just please doont kill me

cleargrip · 02-27-2008, 04:27 PM

i love my s2000 i really do but lately ive been having second thoughts about it its extremely fun to drive and sounds great but i want that feeling that i can OWN anything on the road i just dont really get that from my s2000 i havent modded it or anything but i got beat by a srt4 i have no idea if he had any mods or what but it killed my v-tech spirit man i was so bummed can some fellow owners help me out can my s2000 be that 'own anything car' with proper mods or tuning or should i look elsewhere either way im still keeping my s2

ap1sleeper · 02-27-2008, 05:19 PM

I for one will tell you if the SR-T walked you, then it was modded! Another thing that you need to know is the S2000 was/is designed as a track car. The SR-T would have had NO chance with you on a track or curvey road. There are FEW cars in this price point that could keep up with you in those circumstances...EVO owners and fans will hate me for this, but the STI's and EVO could not keep up with you in the moutains of curvey roads either (if both were on the same skill level drivers). The car is not made to have low-end torque, so if this "race" was from a dead stop, he is going to pull on you. I would not let it get to you, ANYONE can drive a car in a straight line...if you know what I am talking about.

So simple horse power gains would be a drop in K&N filter (FIPK full intake will create a TAD more HP, but the stock box is more level increase in power), a cat-back exhaust, and the E-Manage ultimate (unless you own an 06' DONT DO THE EMANAGE yet, LOTS of problems with the 06' model and heavy driving). With those mods you should be around 250-260RWHP vs. the stock 205-210 at the wheel. Also, unlike most believe the more miles and the more times you USE the V-tech, the more power the engine will create....Dont get down about the car, just realize what it is designed for. This is why SO MANY people track these cars instead of building them for drag races..

Pablo · 02-27-2008, 05:29 PM

Mr Grip. I hate to tell ya, but you will never, ever "own" anything on the road. You may get that "feeling" but it is only a "feeling". The reality is there will always be some one out thee who is bigger, badder, meaner and FASTER than you, unless perhaps, you have deep pockets with no bottoms.

Now, if you want that "feeling" and don't want to spend 250K to 500K you might want to try a Suzuki Hyabusa.

Good luck with your quest.

Neil · 02-27-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleargrip

i love my s2000 i really do but lately ive been having second thoughts about it its extremely fun to drive and sounds great but i want that feeling that i can OWN anything on the road i just dont really get that from my s2000 i havent modded it or anything but i got beat by a srt4 i have no idea if he had any mods or what but it killed my v-tech spirit man i was so bummed can some fellow owners help me out can my s2000 be that 'own anything car' with proper mods or tuning or should i look elsewhere either way im still keeping my s2

To be the best or the fastest is not what its all about. You seem like a young fella to me and it seems your pride is hurt cause you got beat. I really don't think it matters what car you have, some one somewhere is gonna beat you possibly in a car you least expect. As you get older other priorities are gonna take its place, I just hope you dont become a statistic
or make the local paper.
Winning and loosing is just part of life. You have a great car so enjoy it for what it can offer.
Just my opinion...................................

Neil

gomarlins3 · 02-27-2008, 05:37 PM

You need to switch cars. Sell the S and get something else.

D1sclaimer · 02-27-2008, 05:57 PM

If you feel that you need to own anything in a line... then get some Murican muscle. If you want a reliable car that'll own the twisties and give you an exhilerating ride, keep the s. If you want both... Spend over 100,000 dollars on a ferrari.

If I were you. You already committed to the s. Buy a turbo or super. Or better, do an expensive 2jz turbo swap that gets around 900 hp. Either way, more hp = less reliable. I like mine to be reliable.

philiam · 02-27-2008, 06:12 PM

Lot of good thoughts here. Even if you beat someone,
what have you gained? Money, fame? No, you just thrashed a great piece of engineering and put yourself and others at risk. It's not about going faster, but about going smoother and enjoying the ride.

Just an observation from lots of years on the road.

controller · 02-27-2008, 06:29 PM

The S is a momentum car. You make up time not because you can accelerate hard, but because you can brake late and carry more speed through the corners. I remember watching a GT race between a Saleen Mustang and a 911. The Mustang caught up to the 911 on every straight, but the 911 won because it could brake later in the turns, carried more speed, and forced the stang to play catch up on the straights.

The SRT4 strikes me as a stop light assassin. I've never driven one, so I can be wrong. If you're going to mod your car, do it for what you want out of your car, not because of someone else's car.

c

s2000isu · 02-27-2008, 06:30 PM

So phil by that statement I assume you dont enjoy sports or checkers or anything along those lines?

cleargrip · 02-27-2008, 06:45 PM

well guys thanks for all the input i really do love this car because it really does FEEL like im driving not just.....well not i really do like a fast 0-60 though and plenty of good torque any ways of getting that maybe some carbon fiber

DJJSR · 02-27-2008, 06:51 PM

Grip - get a grip. You must be young and haven't learned the lesson yet. It's like Pablo says, there's always going to be someone out there that will send you wimpering away with your tail between your legs.

You'll never get to the top of the heap, but if you want to be higher on it, all it takes is experience and lots of money. If you don't have those and you're still obsessed with it, try therapy.

cleargrip · 02-27-2008, 07:02 PM

yes i know i wasn't saying anything like that i just want to help it i have driving experience this is currently my third car i also have a 2003 M5 and a 1972 datsun 240z and i looking to put an ls7 in it but im afraid that my wheels will just spin because of all the torque, anyway i appreciate all the help guys i will take it to heart

Java Junky · 02-27-2008, 07:05 PM

Sell it n' get somethin' else 'r don't.
"Own everything on the road???"
You're tryin' ta live a daydream.
Java

cleargrip · 02-27-2008, 07:09 PM

just an expression man know that there will be people faster

philiam · 02-27-2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2000isu

So phil by that statement I assume you dont enjoy sports or checkers or anything along those lines?

I enjoy a sunset, most anything by Mozart, Duke Ellington, driving a fine machine smoothly around corners being in control, sushi, pot roast, the feel of a really good camera and lens, Remy Martin, the love of a good woman and much more.

When you have all of that, why would I need to risk life and limb, mine and others, just so I can brag that I "own" someone? I have won trophies drag racing. Couldn't tell you where they are today. I enjoy sports, watching professionals under controlled conditions that don't run the risk of decimating a family because I can get away from the light faster or fail to stop for a red light and T-bone another car.

No, I have too much to do to play checkers, although an occasional game of chess helps keep the dendrites going. I played video games when the Commodore 64 came out. After spending hours, one day I realized I hadn't accomplished anything. I have had a lot of experiences in my life though and wouldn't trade them for anything.

Anyhow, that's my take on what life is about. To each their own.

gomarlins3 · 02-27-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleargrip

.well not i really do like a fast 0-60 though and plenty of good torque any ways of getting that maybe some carbon fiber

HUH?? How would adding carbon fiber help you with torque?

D1sclaimer · 02-27-2008, 07:37 PM

gears would be the cheapest, easiest, and most reliable mod I would do if I were him. Your top end wouldn't really change too much considering you can't hit top end cause of drag in a stock stewie.

Carbon fiber is just way to much expensive to do a bunch of weight reduction with. I think losing weight on a diet would be better and cheaper.

Java Junky · 02-27-2008, 08:39 PM

There is no problem that cannot be decisively dealt with using the appropriate, or, over appropriate amount of C-4.

s2kx2 · 02-27-2008, 09:43 PM

Oh God ... Not again.

Java its time for the driving school lesson/speech

Java Junky · 02-27-2008, 10:20 PM

Oh . . . I dunno x2. The more I think about the C-4 . . . . . .

Scooter · 02-27-2008, 11:27 PM

I think about it now and then, particularly when commuting, do you have any with a short range launch we could attach to the front bumper? Something with TEXT THIS, DUDE! written on it?

Sorry.

Red Stwokay · 02-28-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1sleeper

So simple horse power gains would be a drop in K&N filter (FIPK full intake will create a TAD more HP, but the stock box is more level increase in power), a cat-back exhaust, and the E-Manage ultimate (unless you own an 06' DONT DO THE EMANAGE yet, LOTS of problems with the 06' model and heavy driving). With those mods you should be around 250-260RWHP vs. the stock 205-210 at the wheel.

Hey ap1, Is the E-Manage the issue or the car? I've got an 06. So far great no problems but I've only put about 2500 miles on it. It's bone stock and beats plenty of people. Not that I race

But the S has been known to take control at times?

Java Junky · 02-28-2008, 02:12 AM

Oh, you got one'a the mind'uv-it's-own Stewiez too Red?

jagg · 02-28-2008, 05:38 AM

Clear Grip !!!!

What are you talking about lad? You already own that srt4 piece of junk......that car will be falling apart just about the time your Stewie is getting broke in. If you want to own everything on the road, you need to buy the road.

M5 huh? Which setup? Loves the bimmers, I do.

jagg

cleargrip · 02-28-2008, 06:57 AM

not to sure about the M5 i just got like literally a week ago all i know is its got 400bhp and looks perfect it looks just like a regular 5 seris except for the quad exhaust of course but thats why i got the 03 instead of the 07 because the 07 was just to flashy

jagg · 02-28-2008, 07:05 AM

Well, you know how you independently wealthy types are.......buy buy buy!!!
You already own the road with the M.......

jagg

CherryPopper · 02-28-2008, 07:05 AM

If your here for just speed your looking for something with two wheels not four, that redlines at about 16,500 rpm, the smell of octane gets me off! lol jk

Java Junky · 02-28-2008, 07:24 AM

'Sides me Stewie I've a 2006 Baluga n' a 2007 Gargonzolla. 'Wanted me the 2004 Gargonzolla on'account'a it had more'uv'an air aboudd'er, bu' the shelf-life made gettin' insurance an iffy affair.
Got me eye'z peeled fer a new Libretto. 'Love'z the sound whut they makes comin' down a long straight.
Java (Aw . . you guyz knew it wuz me, din'cha?)

02-27-2008, 04:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
cleargrip Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59	just please doont kill me i love my s2000 i really do but lately ive been having second thoughts about it its extremely fun to drive and sounds great but i want that feeling that i can OWN anything on the road i just dont really get that from my s2000 i havent modded it or anything but i got beat by a srt4 i have no idea if he had any mods or what but it killed my v-tech spirit man i was so bummed can some fellow owners help me out can my s2000 be that 'own anything car' with proper mods or tuning or should i look elsewhere either way im still keeping my s2

02-27-2008, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 454	Mr Grip. I hate to tell ya, but you will never, ever "own" anything on the road. You may get that "feeling" but it is only a "feeling". The reality is there will always be some one out thee who is bigger, badder, meaner and FASTER than you, unless perhaps, you have deep pockets with no bottoms. Now, if you want that "feeling" and don't want to spend 250K to 500K you might want to try a Suzuki Hyabusa. Good luck with your quest. __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

02-27-2008, 05:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,236	You need to switch cars. Sell the S and get something else. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

02-27-2008, 05:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 269	If you feel that you need to own anything in a line... then get some Murican muscle. If you want a reliable car that'll own the twisties and give you an exhilerating ride, keep the s. If you want both... Spend over 100,000 dollars on a ferrari. If I were you. You already committed to the s. Buy a turbo or super. Or better, do an expensive 2jz turbo swap that gets around 900 hp. Either way, more hp = less reliable. I like mine to be reliable. __________________ http://www.zcarsofnebraska.com/home.htm Don't own a Z, but they're local and almost like the s2000 crowd.

02-27-2008, 06:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 1,128	Lot of good thoughts here. Even if you beat someone, what have you gained? Money, fame? No, you just thrashed a great piece of engineering and put yourself and others at risk. It's not about going faster, but about going smoother and enjoying the ride. Just an observation from lots of years on the road. __________________

02-27-2008, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
ap1sleeper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 137	I for one will tell you if the SR-T walked you, then it was modded! Another thing that you need to know is the S2000 was/is designed as a track car. The SR-T would have had NO chance with you on a track or curvey road. There are FEW cars in this price point that could keep up with you in those circumstances...EVO owners and fans will hate me for this, but the STI's and EVO could not keep up with you in the moutains of curvey roads either (if both were on the same skill level drivers). The car is not made to have low-end torque, so if this "race" was from a dead stop, he is going to pull on you. I would not let it get to you, ANYONE can drive a car in a straight line...if you know what I am talking about. So simple horse power gains would be a drop in K&N filter (FIPK full intake will create a TAD more HP, but the stock box is more level increase in power), a cat-back exhaust, and the E-Manage ultimate (unless you own an 06' DONT DO THE EMANAGE yet, LOTS of problems with the 06' model and heavy driving). With those mods you should be around 250-260RWHP vs. the stock 205-210 at the wheel. Also, unlike most believe the more miles and the more times you USE the V-tech, the more power the engine will create....Dont get down about the car, just realize what it is designed for. This is why SO MANY people track these cars instead of building them for drag races..

02-27-2008, 06:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
controller Yellow is the fastest. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 278	The S is a momentum car. You make up time not because you can accelerate hard, but because you can brake late and carry more speed through the corners. I remember watching a GT race between a Saleen Mustang and a 911. The Mustang caught up to the 911 on every straight, but the 911 won because it could brake later in the turns, carried more speed, and forced the stang to play catch up on the straights. The SRT4 strikes me as a stop light assassin. I've never driven one, so I can be wrong. If you're going to mod your car, do it for what you want out of your car, not because of someone else's car. c

02-27-2008, 06:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
s2000isu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pa Posts: 992	So phil by that statement I assume you dont enjoy sports or checkers or anything along those lines? __________________ S2kx2: "paint it pink! Or better yet buy a Miata" 2001 Vortech SC 12.8 at 111 miles per hour

02-27-2008, 06:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
cleargrip Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59	well guys thanks for all the input i really do love this car because it really does FEEL like im driving not just.....well not i really do like a fast 0-60 though and plenty of good torque any ways of getting that maybe some carbon fiber

02-27-2008, 06:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,269	Grip - get a grip. You must be young and haven't learned the lesson yet. It's like Pablo says, there's always going to be someone out there that will send you wimpering away with your tail between your legs. You'll never get to the top of the heap, but if you want to be higher on it, all it takes is experience and lots of money. If you don't have those and you're still obsessed with it, try therapy. __________________ Don

02-27-2008, 07:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
cleargrip Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59	yes i know i wasn't saying anything like that i just want to help it i have driving experience this is currently my third car i also have a 2003 M5 and a 1972 datsun 240z and i looking to put an ls7 in it but im afraid that my wheels will just spin because of all the torque, anyway i appreciate all the help guys i will take it to heart

02-27-2008, 07:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,910	Sell it n' get somethin' else 'r don't. "Own everything on the road???" You're tryin' ta live a daydream. Java __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

02-27-2008, 07:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
cleargrip Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59	just an expression man know that there will be people faster

02-27-2008, 07:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 269	gears would be the cheapest, easiest, and most reliable mod I would do if I were him. Your top end wouldn't really change too much considering you can't hit top end cause of drag in a stock stewie. Carbon fiber is just way to much expensive to do a bunch of weight reduction with. I think losing weight on a diet would be better and cheaper. __________________ http://www.zcarsofnebraska.com/home.htm Don't own a Z, but they're local and almost like the s2000 crowd.

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Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,910	There is no problem that cannot be decisively dealt with using the appropriate, or, over appropriate amount of C-4. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

02-27-2008, 09:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
s2kx2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 296	Oh God ... Not again. Java its time for the driving school lesson/speech Last edited by s2kx2 : 02-27-2008 at 09:50 PM.

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Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,910	Oh . . . I dunno x2. The more I think about the C-4 . . . . . . __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

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Scooter Senior Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 779	I think about it now and then, particularly when commuting, do you have any with a short range launch we could attach to the front bumper? Something with TEXT THIS, DUDE! written on it? Sorry.

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Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,910	Oh, you got one'a the mind'uv-it's-own Stewiez too Red? __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

02-28-2008, 05:38 AM	#24 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,169	Clear Grip !!!! What are you talking about lad? You already own that srt4 piece of junk......that car will be falling apart just about the time your Stewie is getting broke in. If you want to own everything on the road, you need to buy the road. M5 huh? Which setup? Loves the bimmers, I do. jagg

02-28-2008, 06:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
cleargrip Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59	not to sure about the M5 i just got like literally a week ago all i know is its got 400bhp and looks perfect it looks just like a regular 5 seris except for the quad exhaust of course but thats why i got the 03 instead of the 07 because the 07 was just to flashy

02-28-2008, 07:05 AM	#26 (permalink)
jagg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Endless Mountains Posts: 2,169	Well, you know how you independently wealthy types are.......buy buy buy!!! You already own the road with the M....... jagg

02-28-2008, 07:05 AM	#27 (permalink)
CherryPopper Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Monterey Bay, CA Posts: 43	If your here for just speed your looking for something with two wheels not four, that redlines at about 16,500 rpm, the smell of octane gets me off! lol jk __________________ "Challenged by many, Equal to few"

02-28-2008, 07:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 4,910	'Sides me Stewie I've a 2006 Baluga n' a 2007 Gargonzolla. 'Wanted me the 2004 Gargonzolla on'account'a it had more'uv'an air aboudd'er, bu' the shelf-life made gettin' insurance an iffy affair. Got me eye'z peeled fer a new Libretto. 'Love'z the sound whut they makes comin' down a long straight. Java (Aw . . you guyz knew it wuz me, din'cha?) ___