beat spec v then speeding ticket

[lovemyap1]

i had just got done spanking a nissan spec v.....all doner messing around then i go past a U-turn and pass a cop...he ticketed me with 78 in a 65. but i passed him at all of 90 so i know he did not radar me but he said he did. i think it will be 4 points unless i get a lawyer. what should i do?

[Java Junky]

Do?
Take as much satisfaction as you possibly can from "spanking a nissan spec v".
It's gonna cost enough.
Java

[sky2k]

did he just get you for speeding, or for racing?? cuz that would be hard to get out of...otherwise, i'd do what java said..take the satisfaction

[jagg]

what should i do?

Stop drivin' like a tard, bro.......
Otherwise, pay the price.

What's the difference between payin' the lawyer and paying the Man? Your wallet doesn't know naught betwixt 'em.


Regards,
Jagg

[s2kx2]

AMEN jagg! ... AMEN!

Originally Posted by jagg

Stop drivin' like a tard, bro.......
Otherwise, pay the price.

What's the difference between payin' the lawyer and paying the Man? Your wallet doesn't know naught betwixt 'em.


Regards,
Jagg

[philiam]

Next time play it smart and let the other guy lead the way.

[Neil]

We all do it to some extent, to bad you got caught. Now it gets pricey !

Neil

[DJJSR]

Tough break.

But if ya wanna dance, ya gotta pay the fiddler.

[lovemyap1]

i was already done racing 3 exits before i passed the cop in the u-turn. the spec v already had gotton off the highway. i was just cruzin at 78. the speedlimit was 65. i usually cruz faster thank that. people were going faster than me at the time but i guess the cop chose the nice car. there was no racing involed. i am not worried about the price for the lawyer/court thats the least of my worries.

[gomarlins3]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

what should i do?

Take it to the track, that's what they are for.

[Boost Convert]

Originally Posted by DJJSR

Tough break.

But if ya wanna dance, ya gotta pay the fiddler.

+1

[sonic]

Originally Posted by sky2k

did he just get you for speeding, or for racing??

+1

Nice win though.

[Pablo]

You don't need a lawyer unless you did something so grievous that they are going to yank your license or put you in the slammer.

I think a good course fo action is to plead not guilty, assuming you have the time to go to court. Here in NY, depending on where you are, you will either "negotiate" with the ADA or the police officer himself. If you are contrite and /or have a good excuse you will USUALLY get a plea bargain. Sometimes for a lesser speed, sometimes for a lesser offense (less points). Sometimes the cop is too busy and doesn't show up to testify and the case gets thrown out. The worst case scenario is they say "NO" and yo pay the fine. They can't make is worse. All you loose is the time and effort.

Also in addition going to court take time sometimes up to a year or more. All this tme the poiints do not go on your license. If adn when you do get convicted the 18 months the points stay on your license is calculated from the time you got the ticket. So another benefit is that you burn up some time without having the points on your license. This is useful just in case you have another "incident" with the law before the 18 months are up.

Just adn an example, I have a BIKER friend of mine that got a speed tix while riding her Ninja out in the Hamptons, on LI. She pleeded "not guilty" went to court. Got the tix plea bargained down to "Not wearing a seat belt" I swear, true story.

Good luck!

Oh, yeah, and one more thing, please follow G3's good advice!

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by jagg

What's the difference between payin' the lawyer and paying the Man? Your wallet doesn't know naught betwixt 'em.

Jagg, the difference is that if you get the offense eliminated or reduced it is less points on your license which can be helpful if you run afoul of the law in the next 18 months while the points are on your license.

[Swingle1]

Yep... insurance premiums are a definite reason to fight. Interesting that your points only last 18 months in NY.

In TX, they tag you for 39 months. But in most juristictions, they allow for "deferred ajudication". You pay the fine, but if you keep your nose clean for 6 months, the ticket "goes away".

[jagg]

Jagg, the difference is that if you get the offense eliminated or reduced it is less points on your license which can be helpful if you run afoul of the law in the next 18 months while the points are on your license.
__________________

Yeah Pablo, I get it......
I was a little hard on the lad.......Sorry lovemyap1.

The point to my post, that I didn't express very well, was that if you're gonna exceed the posted speed limit (on an interstate, Memorial Day weekend none the less) then you're going to run into trouble.
And don't get me started on the street racing.....dumbest thing ever.
Trust me, I'm not driving around at the speed limit all the time either.
BUT, there's a time and place for everything.

regards,
jagg

[lovemyap1]

i must agree jagg it was a bad time. i just could not help it....the guy in the spec v actually thought he had a chance, i could not let that happen.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by jagg

Yeah Pablo,
And don't get me started on the street racing.....dumbest thing ever.
Trust me, I'm not driving around at the speed limit all the time either.
BUT, there's a time and place for everything.
jagg

I agree on all counts, but Jagg I think you need to look at your speedo more often. I think you will find, that like most of the driving population, you almost never do the speed limit. Granted you are probably just going over the limit 5 maybe 10 miles per hour.

When I drive the interstates with limits of 55 - 65 miles per hour, almost every one is going faster than that unless there happens to be a watchful policeman present. A person actually driving the speed limit, at least in my experience, is an absolute rarity. I think it's important to drive safely and not make a spectcale of your self. Doing really stupid S_ _ T is absolutely verboten.

As for street racing, well lets just say sure, it's not a good idea, but sometimes the testosterone gets the better of one's good judgement. Must be especially tough for the young'uns. Gotta try and keep it under control though.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

i could not let that happen.

Well, Lovemyap1, the truth is, you COULD have let it happen. Your pride might have been tarnished a bit, and your ego bruised, but that is probably better than a banged up "S", an injured person or persons and having your driving privileges yanked. But, that being said my friend, I understand I really do.

If I keep this up I'm going to have to change my sig.

[lovemyap1]

at least i am not the only one out there. well lets just say if you own an s2k and you always do the speed limit why do you own it?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

at least i am not the only one out there. well lets just say if you own an s2k and you always do the speed limit why do you own it?

So ya can look purdy, and attract hot babes in skimpy clothing.

Of course, since I'm old, fat and bald, it doesn't work......so I just speed instead.

[H20]

Last night on the way to go boat racing I was in a bit of a hurry. Wasnt going much faster then anyone else, only slightly in fact, and went right through a speed trap at 75 in a 55 on I95. Figured I was done but he just let me drive on. And this in a new formula red!
So..There but for the grace of God go I.
I already pay 6 grand a year because of my kid's stellar driving record. That would have REALLY hurt.
I kept her on cruise control set to 64 miles per hour for the ride home. You don't even notice you are speeding in these cars..or most cars now for that matter.
And BTW..at 64, EVERYBODY was passing me. And it's a 55 zone. I just can NOT get a speeding ticket dammit.
And what the hell is a spec V?? Some fancy Z car? I thought new Z's were slightly quicker then S's.

[Java Junky]

As I've understood it, street-racin'z usually racin' on streets servin' densely populated areaz: 2 vehicle driven by those in denial've what they learned about impenetribility in Physicz 101 n' vyin' ta occupy one space. This, done ta the tune'a highly populated areas where the oddz've'a screw-up'z gonna involve livez not even remotely involved'r even aware that there'z'a speed contest in progress.
Granted, some'a that could also be said of speedin', but speedin'z usually done solo, most'a the time, with not much danger but ta those in the car and the driver'z wallet (that much-desired morsel too temptin'ta be ignored by so many townshipz'n municipalitiez).
'Z'far'z this ol' dawg'z concerned, joinin'em tagether at the hip'z both an insult to the responsible'n experienced speeder n'an acceptance that irresponsible and extreme use of a vehicle with little or no concern for the outcome of one's actions regarding the local populace has become part of today's norm.
That don't work fer me brother.
Java

[lovemyap1]

a "spec v" is a nissan sentra. the spec v is the sporty version, 6speed a lil faster than the others.

[s2kx2]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

at least i am not the only one out there. well lets just say if you own an s2k and you always do the speed limit why do you own it?

I am surprised that you would even ask such a question. But ... since you did here is my answer. I own mine because I wanted them for reasons well beyond the mindless thrill of "spanking" a 4 door sedan with a slightly tuned 4 cylinder.

[philiam]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

I am surprised that you would even ask such a question. But ... since you did here is my answer. I own mine because I wanted them for reasons well beyond the mindless thrill of "spanking" a 4 door sedan with a slightly tuned 4 cylinder.

Me too!

[lovemyap1]

i was not refuring to what you thought of me beating a slow car. i was refuring to the speeding ticket and what i should do. i thought that was simple to figure out....but i guess not everyone pays attention. basically lawyer or no lawyer

[philiam]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

i was not refuring to what you thought of me beating a slow car. i was refuring to the speeding ticket and what i should do. i thought that was simple to figure out....but i guess not everyone pays attention. basically lawyer or no lawyer

Consult an attorney.

[D1sclaimer]

Most states have classes for your first offense for speeding(1-19 over) or other "smaller" violations. Like my state, you can only take the class once every 3 years and it'll wipe it off your record cause the state will drop it.

I would also suggest a radar detector if you unintentionally have a lead foot. I've got one and its saved me plenty of times. Get a good one and you'll get great range and little to no falses. If you get lasered though, its just telling you you got a ticket.
http://www.radardetector.net

[s2kx2]

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

i was not refuring to what you thought of me beating a slow car. i was refuring to the speeding ticket and what i should do. i thought that was simple to figure out....but i guess not everyone pays attention. basically lawyer or no lawyer

I rest my case

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

I own mine because I wanted them for reasons well beyond the mindless thrill of "spanking" a 4 door sedan with a slightly tuned 4 cylinder.

Damn, this thread is gettin' ugly.

[s2kx2]

Originally Posted by philiam

Consult an attorney.

or .... a brain surgeon LOL

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

or .... a brain surgeon LOL

Gettin' even uglier.

And by the way, I think if you wanted to insult the chap further, and I really don't understand why you are ragging on a fellow S2 owner, you should have recommended a psychiatrist not a brain surgeon. I think you need to get the job descriptions of the medical professional community straight.

[s2kx2]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Gettin' even uglier.

And by the way, I think if you wanted to insult the chap further, and I really don't understand why you are ragging on a fellow S2 owner, you should have recommended a psychiatrist not a brain surgeon. I think you need to get the job descriptions of the medical professional community straight.

Pablo, Pablo, Pablo .... I do not believe psychiatry will help the street racing testosterone driven ones who confuse the "ABC's" of performance driving.
"A" being ... the Ability to know your cars limitations "B" ... the Brains (all to often confused with balls) and "C" ... the capability to know where and when to race. You want to race? Fine. Do it at a track, not on the street where others not interested in your "ego" driven spanking of a lesser sedan will be involved. Perhaps I should add "D" to Denny Hulmes words for ... "Don't ask fellow S2000 owners how to advise you on your decision to be a "D***A$$" when you were lucky to not kill someone or yourself. It was YOUR decision now ... live with and hopefully learn from the consequences of those actions.

[Java Junky]

Nope. 'Fraid not Pab ol' buddy.
Ugly wuz that french pug-ugly-lookin' car whut challenged the viewer to determine the front from the back . . 'r the side fer that matter.
Come ta think'uv'itt . . it wuz never actually determined that it wuz right side up.
Now that wuz ugly.

This? This'izz jus' differencez'uv opinion'n if it weren't fer them, whudd're we gonna talk about?
I godda red one. I godda silver one. Whoa! No way! I godda silver one too!
I'll take impassioned arguement for 50.
Every time.
Be well, n' like ol' Esterhauz says: "Let'z be careful out there."
Java

[Scooter]

Racin' is racin' - you did it, and got caught. I doubt it was your first time, I figure you've done it "dozens of times" without getting caught, so this ticket is just the toll for all of those other times... Divided out, it's probably pretty cheap entertainment, right?

[lovemyap1]

ok people let me explain this again b/c obviously not everyone is reading it CLOSELY. i did not get caught "racing". i just happened to race someone like 10 miles before i got pulled over. the other guy had already gotton off the highway. thats when he gets off an on an exit ramp and is no longer driving on the highway. so now that left me still on the highway WITHOUT THE OTHER CAR just cruzin. the speed limit was 65 but he pulled me over for 78. my point was i was not going that fast and i dont think i should have gotton a ticket. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH NOW.............. but yes it is cheap entertaiment especially when you can afford it....
now if anyone is still confused feel free to ask more questions children

[s2kx2]

The only child here is you my friend. We all understand that you were not cited for racing. That said, the points being made here to you are as follows:

1. YOU got caught for speeding. It happens.
2. YOU admitted that you were racing on a public road prior to getting pulled over. (see above)
3. YOU are RESPONSIBLE for being over the limit and getting caught. (see above)
4. YOU are asking fellow S2000 owners how to help you beat the rap.
5. YOU should put on your "man pants"and consider yourself lucky. Here ends the lesson.
Have a nice day!

Originally Posted by lovemyap1

ok people let me explain this again b/c obviously not everyone is reading it CLOSELY. i did not get caught "racing". i just happened to race someone like 10 miles before i got pulled over. the other guy had already gotton off the highway. thats when he gets off an on an exit ramp and is no longer driving on the highway. so now that left me still on the highway WITHOUT THE OTHER CAR just cruzin. the speed limit was 65 but he pulled me over for 78. my point was i was not going that fast and i dont think i should have gotton a ticket. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH NOW.............. but yes it is cheap entertaiment especially when you can afford it....
now if anyone is still confused feel free to ask more questions children

[DJJSR]

Originally Posted by s2kx2

YOU should put on your "man pants"
and consider yourself lucky.

Perfect summary.

[Pablo]

QUOTE
Java:

"This? This'izz jus' differencez'uv opinion'n if it weren't fer them, whudd're we gonna talk about? "

Actually, Java,for the most part, there is no difference of opinion. I pretty much agree with ole' X2 and the others who condemn street racing. It was more the "tone" of the argument that I objected to. I guess it was just one of those darn, troublesome, school teacher values rearing it's ugly head. I think this one comes under the title "Feel free to inform, teach or disagree but do it respectfully"

Many years in the teaching game taught me that you might be trying to teach a valuable lesson, but folks don't listen so well when you are puttin' 'em down at the same time.