My S2000 Vs 300zx

[MADMAX27330]

WELL ABOUT A WEEK AGO I POSTED 300ZX VS S2000 AND WELL EVERY BOBY SAID I SHOULD HAVE NO CHANCE!!! I WON BOTH TIMES!

YouTube - S2000 VS 300ZX
YouTube - 300Zx VS S2000

[s2000isu]

i saw you won the 60 foot but it looked even in the other video. anyways nice job

[MADMAX27330]

Thanks Man Well U R Right It Was Close But Hey I Got Him And Him Having 300hp 2 My 240hp Well I Say I Did Pretty Good For My Self!!!

[Scott]

Please Don't Type Like This, It Makes It Difficult To Read. And punctuation is your friend.

Normally, I don't harp on people for their typing skills, because it generally doesn't matter to me. However, when I actually have to go back and read something 3 or 4 times just to understand what the heck you're trying to say, there's a problem.

Anyway, I don't see "EVERY BOBY" telling you that you wouldn't have a chance. In fact, the last S2000 Vs 300z post you made, you had one reply. That one replier said "who knows". Not a defenite yes or no by any means.

A great deal of racing boils down to the driver. For all we know, your friends are all truly terrible drivers. In the 1st video, you got a very slightly better launch. You hardly "smoked" him. And in the 2nd video, it doesn't look like you beat him at all. It looks pretty much dead even, possibly even with the Z slightly ahead at the end. It's hard to see from the terrible cameraman's shaking.

[gomarlins3]

Originally Posted by MADMAX27330

WELL ABOUT A WEEK AGO I POSTED 300ZX VS S2000 AND WELL EVERY BOBY SAID I SHOULD HAVE NO CHANCE!!! I WON BOTH TIMES!

There is no need to yell.

Congrats I guess. Honestly, you can't tell anything from either of those two videos. If you want to impress us, do it at the track and video it there.

[S2Killa]

that's funny cuz I have an S2K and my brother has a 300zx

[blkturbos2k]

the 300zx is a pig. You will win till 3rd. if you do a roll race you will lose

[leo520]

i agree 300zx is still too damn heavy...
the s2000 got only about 2600+ pounds

[s2000isu]

the 300 is a half second faster in the quarter then the s. I dont care if it weights 4 tons.

[Vezna31]

It's all in the drivers. You could beat a Viper if the person doesn't know how to drive.

[leo520]

that's right

[s2000isu]

I dunno about beating a viper. The viper driver would have to try to lose. The 300 i can def agree driver prolly plays a huge role.

[MADMAX27330]

well me and the 300 went 2 the track last weekend and trust me his car is running like **** i think he was running 14.9 or some thing like that it was high 14 but it was bad oh me i just hit my first 14.049 that day!!!

[Scott]

So, you're now admitting that the car you raced was running poorly? That kinda takes away from the importance of your "win"

[MADMAX27330]

well when i first ran him his car was good and running the way 300z should be, but when we went to the track yes is car was running like ****. look i really don't care what happens after 120 miles per hour b/c he has 2 more cylinder and two more turbos then me. look if he cant get me b4 120 some thing is wrong and really i cant say i won b/c his car is running poorly, so u tell me when i can say i have won b/c who really knows what a wins is b/c i can say i did but u can say i didn't so help me out here what is a WIN????

[s2000isu]

I agree a win is a win. You were just updating us on how yours and his car was running. Tell him to give the 300 to me cause he doesnt deserve it. It is a nice car to run such terrible times with. I would also like to point out that a 300 should be whooping us well before 120 miles per hour with someone that has half a clue how to drive.

[MADMAX27330]

well its auto so what can u really do 2 it all u have 2 do is put it 2 the floor

[Scott]

Originally Posted by MADMAX27330

well when i first ran him his car was good and running the way 300z should be, but when we went to the track yes is car was running like ****. look i really don't care what happens after 120 miles per hour b/c he has 2 more cylinder and two more turbos then me. look if he cant get me b4 120 some thing is wrong and really i cant say i won b/c his car is running poorly, so u tell me when i can say i have won b/c who really knows what a wins is b/c i can say i did but u can say i didn't so help me out here what is a WIN????

Punctuation - Exploring English

[bobby2002S2K]

Originally Posted by Scott

Punctuation - Exploring English

Lol, your mean.

[bjurasz]

There's more to drag racing an automatic than simply flooring it. And I agree with Scott, please learn to use punctuation and how to spell. Thanks.

[s2000isu]

Hey guys I think we are going to start a new section on this site. It is going to be English 101. Can you guess who the mods are going to be?

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

Hey guys (and you know who you are) correcting people every single time they're not typing to your standards is getting REALLY old.

Please no more nobody really cares we all know what they are talking about OK

[bjurasz]

Not my standards. Its called English, and I didn't invent it.

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

look we are here to talk about our cars not how people should type.

If you really can't understand it skip don't go on and on about it, did you ever think you might have made some people feel stupid?

Think about it OK we are not here for that
thanks, Morgan

P.S. sorry to everyone this has nothing to do with this thread

[MADMAX27330]

Hell on wheels thank u so much for bringing up whats important here not some lame **** that a few people trying 2 make fun of. Like he said, If u cant read it just shut the hell up and move on thats it i am not here for a lecture on my gramar. so in other words if u really don't like the way i type keep ur fucking comments to ur damn self.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by MADMAX27330

Hell on wheels thank u so much for bringing up whats important here not some lame **** that a few people trying 2 make fun of. Like he said, If u cant read it just shut the hell up and move on thats it i am not here for a lecture on my gramar. so in other words if u really don't like the way i type keep ur fucking comments to ur damn self.

It's spelled "grammar", not "gramar".




Haha, alright I'm done. But to be completely serious about the matter; punctuation, spelling, and grammar ARE very important to me. I only have a few pet peeves, but the biggest one is that people think that just because they are typing on an internet forum, that the most basic rules of composition no longer matter. If you make a few mistakes here and there, then it is perfectly acceptable. I understand almost nobody goes back and proofreads everything they write (I know I don't). But to butcher the language to the point of it being barely legible is just downright obnoxious to me.

Honestly, how hard is it to type with some semblance of diction? And as for saying I'm trying to make people look stupid; well, in my honest opinion, they do a fine job of that themselves. Don't believe me? Go look for a job and submit a resume or application chock full of spelling and grammar errors. Odds are, you won't even be considered for the job. Still in college? Turn in an essay format test in some sore of intangible internet jargon and see what kind of grade you get. I'll bet you it's not going to be a passing grade. Why do you think nearly every news anchor has the very generic "Mid-western" accent? Because proper diction is stressed more often. People who speak with regional accents tend to use more slang. To people who do not commonly communicate using such slang, it comes off as boorish and a bit uneducated. While this is very often not true, it still remains that is how much of our society makes the mental association. However, to have spoken and written the English language your entire life, then half-ass it just because you're on the internet...well, that's just incredibly lazy.

In the real world, to do well for yourself you will need to have a firm grasp of the mechanics of the English language. People will think you're better educated, more presentable, and more worth listening to.

I don't think people need to type perfectly on a forum. Like I said, I don't nitpick every single grammatical error I come across in here, as we all make mistakes. I honestly have better things to do with my time than to go from forum to forum, enforcing the rules of the English language. But when I have to work harder to understand when someone supposedly types in a language I have known my entire life, then something is clearly wrong.

And to go even further off topic: I find it's usually the people with horrible diction and grammar are also in many cases the very same people who say that immigrants who come to this country should be required to learn English.

EDIT: I forgot one thought I meant to put in here. "if u really don't like the way i type keep ur fucking comments to ur damn self." I'm sorry if you're offended. But you know what? This is a forum where people are entitled to their opinions. If you aren't willing to accept that someone thinks differently than you, maybe the internet isn't a place you should be. Thanks, and have a nice day.

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

WOW!! I really hope that made you feel better.

You are right you are free to say what you want to say (but to a point), why not talk about our cars?

Like I said before if it bothers you so much skip it.

[Scott]

And if what I say bothers you, why continue to argue the point? I AM here to talk about cars. I've only made comments about grammar to one other person who insisted on TyPiNg eVeRyThIng LiKe ThIs. Yes, this is a car forum. But are you proposing that any conversations not directly relating to cars be immediately removed? I love my car immensely, but in all honesty I have yet to see an established forum that required every conversation to be strictly about one subject.

This thread from the beginning wasn't much of a car discussion. It was started as a couple grainy videos of some kid illegally street racing one of his buddies.


I'd love to say I felt better after my last post. But it was merely my attempt to get the point across that grammar, punctuation, and spelling do in fact matter. My intent was not to call anyone stupid. More directly, it was to imply that just because we sit behind the veil of anonymity that is the internet forum, there's no reason why we can't converse like adults. I wouldn't speak in broken slang to people I respect in real life, so why would I do any different on a forum?

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

OK fine you got your last word in

I give up, all I was tring to say was you don't have to be...nevermind you missed what I was tring to say in the first place

Have a great one

P.S. I didn't say ALL we had to talk about was our cars

[s2000isu]

Illegally street racing hahaha. Oh man youre one of those guys that drives with the top up arent you?

[Scott]

Originally Posted by s2000isu

Illegally street racing hahaha. Oh man youre one of those guys that drives with the top up arent you?

Yep, you got me pegged. My top never goes down, my car never sees more than 5000 RPM's, and my oil has never been changed by anyone other than a certified Honda mechanic.

Heh, and if you believe that, then I'm not sure what to say. I don't support street racing because it really doesn't prove anything in my eyes. And I definitely don't support video taping it, then posting it for the whole world to see. That's just asking for trouble. No, sadly, I'm one of the few who drive the S2000 like it was actually intended. Road courses, autocrosses, and HPDE's. Very sorry to disappoint. It's a true shame that I am so dedicated to my car, I will push the car to it's actual limit, rather than just try and zip it down a straight line on some public road where I'm possibly endangering innocent lives.

Originally Posted by HELL_ON_WHEELS

OK fine you got your last word in

I give up, all I was tring to say was you don't have to be...nevermind you missed what I was tring to say in the first place

Have a great one

P.S. I didn't say ALL we had to talk about was our cars

You were trying to say "correcting people every single time they're not typing to your standards is getting REALLY old." In fact, you even DID say exactly that. However, there were two issues I had with the statement.

1. I haven't seen anyone on here correct people every single time that made a mistake in typing. 99% of the errors I see on here, I don't even second guess because the intent of the message is still precise and clear. But every once in awhile, you see someone who types so poorly, that their idea isn't met with a clear reception.

2. Perhaps, reading poor grammar from certain individuals (you know who you are) was also getting old. I have just as much of a right to mention it as they do to type like that.

So, obviously I saw your point, didn't agree with it; and thus presented you with my point of view. So, I appreciate your attempt to patronize me, but next time you should be sure that your words are truly falling on deaf ears.

So, back at you. Have a great evening.

[HELL_ON_WHEELS]

nope still missed what I was saying

[Scott]

Actually, "correcting people every single time they're not typing to your standards is getting REALLY old." is specifically what you said in your first post in this thread. But if that isn't what you meant, maybe you should have said what you meant right off the bat.

But it really doesn't matter. It's all semantics at this point.

[s2000isu]

See I think this is where I disagree with you. I dont normally race people because I have something to prove. I race because its fun. I like the feeling of being back into my seat. I like trying to get that perfect launch where it feels like the front end is three feet in the air. I raced my buddies 12 second camaro I had nothing to prove. I also plan on going to a few drag events along with some autocrossing. Tomorrow I will be driving it to work just like I did today yesterday and so on. I think I am using the car like honda intended. I am driving the car and having fun while doing it.

[Scott]

Well, if it makes you happy, then more power to you. Not sure why you assumed I'm afraid to put the top down just because I don't support street racing and because I choose to type the same way I would write. Not sure where the correlation was on that one. I think what makes street racing dangerous is the lack of control. If it's just you and a couple friends out in the middle of nowhere, with no chance of endangering anyone not involved, then go for it. But far too many people say they get the rush from doing top end highway runs, streetlight-to-streetlight races, and so forth. I don't street race for the same reason I don't ride a motorcycle. I've seen far too many dead, mangled bodies as the result of people "just trying to have fun" on the streets. I've had to talk to too many friends and loved ones as the person laying next to them, bleeding out. Like I said, it's a matter of control (or lack thereof).

I even got a good laugh when you made a joke at my expense about making an English 101 sub-forum.

[bjurasz]

Hell On Wheels, what were you trying to say?

s2000isu, racing for fun is great. Racing on the street... that's where I also have issues with Mad Max. I've been there, done that, finally learned how stupid it is. Learned that about lap 1.5 around Hallett Motor Racing circuit.

You will enjoy the autocross much more than the drag racing. Have fun with it.

[s2000isu]

I said the top down thing because you seemed like you were being a stick in the mud. Youre right I have seen a car flip because they lost control while street racing. I also saw a seven car accident where 2 cars flipped the others were destroyed and there were two bodies laying on the ground cause they flew out. They werent street racing. They way I look at it is anything can happen at anytime. If I worried about that stuff I would have purchased a volvo or saab.

[Scott]

You're right. Things like this DO happen all the time. But why increase the risk. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm the first person who will say that. I speed on occasion, and I've done reckless things before on the street. But I've made a point never to race on a public road where there are other drivers. I've simply worked far too hard to risk losing my car or my license, or even worse, to live with the fact that I ended an innocent life. That is something I never want to experience.

Many bad car wrecks are because people are driving beyond what they can control. Either they are intoxicated, overly tired, not paying attention, going faster than is safe in their car, or any of the other things. Not all accidents are avoidable, but many would be if people would just focus a little more on being a good driver. Street racing, in my opinion, is just an extension of what happens when you let just anyone get a license and do whatever the hell they want. Not everyone who street races is a bad driver, just like not everyone who rides a motorcycle is a bad rider...but all it takes is one split second of someone not paying attention, and it's all over.

[eastcoastautokrew]

i agree its all driver i wouldnt dout a s2000 beating a 300zx, is it turbo , twinturbo?, modded?, point being if you can drive you will take stock for stock a turbo 300zx but would have a problem taking a tt 300zx, they ran high 13s back then most low 14s cuz of drivers, so i wouldnt dout a s2000 at least hanging with a TT, so you have my vote, only thing i dont like bout my S is no low end torque , so good kill

[eastcoastautokrew]

1st off its all driver, 2nd 60hp is a difference but a S is 2733 well mine is , a 300 is at the least 3500 plus, 10hp+100lbs think of it like that so lets say 300 is 3600 and S is 2800 we will say thats 800lbs, so equal that to 80hp, that would be 320hp for S so technically i wouldnt dout the S, if it had more low end torque the S would of murdered it, but they say race what u brung. but good kill, mostly the driving tho, good job