what have you raced???

chemical · 10-29-2006, 08:50 PM

Wells you guys what have you raced and beat on a street race it doesn't matter how you raced it could be on a roll or track or drift i just wanted to know so here take a look at this list for you guys and to say my cars stock and i got an s2000 ok's lolz check it

* s2000(freeway run)

*350z(freeway run)

*evo(street race)

*mustang gt or cobra (street race)

*g35(freeway run)

*sti (street race)

*wrz(street race)

*300zx ( street race)/ (drift)

*corvett non zo6( 60mpg roll)

*ss (street race)

*z28( 30 miles per hour roll)

*rs (80 miles per hour)

*RSX-S(roll at 35)

*srt-4( street race)

*94- 96 twin turbo supra (street races)

*GTI Golf

* and alot of the little cars if you know what i mean

wells you get the point im just wonder if thats normal ok's get back to me on that

gomarlins3 · 10-29-2006, 09:09 PM

Please be a little more specific as to what type of racing. Please also use some punctuation so my eyes don't hurt so much when I try to read what you write.

s2000isu · 10-30-2006, 07:08 AM

uh civics, crx. prelude, eclipse gst, old school talon 1st gen, evo, sti, 350z, mustangs a few 4.6 and a few 5.0, small 600cc bikes, old school 70 vettes, 80;s vettes, and c6's, 3.5 se maxima, 2 duramax diesels and i am sure alot more those were mostly races in my other car. The little odd looking car that noone has ever seen before makes people curious i guess

Java Junky · 10-30-2006, 07:57 AM

Okay Go: punctuation? I 'bout fell out'a the chair. Thanks.
Be well.
Java

Halo · 10-30-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by s2000isu

small 600cc bikes

How'd that go?

Java Junky · 10-30-2006, 11:18 AM

Like the rest'a the fairy tales. Only this time the "Once upon a time" beginnin' was left out.

gizorge8 · 10-30-2006, 12:07 PM

hmm, mach 1's, mustangs in general, vipers, vettes, camero SS's, 2006 Roush S/C edition mustang. Supera TT, Audi TT, Preludes. Most of those i raced back when i had Mustangs. This was mostly drag racing, or from like a 70mph rolling start. I did take on a c-5 from a rolling start about 50mph on in my S though, I don't really think the person driving it could drive, I stayed right on him the entire time.

Java Junky · 10-30-2006, 12:36 PM

Sorry giz, I guess I godda get out more, but the only C5s that I know r' an elderly Ford trans n' a rather large military cargo aircraft. Somehow I don't think that either of those r' what you were referrin' to. What's a c-5?
Be well.
Java

s2000isu · 10-30-2006, 07:03 PM

he meens the c5 vette kinda like a 98 model. Well i only assume they were 600cc cause i did well. The one I stayed right with. The other pulled on me nicely. Another my picky car was not running correctly and he stomped me bad. The 600cc's arent that fast and it really depends on the rider.

Java Junky · 10-30-2006, 07:20 PM

S2, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but, the guys on the 600s? They've been either havin' a bi' a' sport wi' ya r' ignorin' ya. A 600, to the best of my knowledge, any 600, could dust us at will n' with impunity.
I figure they godda be good for damned near 10 second quarters when they're ridden right. Where does Stewie stand a chance with anythin' that quick?
Stewie's a great little car, but c'mon folks. It does have physical limitations.
Be well.
Java

s2000isu · 10-30-2006, 07:45 PM

hahaha noooooo java i didnt race any in the s2. I raced them in the car that I built. They were def racing me. Also with a bike it depends alot on the rider I had 3 friends with 600's and I know not one got it into the 11's and I think only one made it into the 12's. I dunno if youre interested in other cars but i have somewhat of a rare one as a project car only 800 made I just made a video of it if you wanna take a look. Oh and this is the car that I raced everyhting in. Myspace.com

Java Junky · 10-31-2006, 06:14 AM

S2, that was the Impulse that you were talkin' about?
I'm not especially capable when it comes to these 'pewta-type things. Didn't get to see the clips.
But the part about only 800 made definitely grabs my attention.
Exactly what is (was?) it?
As for the 600s, the top dogs r' capable of 10s in the quarter. Maybe not with your average street-dweeb (me) at the helm, but with someone of normal reaction, balance n' competitive abilities.
So, about that 1 of 800 . . .
Be well.
Java

s2000isu · 10-31-2006, 06:49 AM

It is a isuzu impulse rs it is awd turbocharged with lotus suspension. It has the same engine thats in a lotus elan like a 91 isuzu made it for them. It has recaro seats and all that fun stuff woooo.

Mine is very very very far from stock at this point it is sitting in a shop blown up haha. If ya watch the video you will get an idea of whats done.

Java Junky · 10-31-2006, 07:43 AM

Ahhhhh! A "sleeper". A "Q ship".
Ain't much to look at s2. If it's as potent as you say it is, I love it!
I've always found that my cars run in phases: I build a nightmare for the street with questionable reliability (the only reliability about those creations is that within 50 feet to a 1/4 mile, the extra power's gonna have it spittin' out little piecey-parts that're gonna godda be replaced, steroided, r' removed n' the whole assembly replaced with somethin' that can handle it . . at which time the power makes it a little further down the drivetrain n' then you've godda go through the whole dance all over again) n' after a while somethin' stock n' reliable starts havin' a very real appeal.
A sleeper with a Stewie as the "stock" reliable ride? 'Sounds like a combination made in heaven.
Thanks for the heddzupp s2.
Be well.
Java

Halo · 10-31-2006, 09:38 AM

600s aren't that fast?

An older 600 maybe, especially if it's beaten to hell. Ninja 250 boosts some driver egos too since it has fairings like a sportbike.

An occasional rider might also be screwing around and just whack open the throttle in 6th at 65, but they're far from 'racing' in that case. (Been there done that). Most riders won't screw around with cars because if the cager does something stupid (besides trying to run a bike), the bike will draw the short straw.

Admittedly, launching a 350lb bike isn't trivial. So published ETs in the 10s aren't reached by most riders. But, the traps in the 120s can be reached if you hold that throttle open and keep the front wheel on the ground. This is the case in most street encounters where the bike is already rolling, even a rider who doesn't shift well is in good shape since 1st tops out at ~50-60mph. Ricers never seem to get that: if I'm above 5,000 rpm, all I gotta do is hold the throttle wide open and I'm a ghost.

chemical · 10-31-2006, 11:39 AM

wells hey you guys im wondering what do you guys launch at cuz me i launch at 3 and a half to 4 thousand RPM's wells yeah and its pretty good cuz i used to luanch at 6 but then i got a swap and wells yeah i would stay pealing out from first to second to third and wells yeah i curios at what you guys launch at??????

Java Junky · 10-31-2006, 02:21 PM

Ummmm-m-m-m-m, Chem? Remember what we all took as a joke that Go made about you needin' some punctuation every 90th word r' so? It might not've been meant as a joke.
Okay, now . . I know this is gonna be painful for alodda us. I'm gonna make this as quick n' clean as possible. 'Chin up guys.
Average 600 motorcycle weight: roughly 350 - 400 lbs.
Average 600 motorcycle horsepower: roughly 85 - 120
Stewie weight: what? 2800 lbs?
Stewie horsepower: 240.
If any of you still have a problem figurin' which one's gonna dust which one time after time after time . . well . . there's alodda things that we ain't anxious to accept as truth. 'Don't make 'em any less true.
Be well.
Java

s2000isu · 10-31-2006, 02:56 PM

hehe well i wouldnt try to race a 600 in my s2000. And yes the 600's arent all that fast. Like i said rider has alot to do with a bikes speed. My friends with 600's put down terrible times they werent gsxr's and they werent great riders but two of the times a stock sti would keep up with and the third a cobra could keep up with and only one of those bikes was old. I am in no way saying my other car smashes 600's im just saying on the right night with the right rider you can feel very good about your car. If you have a 12 second car or faster you are bound to win a race or two against a 600.
And chemical what is this motor you put in? I would like to see some pics of a swap.

Halo · 10-31-2006, 07:22 PM

So, what you're saying is 600cc bikes are 'not that fast' because your friends don't know how to launch them or make a few shifts? So, then liter bikes are not that fast either. In fact, nothing, including 4 second top fuel cars are not that fast.

I don't know how many cobras are pulling 10.5 @ 130+ but the latest 600s are doing those kinds of numbers, in the right hands. Sure, some built, tubbed, rustang with slicks can top that, but this is a stock bike off the dealer lot that you just put gas in and ride.

s2000isu · 10-31-2006, 08:56 PM

No im saying that since my friends cant ride that proves you can beat 600cc bikes. ok did a little bit of googling with a professional rider the 600 cc gsx-r does a 11.149. The ZX-6R does a 10.937. Both respectable numbers. Except not every bike is a zx-6r or a gsx4 and not every bike is ridden by a professional. I know you say the latest bikes but there are plenty of non 2006 bikes on the road. I do have friends with street cars they drive atleast 2-3 times a week that are well in the 10's and i have friends that daily drive cars that are well in the 11's. My car I am not yet sure if itll do 11's but at like 20 psi ill be in the 12's easy and i still have 10 psi to play with and nitrous soon. So against the right bike and a rider that isnt really capable they are beatable thats all im saying. They arent unbeatable like everyone makes them out to be.

Java Junky · 11-01-2006, 03:51 AM

s2, if I'm readin' this right, you're countin' on the dweeb on the bike to be physically r' mentally challanged. That don't kind'a take the joy out'a the win for you?
As averse as I am to allowin' anyone to know how old n' feeble I am, I'm afraid that this has gone on long enough. It calls for somethin' drastic.
I'm anything but a "professional" rider. I jus' dot all my i's n' cross all my t's. As I see it my life depends on it.
I'm not gifted athletically (it's been said by some that I can't walk n' chew gum at the same time n' there'r' times that I godda agree with 'em).
N' like I've said, it may've taken me 2 weekends of tryin', but this unprofessional, not particularly athletic, damned near 60 year old put his R1 into numbers that weren't embarrassingly far from those that were posted by the "professionals". N' most young'uns can do that in their sleep.
Bottom line n' totally personally, I'd rather do my best n' lose to the schoolyard bully than to kick 'is ass when he's already damaged/impaired.
Be well.
Java

s2000isu · 11-01-2006, 06:59 AM

so by what youre saying at a nascar or indy race the people that are always in the top ten almost every race shouldnt race those people that are always in the last 10 every race? Ya the goal in a race is to win not to be fair. To make it simple a race consists of two things driver skill and vehicle. They already have me on vehicle so i guess at that point it would be my skill vs his. And dont make it sound like its some moron that can barely ride cause at atco raceway i see bikes doing 13's 12's and high 11's all day long. 10's and 9's arent so common. So are you telling me these people at the track racing doing 13's and 12's i shouldnt give them a whack?

chemical · 11-01-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Junky

Like the rest'a the fairy tales. Only this time the "Once upon a time" beginnin' was left out.

oh now i get what your trying to say wells its pretty funny how you guys dont belive me but hey thats your opinion i got mine form what i raced and wells hey maybe none of the people i race know how to drive but wells its kinda sad how no one has fiath in the s2k'k and wells if you do the rite things to them then you got a fast car but if you guys didnt know that not all s2000 are the same cuz i havea frined that does dyno's and wells he says s2k's never have the same horse power they allwaya end up lower than what the mauacture says it has and wells i havnt got mine dynoed but hey i think my engine is pretty godod cuz i got a 2002 s2k with a f22c1 and thats a 05 engin and wells yeah i think the way im running the internals its prettty much having a s2k on steriods and wells thats why ive beat so many cars ok's

gomarlins3 · 11-01-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chemical

oh now i get what your trying to say wells its pretty funny how you guys dont belive me but hey thats your opinion i got mine form what i raced and wells hey maybe none of the people i race know how to drive but wells its kinda sad how no one has fiath in the s2k'k and wells if you do the rite things to them then you got a fast car but if you guys didnt know that not all s2000 are the same cuz i havea frined that does dyno's and wells he says s2k's never have the same horse power they allwaya end up lower than what the mauacture says it has and wells i havnt got mine dynoed but hey i think my engine is pretty godod cuz i got a 2002 s2k with a f22c1 and thats a 05 engin and wells yeah i think the way im running the internals its prettty much having a s2k on steriods and wells thats why ive beat so many cars ok's

What? Is that suppose to be English?

chemical · 11-01-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gomarlins3

What? Is that suppose to be English?

um my s2k has a bored out engine pretty much to a 2.2 when its originally a 2.0 but really i just got a f22c1 in it thats it

Java Junky · 11-01-2006, 02:10 PM

Whack away s2. When one is moved to whack, far be it from me to try n' convince you otherwize.
You'll pardon my soapbox that I sometimes get up on. It's jus' that I never quite seem to get rid of it n' if it's aroun', sooner r' later I find myself up on it. Again. No offense intended.
N' truthfully . . I don't get psychologicals on any of the guys that I wind up runnin' against either.
Ya rolls da dice. Ya takes yer chances.
Be well.
Java
Say . . do you guys remember when Robin Williams would do his "drug talkin'"? If we played old Beatles LPs backwards at 78 speed (those were vinyl records for you young fellers) would it sound like some of the recent posts?

s2000isu · 11-01-2006, 03:17 PM

haha you werent on a soapbox we just differ in opinion. I have no problems when people disagree with me its when they get snotty about it lol.

10-29-2006, 08:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
chemical Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 135	what have you raced??? Wells you guys what have you raced and beat on a street race it doesn't matter how you raced it could be on a roll or track or drift i just wanted to know so here take a look at this list for you guys and to say my cars stock and i got an s2000 ok's lolz check it * s2000(freeway run) 350z(freeway run) evo(street race) mustang gt or cobra (street race) g35(freeway run) sti (street race) wrz(street race) 300zx ( street race)/ (drift) corvett non zo6( 60mpg roll) ss (street race) z28( 30 miles per hour roll) rs (80 miles per hour) RSX-S(roll at 35) srt-4( street race) 94- 96 twin turbo supra (street races) GTI Golf and alot of the little cars if you know what i mean wells you get the point im just wonder if thats normal ok's get back to me on that

10-29-2006, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,226	Please be a little more specific as to what type of racing. Please also use some punctuation so my eyes don't hurt so much when I try to read what you write. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

10-30-2006, 07:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Okay Go: punctuation? I 'bout fell out'a the chair. Thanks. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-30-2006, 11:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Like the rest'a the fairy tales. Only this time the "Once upon a time" beginnin' was left out. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-30-2006, 12:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Sorry giz, I guess I godda get out more, but the only C5s that I know r' an elderly Ford trans n' a rather large military cargo aircraft. Somehow I don't think that either of those r' what you were referrin' to. What's a c-5? Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-30-2006, 07:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	uh civics, crx. prelude, eclipse gst, old school talon 1st gen, evo, sti, 350z, mustangs a few 4.6 and a few 5.0, small 600cc bikes, old school 70 vettes, 80;s vettes, and c6's, 3.5 se maxima, 2 duramax diesels and i am sure alot more those were mostly races in my other car. The little odd looking car that noone has ever seen before makes people curious i guess

10-30-2006, 12:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
gizorge8 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	hmm, mach 1's, mustangs in general, vipers, vettes, camero SS's, 2006 Roush S/C edition mustang. Supera TT, Audi TT, Preludes. Most of those i raced back when i had Mustangs. This was mostly drag racing, or from like a 70mph rolling start. I did take on a c-5 from a rolling start about 50mph on in my S though, I don't really think the person driving it could drive, I stayed right on him the entire time.

10-30-2006, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	he meens the c5 vette kinda like a 98 model. Well i only assume they were 600cc cause i did well. The one I stayed right with. The other pulled on me nicely. Another my picky car was not running correctly and he stomped me bad. The 600cc's arent that fast and it really depends on the rider.

10-30-2006, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	S2, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but, the guys on the 600s? They've been either havin' a bi' a' sport wi' ya r' ignorin' ya. A 600, to the best of my knowledge, any 600, could dust us at will n' with impunity. I figure they godda be good for damned near 10 second quarters when they're ridden right. Where does Stewie stand a chance with anythin' that quick? Stewie's a great little car, but c'mon folks. It does have physical limitations. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-30-2006, 07:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	hahaha noooooo java i didnt race any in the s2. I raced them in the car that I built. They were def racing me. Also with a bike it depends alot on the rider I had 3 friends with 600's and I know not one got it into the 11's and I think only one made it into the 12's. I dunno if youre interested in other cars but i have somewhat of a rare one as a project car only 800 made I just made a video of it if you wanna take a look. Oh and this is the car that I raced everyhting in. Myspace.com

10-31-2006, 06:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	S2, that was the Impulse that you were talkin' about? I'm not especially capable when it comes to these 'pewta-type things. Didn't get to see the clips. But the part about only 800 made definitely grabs my attention. Exactly what is (was?) it? As for the 600s, the top dogs r' capable of 10s in the quarter. Maybe not with your average street-dweeb (me) at the helm, but with someone of normal reaction, balance n' competitive abilities. So, about that 1 of 800 . . . Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-31-2006, 06:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	It is a isuzu impulse rs it is awd turbocharged with lotus suspension. It has the same engine thats in a lotus elan like a 91 isuzu made it for them. It has recaro seats and all that fun stuff woooo. Mine is very very very far from stock at this point it is sitting in a shop blown up haha. If ya watch the video you will get an idea of whats done.

10-31-2006, 07:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Ahhhhh! A "sleeper". A "Q ship". Ain't much to look at s2. If it's as potent as you say it is, I love it! I've always found that my cars run in phases: I build a nightmare for the street with questionable reliability (the only reliability about those creations is that within 50 feet to a 1/4 mile, the extra power's gonna have it spittin' out little piecey-parts that're gonna godda be replaced, steroided, r' removed n' the whole assembly replaced with somethin' that can handle it . . at which time the power makes it a little further down the drivetrain n' then you've godda go through the whole dance all over again) n' after a while somethin' stock n' reliable starts havin' a very real appeal. A sleeper with a Stewie as the "stock" reliable ride? 'Sounds like a combination made in heaven. Thanks for the heddzupp s2. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-31-2006, 09:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	600s aren't that fast? An older 600 maybe, especially if it's beaten to hell. Ninja 250 boosts some driver egos too since it has fairings like a sportbike. An occasional rider might also be screwing around and just whack open the throttle in 6th at 65, but they're far from 'racing' in that case. (Been there done that). Most riders won't screw around with cars because if the cager does something stupid (besides trying to run a bike), the bike will draw the short straw. Admittedly, launching a 350lb bike isn't trivial. So published ETs in the 10s aren't reached by most riders. But, the traps in the 120s can be reached if you hold that throttle open and keep the front wheel on the ground. This is the case in most street encounters where the bike is already rolling, even a rider who doesn't shift well is in good shape since 1st tops out at ~50-60mph. Ricers never seem to get that: if I'm above 5,000 rpm, all I gotta do is hold the throttle wide open and I'm a ghost.

10-31-2006, 11:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
chemical Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 135	wells hey you guys im wondering what do you guys launch at cuz me i launch at 3 and a half to 4 thousand RPM's wells yeah and its pretty good cuz i used to luanch at 6 but then i got a swap and wells yeah i would stay pealing out from first to second to third and wells yeah i curios at what you guys launch at??????

10-31-2006, 02:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Ummmm-m-m-m-m, Chem? Remember what we all took as a joke that Go made about you needin' some punctuation every 90th word r' so? It might not've been meant as a joke. Okay, now . . I know this is gonna be painful for alodda us. I'm gonna make this as quick n' clean as possible. 'Chin up guys. Average 600 motorcycle weight: roughly 350 - 400 lbs. Average 600 motorcycle horsepower: roughly 85 - 120 Stewie weight: what? 2800 lbs? Stewie horsepower: 240. If any of you still have a problem figurin' which one's gonna dust which one time after time after time . . well . . there's alodda things that we ain't anxious to accept as truth. 'Don't make 'em any less true. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-31-2006, 02:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	hehe well i wouldnt try to race a 600 in my s2000. And yes the 600's arent all that fast. Like i said rider has alot to do with a bikes speed. My friends with 600's put down terrible times they werent gsxr's and they werent great riders but two of the times a stock sti would keep up with and the third a cobra could keep up with and only one of those bikes was old. I am in no way saying my other car smashes 600's im just saying on the right night with the right rider you can feel very good about your car. If you have a 12 second car or faster you are bound to win a race or two against a 600. And chemical what is this motor you put in? I would like to see some pics of a swap.

10-31-2006, 07:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
Halo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 610	So, what you're saying is 600cc bikes are 'not that fast' because your friends don't know how to launch them or make a few shifts? So, then liter bikes are not that fast either. In fact, nothing, including 4 second top fuel cars are not that fast. I don't know how many cobras are pulling 10.5 @ 130+ but the latest 600s are doing those kinds of numbers, in the right hands. Sure, some built, tubbed, rustang with slicks can top that, but this is a stock bike off the dealer lot that you just put gas in and ride.

10-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	No im saying that since my friends cant ride that proves you can beat 600cc bikes. ok did a little bit of googling with a professional rider the 600 cc gsx-r does a 11.149. The ZX-6R does a 10.937. Both respectable numbers. Except not every bike is a zx-6r or a gsx4 and not every bike is ridden by a professional. I know you say the latest bikes but there are plenty of non 2006 bikes on the road. I do have friends with street cars they drive atleast 2-3 times a week that are well in the 10's and i have friends that daily drive cars that are well in the 11's. My car I am not yet sure if itll do 11's but at like 20 psi ill be in the 12's easy and i still have 10 psi to play with and nitrous soon. So against the right bike and a rider that isnt really capable they are beatable thats all im saying. They arent unbeatable like everyone makes them out to be.

11-01-2006, 03:51 AM	#21 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	s2, if I'm readin' this right, you're countin' on the dweeb on the bike to be physically r' mentally challanged. That don't kind'a take the joy out'a the win for you? As averse as I am to allowin' anyone to know how old n' feeble I am, I'm afraid that this has gone on long enough. It calls for somethin' drastic. I'm anything but a "professional" rider. I jus' dot all my i's n' cross all my t's. As I see it my life depends on it. I'm not gifted athletically (it's been said by some that I can't walk n' chew gum at the same time n' there'r' times that I godda agree with 'em). N' like I've said, it may've taken me 2 weekends of tryin', but this unprofessional, not particularly athletic, damned near 60 year old put his R1 into numbers that weren't embarrassingly far from those that were posted by the "professionals". N' most young'uns can do that in their sleep. Bottom line n' totally personally, I'd rather do my best n' lose to the schoolyard bully than to kick 'is ass when he's already damaged/impaired. Be well. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

11-01-2006, 06:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	so by what youre saying at a nascar or indy race the people that are always in the top ten almost every race shouldnt race those people that are always in the last 10 every race? Ya the goal in a race is to win not to be fair. To make it simple a race consists of two things driver skill and vehicle. They already have me on vehicle so i guess at that point it would be my skill vs his. And dont make it sound like its some moron that can barely ride cause at atco raceway i see bikes doing 13's 12's and high 11's all day long. 10's and 9's arent so common. So are you telling me these people at the track racing doing 13's and 12's i shouldnt give them a whack?

11-01-2006, 02:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,909	Whack away s2. When one is moved to whack, far be it from me to try n' convince you otherwize. You'll pardon my soapbox that I sometimes get up on. It's jus' that I never quite seem to get rid of it n' if it's aroun', sooner r' later I find myself up on it. Again. No offense intended. N' truthfully . . I don't get psychologicals on any of the guys that I wind up runnin' against either. Ya rolls da dice. Ya takes yer chances. Be well. Java Say . . do you guys remember when Robin Williams would do his "drug talkin'"? If we played old Beatles LPs backwards at 78 speed (those were vinyl records for you young fellers) would it sound like some of the recent posts? __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

11-01-2006, 03:17 PM	#27 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 984	haha you werent on a soapbox we just differ in opinion. I have no problems when people disagree with me its when they get snotty about it lol.