rays Lugs, Invidia N1 Exhaust, CAI, ACT Stage 2 Clutch, JDM Side Markers, Clear Corners, Slotted/Drilled Rotors, Spoon Pads, Spoon Steel Brake Lines, Spoon Reservoir Socks, Ricks Vodoo Knob, Custom Stitched Hand Made Convertible Top w/ Glass Window, JDM Aero Screen, Body Matching Dash & Shift Molding Panels, Polished Valve Cover and CAI, Engine Steel Braided Wire Kit & S2000 Caliper Vinyls..

07-08-2008, 09:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
js1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame, CA Posts: 117	I would have to go with Stewie around a track. I read an article in Car and Driver that compared a GXP and a base Boxster. It mentioned the S2000 and it said that the the S2000 was tighter and more refined. They are almost identical 0 to 60 and in the quarter though I suspect that in a real world drag from 0 the Solstice GXP/Sky Redline would stay ahead of us to 60 and then we'd reel them in by the end of the quarter because those cars are set up to launch better and Stewie is a high RPM beast. I think Stewie is the better handler and the better made car. The S2000 is a scalpel and the others are butter knives. __________________ Cars: 2007 S2000 2009 Acura TSX 2005 MB E55 AMG 1969 Chevelle SS 1965 Porsche 356c

07-07-2008, 07:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Swingle1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 717	I've driven a Solstice. Not the turbo though. If I had one, I'd have to tighten up the suspension. That thing rode like a minivan with the stock setup. Does the turbo have a better suspension? The other thing about that car is the trunk space. The top retracts into the trunk, so you can't carry anything while the top is down. Granted, no roadster is built for practicality-- but sheesh!

07-07-2008, 06:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 1,867	I'm sick of Ion,Cobalt and Sky Redline all of their owners think they are the S#iT! I can't wait to get a Supercharger so I can KICK BUTT!

04-06-2009, 04:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
bikeman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1	found this thread on google but can't help but reply, a stocker S2000 wants no part...no part of head to head throw down with a Sky Redline, and as far as drag racing you better hope its not a auto. Yes the auto, its a six speed and once the turbo is spooled up at 18psi (stock) it stays right threw the gears. GM now offers a ecm upgade kit ($890.oo) that boost the turbo to 22 psi...290hp....340flb torque. Are you kidding me! Oh yeah, still covered under the factory warranty. (though it requires 93+ octane). How much cash would it take to get those kind of numbers out of a S2000? No I don't own one or a 2000, neither car is for me. I work at a Saturn dealer. BTW, I hate a-hole drivers too.

04-06-2009, 05:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 1,748	Ok so first of all its a damn good race between them except on the track where the s2000 seems to clean up. Take a look at last seasons autox results. Second you buy the upgrades for the sky and big deal now you have a quicker but still plastic toy car. FYI with a terrible tune i made 316 whp on 7 psi of boost. Silly wabbit skys are for kids. Oh and isnt saturn going under? __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

04-06-2009, 05:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
MutantCheese The Cheeziest! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Orleans Posts: 685	How do you sleep at night knowing that you sell such garbage. __________________ 2008 S2000 New Formula Red (K&N FIPK; AUT cooling plate; Berk Ceramic coated SS headers; Berk SS HFC; Tanabe Concept G SS exhaust; Hondata toda Reflash; OEM front lip; Megan strut bar; Eibach Prokit) 2006 Civic Si NBP w/hfp kit (Too many mods to list here) 2008 CR-V EX-L w/Nav Enjoy your midlife crisis...you only get one! Visit: www.GNOunderground.com

04-06-2009, 05:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 6,402	A "bikeman" *would* take particular displeasure in a-hole driverz. I know I do. Totally with yuh onn'att bikeman. But, a liddle maturity'n jus'a liddle pity for the Syke bozoz gang. Jus' think that each'n every day they've godda be *seen* in those road-goin' eyesorez. Cut'em some slack. Enjoy'a good laugh't their expense, but cut'em some slack. (Jus'z long'z when they go by they don't get any'a that ugly on me'n Stewie.) __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

04-06-2009, 05:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Car Dummy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 835	Having the opportunity to take apart and put together a few Ecotec engines and a F20C, there is no comparison. Sure it's got a few more ponies and some other better numbers, that's not always what it's all about. Let's not get all rowelled up because some silly person has to join a forum just to defend their car choice. I'll always love my S2000, even if GM makes a LS9 2500lb roadster for $30,000.

04-06-2009, 05:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 3,115	Straight up daily drivin' abuse, the S2000 will ride a Sky/Solstice into the ground 'n ask for seconds. At the same time it will be more practical, more efficient, and cheaper in the long run per mile. Track day? Probably more driver contingent than a real stewie owner would like to admit, but hey it's 2 different methods to the same madness, right? I'm still givin' the S the edge, on handling alone. It's a shame that they had to build that rattletrap around such a good idea from GM. The sturdiness 'en chassis is not there, quality of materials is substandard, and the over the top styling will fade fast. Batmobile is soooooo yesterday. Remember, their goal was to build a cheap (affordable) roadster, and that's what you get. Can't fault the logic of buildin' something people love to drive and can afford. Lettum have their fun. Aren't you? S2k was a classic the minute it was born, 'n will ride like the same rock it was when you got it, as long as you keep it maintained. Of this, I am certainly convinced. I bought mine too cheap too, for what it'll do. Have fun drag racin' boys, 'n don't overheat your ecomotors! jagg

04-06-2009, 06:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
zekerebourn Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PA Posts: 32	im sure not every person driving a redline sky is driving around looking just to drive up other people's A$$'s, it could have been anyone some young bloke driving his 240sx project car or a civic or 350z or even another s2k it could have been any car, it just so happends that js1 came across a dumb A$$ driving a sky. all im saying is it was the driver that was a prick not the car. and who cares what they talk about on the sky forums. my friends mom drives a redline sky and its a nice car, she has fun and enjoys the ride just like us, thats what we do enjoy are rides and have fun. and she's proof that not all sky drivers are bad

04-06-2009, 06:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
RayYay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 474	I actually like the Sky Redline. I think the specs and looks are awesome. I looked into it before buying my new s2k, too bad I never got to test drive it though. Only downside of the redline is the 5speed gearbox, wtf Saturn?? But regardless, very nice roadster! I'm still very satisfied with my 2008 S2k, don't get me wrong, but this is 1 Saturn I would consider buying....still

04-06-2009, 06:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
RayYay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 474	Ever since you got that supercharger, you think you're all that s2kcrick!! haha jk. How you liking it so far? I plan on getting one too, maybe 10 years from now ha!

04-06-2009, 06:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 1,867	Hey Dudes and Dudettes Do I have to remind everyone the thread on the 701whp S2000!stock engine block, the Ecotec would have bit the dust I'm sure at about 400whp GO HONDA!!!!! __________________

04-06-2009, 06:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 1,867	Oh and BTW maybe some Honda investors can help in the GM bailout! he he NOT! __________________

04-06-2009, 10:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 2,735	I think this will work. Click on the link, then click on the sign on on the left side, that should get you to the ratings. Let me know if it works. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...s-overview.htm __________________ .

04-06-2009, 10:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 2,735	The Sky turbo and the solstice na scored near the bottom of the roadsters in reliability and over all score. Saturn Sky Highs Acceleration, steering. Lows Top design, luggage space, fit and finish, shifter, noise, access, controls, driving position, visibility, reliability. __________________ . Last edited by philiam; 04-06-2009 at 11:37 PM.

04-08-2009, 10:22 PM	#32 (permalink)
js1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame, CA Posts: 117	Wow I posted this 9 months ago and it has been revitalized!!! I have had a chance to drive a redline and for my money I still feel that I made a great choice in buying the S. I really didn't like the way that the Saturn felt. The handling, steering response, chassis feel, transmission and engine just fell short. I think that unrefined is the best description that I have for the sky/solstice. I know that the S is not a blazing fast car and it is getting a bit old but it is still the benchmark, as far as I am concerned, for the modern day affordable roadster. This is at the heart of the reason why I bought it. It is one of the purest expressions of driving that you can get. My gramps has a pant load of cars (about 30) a few of which come from Italy and have a certain prancing horse on the hood and I can tell you that even he appreciates the S and says that it is a true sports car because it makes all the right sounds and feels great. Where am I going with this? I guess I'd rather sip some 40 year old tawny than get blitzed off of the stuff that comes in a plastic bottle... __________________ Cars: 2007 S2000 2009 Acura TSX 2005 MB E55 AMG 1969 Chevelle SS 1965 Porsche 356c

04-09-2009, 07:56 AM	#34 (permalink)
Maus2k Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 117	they bash the stewies because they cant keep up with em. I mean cmon they bought a saturn. id be upset if i paid that much for a saturn too.

04-09-2009, 08:05 AM	#35 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,458	The quality in the build is just not there with the North American roadsters. Some people just don't notice these details, others do. Its nice to be an "other"

04-09-2009, 08:12 AM	#36 (permalink)
turbosix S2000.com Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 2,487	the build quality is fine. i dont like the design of the solstice interior but there is not a damn thing separating our interiors from the sky. __________________ turbosix.net 1984 buick regal t-type . 2003 gpw s2000 Are you lacking coverage for your prescriptions? Click HERE to print a free discount pharmacy card! Save 10-60% on most medications at 60,000 pharmacies nationwide at no cost to you.

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