Planning to buy S2000

saintslil23 · 10-08-2008, 06:04 AM

Hi. I am new here and have some questions about S2000.
I am planning to buy S2000. Some people told me that its loud inside the car. is this true?
I currently have a 05 Lexus IS300. I am planning to trade it in.
You know how they changed everything after 04 S2000. I herd that the rpm goes up to 9k with the old ones like 01-03. and the new ones go up to about 7.5k? Is this true?

I cant trade it in yet because i dont know if i should get the new S2000 or the older versions. Thanks

JDMzimbo · 10-08-2008, 08:14 AM

First off, the s2000 is a really nice car, and if you ended up getting one you will love. I have a 2000 s2k, and im not going to lie, its a little loud inside, but i think the ap2 s2000 are a little quieter. The ap1 s2000 redlines a 9000rpm, and the ap2 redlines at 8500rpm and has a little more tourque which is nice for daily driving. Both are great cars and you will find people who swear the ap1 is better, and people who swear the ap2 is better. I luv em both

dezignpro04 · 10-08-2008, 08:23 AM

THEY ARE VERY LOUD IF YOU HAVE AN INVIDIA EXHAUST!!! (turns engine off) Otherwise they are pretty quiet...

DJJSR · 10-08-2008, 08:43 AM

Drive one. It'll tell you right away if it's the right car for you. (and drive a used one so you can take it over 6000 rpm)

weigle54 · 10-08-2008, 09:31 AM

I just bought one about a week ago after searching for z3s, mr2s, and any other convertable 2 seater that was good on gas. S2000 is hands down the best bang for the buck w/ good gas milage as well. If you used to the Lexus, S2000 will seem loud, and you will hear noises that you didnt hear in your lexus--thats the nature of the beast, its a production race car you can drive daily, but dont forget that--drive one!!

saintslil23 · 10-08-2008, 01:24 PM

Haha. Thanks everyone.. Ill test drive one soon. should i go for ap1 or ap2?

Vezna31 · 10-08-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintslil23

Haha. Thanks everyone.. Ill test drive one soon. should i go for ap1 or ap2?

Drive both and pick which one you like the best. I am a diehard for AP1's. Would never think of getting an AP2, even if I had to buy another.

saintslil23 · 10-08-2008, 04:52 PM

AP1 - old model but RPM goes higer.
AP2 - new model but RPM doesnt go high as AP1.

I would like my car to look nice and have nice performance. Which would cost more. buy AP1 and change the parts to make it look like its new model. OR buy AP2 and tune it up so that RPM goes higher.

H20 · 10-09-2008, 03:45 AM

I bought an 07 new. It keeps up no problem with the earlier models and is better at some things I am told. A bit cushier but hardly cushy. It's a bloody great car. I wanted zero miles and a warranty so my choices were limited. New or new. Claims of no torque are crap and I'm sick of hearing it. I does great for a 4 cylinder engine and turns into an animal at 6 grand. If I had to change anything I would firm the rear suspension just the slightest bit. It's a touch mushy during spirited driving with two people and seems oddly out of place on this great car.
Any year S2000 is great if you can find one that has not been thrashed. Shouldnt be difficult though.

saintslil23 · 10-09-2008, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H20

I bought an 07 new. It keeps up no problem with the earlier models and is better at some things I am told. A bit cushier but hardly cushy. It's a bloody great car. I wanted zero miles and a warranty so my choices were limited. New or new. Claims of no torque are crap and I'm sick of hearing it. I does great for a 4 cylinder engine and turns into an animal at 6 grand. If I had to change anything I would firm the rear suspension just the slightest bit. It's a touch mushy during spirited driving with two people and seems oddly out of place on this great car.
Any year S2000 is great if you can find one that has not been thrashed. Shouldnt be difficult though.

Okay. Thanks a lot

Vezna31 · 10-09-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H20

If I had to change anything I would firm the rear suspension just the slightest bit. It's a touch mushy during spirited driving with two people and seems oddly out of place on this great car.

This is the whole basis of my argument for the AP1, plus the extra revs.

lonestarbuzz · 10-09-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by H20

I wanted zero miles and a warranty so my choices were limited. New or new.

you could have gone new.

LBC S2K · 10-09-2008, 10:37 AM

Here's a quick breakdown:

2000-2003 are AP1's. 9k redline, 240 hp. 16" stock wheels. 00-01 had plastic rear windows, from 02 on it's been glass.

2004-current are AP2's. 8200 redline, 237 hp, 10+ tq over AP1. 17" wheels (04-05 v1, 06-07 v2, 08-09 v3). Redesigned front/rear bumpers and head/taillights. From 06 on they are Drive by Wire, no longer a throttle cable and have come with VSA - a form of traction control. Some people like having it, others don't - but it can be turned off. My opinion - think of it like a condom: better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it. There are other differences but in general those are the more major ones. AP2's are known for being a bit more 'cushy', not as 'raw' as AP1's - but I can promise you whether you go AP1 or AP2 you will love the car, it's a true Driver's Car.

saintslil23 · 10-09-2008, 10:48 AM

wow.. Thanks for that info. Now i know which one to go for....

JDMzimbo · 10-09-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saintslil23

wow.. Thanks for that info. Now i know which one to go for....

Which one? lol

mlc · 10-09-2008, 10:51 AM

Where in the south are you? Let us know and I am sure someone close to you will chime in.

I have posted this a couple of times but I thought I would again. Especially if you are coming from a FWD car.

Just a bit of advice which ever car you decide on. Take your time and learn what the car likes and more importantly what it doesn't like i.e. mid-corner lifts of the gas, mid-corner shifts up or down in and out of v-tec etc. etc. This car is awesome to drive and that is a great thing and also something you need to respect. It is a hell of allot of fun and you will get back to the house with a huge a$$ grin on your face BUT don't get cocky and she will treat you very well.

Just take it easy at first. Do some reading on line about others experences and enjoy are car.

Good luck.

mlc

TheSoundMan21 · 10-09-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dezignpro04

THEY ARE VERY LOUD IF YOU HAVE AN INVIDIA EXHAUST!!! (turns engine off) Otherwise they are pretty quiet...

+1 for this lol

LBC S2K · 10-09-2008, 11:42 AM

mlc - you made some great points. This car demands a level of respect and it's very important to LEARN this car. If you do - it will be incredibly rewarding, if you drive it recklessly and without paying attention, you'll find out how quickly things can get ugly as many S2K owners (myself included) have found out.

Go on YouTube and search for a video under S2000 Life ... a section of the video is actually dedicated to "Have you spun your S2000?"

DJJSR · 10-09-2008, 04:58 PM

If you want all of the detailed differences for each model year go here......

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2173176

J'sS2K · 10-09-2008, 05:13 PM

My '05 has 240hp...LOL

saintslil23 · 10-09-2008, 07:46 PM

wow... This guy wants to sell me his 07 S2000. has stage 5 turbo with intake. hes asking 8k for it. i dont know what to do. i cant come up with 8k just like that. i still got 16k to pay off my car.

C Dub · 10-09-2008, 08:28 PM

also a new buyer and could not be happier. I would def. say ap2 though. Trust me its worth every dollar you spend

DJJSR · 10-10-2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by saintslil23

wow... This guy wants to sell me his 07 S2000. has stage 5 turbo with intake. hes asking 8k for it.

Nobody in their right mind would sell an '07 for 8k. Get the VIN and make sure it's not stolen.

saintslil23 · 10-10-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJSR

Nobody in their right mind would sell an '07 for 8k. Get the VIN and make sure it's not stolen.

Ill be sure to do that. Thank You

uneekvisions · 10-14-2008, 11:27 AM

If you want a quiet car the S2K might not be for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintslil23

Hi. I am new here and have some questions about S2000.
I am planning to buy S2000. Some people told me that its loud inside the car. is this true?
I currently have a 05 Lexus IS300. I am planning to trade it in.
You know how they changed everything after 04 S2000. I herd that the rpm goes up to 9k with the old ones like 01-03. and the new ones go up to about 7.5k? Is this true?

I cant trade it in yet because i dont know if i should get the new S2000 or the older versions. Thanks

halo_man7789 · 10-14-2008, 01:17 PM

First off, thanks to saintslil for starting this thread. I am currently looking into the S2000 and am hearing great things. This thread has helped me greatly. Thanks everyone

Neil · 10-14-2008, 07:45 PM

Get what you can afford saint. I bought mine new on 07, just turned 3,000 miles. It has been a very enjoyable tight nit car to drive. Yes the earlier models have more to rev about but on the new models the vsa works great and warrenty is always nice.
My wife dislikes the car, but I really love this little Honda.....its wicked !!

Neil

philiam · 10-14-2008, 07:52 PM

[quote=Neil;65845]Get what you can afford saint. I bought mine new on 07, just turned 3,000 miles. It has been a very enjoyable tight nit car to drive. Yes the earlier models have more to rev about but on the new models the vsa works great and warrenty is always nice.
My wife dislikes the car, but I really love this little Honda.....its wicked !!

Sorry to hear your car has nits. (sorry, couldn't resist a good straight line)

Neil · 10-14-2008, 07:59 PM

Blinkin Heck Phil, must of been that stray dog I picked up........lol

philiam · 10-14-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil

Blinkin Heck Phil, must of been that stray dog I picked up........lol

Yeah, some o them truck stop babes...

06gpws2k · 02-24-2009, 10:23 AM

i have a 06 for about 2 years and love it. i had the pleasure of beating the living hell out of a 01 s2k about 5 years back and i was hooked ever since. it doesnt really matter to me what year it is as long as the top is down the the tac is bouncing off the red. the way the s2000 was designed to be driven!

lonestarbuzz · 02-24-2009, 01:30 PM

congrats on the new car, gpw.

psst (the S doesn't have a needle)

06gpws2k · 02-24-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonestarbuzz

congrats on the new car, gpw.

psst (the S doesn't have a needle)

damn! your right... ill edit it to say tac!

lonestarbuzz · 02-24-2009, 03:09 PM

haha, no need. just playin around.

MutantCheese · 02-24-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBC S2K

Here's a quick breakdown:

2000-2003 are AP1's. 9k redline, 240 hp. 16" stock wheels. 00-01 had plastic rear windows, from 02 on it's been glass.

2004-current are AP2's. 8200 redline, 237 hp, 10+ tq over AP1. 17" wheels (04-05 v1, 06-07 v2, 08-09 v3). Redesigned front/rear bumpers and head/taillights. From 06 on they are Drive by Wire, no longer a throttle cable and have come with VSA - a form of traction control. Some people like having it, others don't - but it can be turned off. My opinion - think of it like a condom: better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it. There are other differences but in general those are the more major ones. AP2's are known for being a bit more 'cushy', not as 'raw' as AP1's - but I can promise you whether you go AP1 or AP2 you will love the car, it's a true Driver's Car.

The horsepower didn't change from AP1 to AP2, just the way it is calculated. The change took place in 2006 and many cars lost hp numbers due to requiring the A/C and other things be on during testing.

MutantCheese · 02-24-2009, 04:49 PM

The 2006 Civic Si is a good example. Honda intended it to be 200 hp, but because of these changes, by the time the car hit production the numbers fell to 197 hp.

saintslil23 · 04-11-2009, 01:05 AM

im gonna go for an 04-05...

tsturbo · 04-11-2009, 08:06 AM

Excellent choice! Just picked mine up on Wednesday and I still cannont wipe the smile off of my face

saintslil23 · 04-11-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsturbo

Excellent choice! Just picked mine up on Wednesday and I still cannont wipe the smile off of my face

aw dang.. lucky... have fun.. hope i get mine soon.

jman · 04-11-2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintslil23

Haha. Thanks everyone.. Ill test drive one soon. should i go for ap1 or ap2?

i'm going through the same debate here...

10-08-2008, 06:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	Planning to buy S2000 Hi. I am new here and have some questions about S2000. I am planning to buy S2000. Some people told me that its loud inside the car. is this true? I currently have a 05 Lexus IS300. I am planning to trade it in. You know how they changed everything after 04 S2000. I herd that the rpm goes up to 9k with the old ones like 01-03. and the new ones go up to about 7.5k? Is this true? I cant trade it in yet because i dont know if i should get the new S2000 or the older versions. Thanks

10-08-2008, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
JDMzimbo s2k4life Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 895	First off, the s2000 is a really nice car, and if you ended up getting one you will love. I have a 2000 s2k, and im not going to lie, its a little loud inside, but i think the ap2 s2000 are a little quieter. The ap1 s2000 redlines a 9000rpm, and the ap2 redlines at 8500rpm and has a little more tourque which is nice for daily driving. Both are great cars and you will find people who swear the ap1 is better, and people who swear the ap2 is better. I luv em both __________________

10-08-2008, 08:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
dezignpro04 Banned for Life Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,174	THEY ARE VERY LOUD IF YOU HAVE AN INVIDIA EXHAUST!!! (turns engine off) Otherwise they are pretty quiet... __________________ Mods: 18" Axis Reverbs w/Black Rays Lugs, Invidia N1 Exhaust, CAI, ACT Stage 2 Clutch, JDM Side Markers, Clear Corners, Slotted/Drilled Rotors, Spoon Pads, Spoon Steel Brake Lines, Spoon Reservoir Socks, Ricks Vodoo Knob, Custom Stitched Hand Made Convertible Top w/ Glass Window, JDM Aero Screen, Body Matching Dash & Shift Molding Panels, Polished Valve Cover and CAI, Engine Steel Braided Wire Kit & S2000 Caliper Vinyls..

10-08-2008, 08:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,851	Drive one. It'll tell you right away if it's the right car for you. (and drive a used one so you can take it over 6000 rpm) __________________ Don

10-08-2008, 09:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
weigle54 02 s2k Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Posts: 68	I just bought one about a week ago after searching for z3s, mr2s, and any other convertable 2 seater that was good on gas. S2000 is hands down the best bang for the buck w/ good gas milage as well. If you used to the Lexus, S2000 will seem loud, and you will hear noises that you didnt hear in your lexus--thats the nature of the beast, its a production race car you can drive daily, but dont forget that--drive one!! __________________ --Ryan

10-08-2008, 01:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	Haha. Thanks everyone.. Ill test drive one soon. should i go for ap1 or ap2?

10-08-2008, 04:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	AP1 - old model but RPM goes higer. AP2 - new model but RPM doesnt go high as AP1. I would like my car to look nice and have nice performance. Which would cost more. buy AP1 and change the parts to make it look like its new model. OR buy AP2 and tune it up so that RPM goes higher.

10-09-2008, 03:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
H20 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CT, USA Posts: 777	I bought an 07 new. It keeps up no problem with the earlier models and is better at some things I am told. A bit cushier but hardly cushy. It's a bloody great car. I wanted zero miles and a warranty so my choices were limited. New or new. Claims of no torque are crap and I'm sick of hearing it. I does great for a 4 cylinder engine and turns into an animal at 6 grand. If I had to change anything I would firm the rear suspension just the slightest bit. It's a touch mushy during spirited driving with two people and seems oddly out of place on this great car. Any year S2000 is great if you can find one that has not been thrashed. Shouldnt be difficult though.

10-09-2008, 10:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
LBC S2K Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 35	Here's a quick breakdown: 2000-2003 are AP1's. 9k redline, 240 hp. 16" stock wheels. 00-01 had plastic rear windows, from 02 on it's been glass. 2004-current are AP2's. 8200 redline, 237 hp, 10+ tq over AP1. 17" wheels (04-05 v1, 06-07 v2, 08-09 v3). Redesigned front/rear bumpers and head/taillights. From 06 on they are Drive by Wire, no longer a throttle cable and have come with VSA - a form of traction control. Some people like having it, others don't - but it can be turned off. My opinion - think of it like a condom: better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it. There are other differences but in general those are the more major ones. AP2's are known for being a bit more 'cushy', not as 'raw' as AP1's - but I can promise you whether you go AP1 or AP2 you will love the car, it's a true Driver's Car. __________________ 2007 Berlina S2K OEM Lip.Swift Springs w/Koni Yellows.Level Mirrors.Ap2v3 Wheels. K&N Filter/Gutted Box.CTR Knob. Oh, and SEAT LOCKS! Last edited by LBC S2K; 10-09-2008 at 11:37 AM.

10-09-2008, 10:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	wow.. Thanks for that info. Now i know which one to go for....

10-09-2008, 10:51 AM	#16 (permalink)
mlc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 288	Where in the south are you? Let us know and I am sure someone close to you will chime in. I have posted this a couple of times but I thought I would again. Especially if you are coming from a FWD car. Just a bit of advice which ever car you decide on. Take your time and learn what the car likes and more importantly what it doesn't like i.e. mid-corner lifts of the gas, mid-corner shifts up or down in and out of v-tec etc. etc. This car is awesome to drive and that is a great thing and also something you need to respect. It is a hell of allot of fun and you will get back to the house with a huge a$$ grin on your face BUT don't get cocky and she will treat you very well. Just take it easy at first. Do some reading on line about others experences and enjoy are car. Good luck. mlc

10-09-2008, 11:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
LBC S2K Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 35	mlc - you made some great points. This car demands a level of respect and it's very important to LEARN this car. If you do - it will be incredibly rewarding, if you drive it recklessly and without paying attention, you'll find out how quickly things can get ugly as many S2K owners (myself included) have found out. Go on YouTube and search for a video under S2000 Life ... a section of the video is actually dedicated to "Have you spun your S2000?" __________________ 2007 Berlina S2K OEM Lip.Swift Springs w/Koni Yellows.Level Mirrors.Ap2v3 Wheels. K&N Filter/Gutted Box.CTR Knob. Oh, and SEAT LOCKS!

10-09-2008, 04:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
DJJSR Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooterville Posts: 1,851	If you want all of the detailed differences for each model year go here...... http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2173176 __________________ Don

10-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
J'sS2K The Car Camera Mount Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,536	My '05 has 240hp...LOL __________________ So you're heading to the track and you want to record your sessions. PM me for an in-car camera mount. For everything else, you're on your own! www.getgopod.com

10-09-2008, 07:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	wow... This guy wants to sell me his 07 S2000. has stage 5 turbo with intake. hes asking 8k for it. i dont know what to do. i cant come up with 8k just like that. i still got 16k to pay off my car.

10-09-2008, 08:28 PM	#22 (permalink)
C Dub Sstone s2k Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: FL Posts: 47	also a new buyer and could not be happier. I would def. say ap2 though. Trust me its worth every dollar you spend

10-14-2008, 01:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
halo_man7789 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	First off, thanks to saintslil for starting this thread. I am currently looking into the S2000 and am hearing great things. This thread has helped me greatly. Thanks everyone

10-14-2008, 07:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,514	Get what you can afford saint. I bought mine new on 07, just turned 3,000 miles. It has been a very enjoyable tight nit car to drive. Yes the earlier models have more to rev about but on the new models the vsa works great and warrenty is always nice. My wife dislikes the car, but I really love this little Honda.....its wicked !! Neil

10-14-2008, 07:52 PM	#28 (permalink)
philiam Senior Member, Literally Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: woodland hills, CA Posts: 2,537	[quote=Neil;65845]Get what you can afford saint. I bought mine new on 07, just turned 3,000 miles. It has been a very enjoyable tight nit car to drive. Yes the earlier models have more to rev about but on the new models the vsa works great and warrenty is always nice. My wife dislikes the car, but I really love this little Honda.....its wicked !! Sorry to hear your car has nits. (sorry, couldn't resist a good straight line) __________________ .

10-14-2008, 07:59 PM	#29 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,514	Blinkin Heck Phil, must of been that stray dog I picked up........lol

02-24-2009, 10:23 AM	#31 (permalink)
06gpws2k Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 39	i have a 06 for about 2 years and love it. i had the pleasure of beating the living hell out of a 01 s2k about 5 years back and i was hooked ever since. it doesnt really matter to me what year it is as long as the top is down the the tac is bouncing off the red. the way the s2000 was designed to be driven! Last edited by 06gpws2k; 02-24-2009 at 02:18 PM.

02-24-2009, 04:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
MutantCheese The Cheeziest! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Orleans Posts: 505	The 2006 Civic Si is a good example. Honda intended it to be 200 hp, but because of these changes, by the time the car hit production the numbers fell to 197 hp. __________________ 2008 S2000 New Formula Red (K&N FIPK; Berk Ceramic coated SS headers; Berk SS HFC; Tanabe Concept G SS exhaust; Hondata toda Reflash; OEM front lip); Eibach Prokit lowering springs 2006 Civic Si NBP w/hfp kit (Too many mods to list here) 2008 CR-V EX-L w/Nav Enjoy your midlife crisis...you only get one! Visit: www.GNOunderground.com

04-11-2009, 01:05 AM	#37 (permalink)
saintslil23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	im gonna go for an 04-05...

04-11-2009, 08:06 AM	#38 (permalink)
tsturbo Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 68	Excellent choice! Just picked mine up on Wednesday and I still cannont wipe the smile off of my face __________________ '04 S2000 AP2 Silverstone Metallic/Black Leather Espelir Active Super Downs Viper 5901 '06 Acura TSX Premium White Pearl/Black Leather iVTEC 5 Spd Automatic '10 Ford Escape Limited FWD (On Order) - Company Vehicle Black/Black Leather 4 Cylinder/6 Spd Automatic Moon & Tune/Sync

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