My tires are rubbing

Jbeni96 · 10-24-2009, 02:30 AM

I recently purchased new tires for my 05 S2000. I used to have 225 40 R18 and decided to replace them with 235 40 R18. Now I hear rubbing in the back when I go over bumps or big dents on the road. This mostly happens in the morning when it is cold. Could this have something to do with bad shock absorbers or maybe I need stiffer springs. I know that the tires cannot be too wide. The car is not even lowered.

Thanks,

Jose

Java Junky · 10-24-2009, 03:57 AM

You're kiddin'.
Right?

jake2k · 10-24-2009, 04:52 AM

Haha they are going to have fun with this post, I can already see it.

Jim21680 · 10-24-2009, 08:38 AM

If it wasn't happening before, and is happening now - it has gotta be the tires....right?

Maybe the offset of the rims is not enough for the clearance. Good luck solving this, but I think you might be buying another set of tires soon. With 18" rims, shouldn't your aspect ratio be a little less than 40?

RL1924 · 10-24-2009, 09:02 AM

Not sure whats funny... its a legit question if you dont know about wheel sizes. I assume you have different rims not stock? There probably not the best choice for fitment of our car and thats why, because 225 in the rear... Your should run around 245's I run 255's in the rear 225 in the front. What wheels are on there and if you can figure out the specs too, if not try and get a picture of the wheels see what I can figure out by that.

gomarlins3 · 10-24-2009, 10:28 AM

Find out where they are rubbing. If it is the fender, roll the fender. If it is the springs, you will need new wheels with the correct off set or a different set of smaller tires.

As already stated above: The old tires didn't rub, the new ones do. It must be the tires.

D1sclaimer · 10-24-2009, 10:52 AM

I'm sorry, but you need to buy a camber kit and do this.

RL1924 · 10-24-2009, 11:18 AM

You can adjust camber on our cars without a kit

Java Junky · 10-24-2009, 11:31 AM

Ta whut end RL?
Iff'itt don't serve no purpose but'ta be offered up on'da altar'ta'da great'n overly-adored godz'a lookz, yuh godda be askin' yerself why yuh bought'a Stewie in'a first place.

RL1924 · 10-24-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Java Junky

Ta whut end RL?
Iff'itt don't serve no purpose but'ta be offered up on'da altar'ta'da great'n overly-adored godz'a lookz, yuh godda be askin' yerself why yuh bought'a Stewie in'a first place.

Not sure but I know it can be adjusted and can be put to a negative to an extent I mean you cant go CRAZY sideways but dont forget if your dropped the lower you are the more - camber you can get

Sheesh I have come a far way in these forums I remember asking..

What exhaust should I get just a year ago

Java Junky · 10-24-2009, 01:30 PM

'Don't remember me'r you ever doon'att RL.
But then . . . I'm suffer'n from CRAFT'z disease.
(Can't Remember'A F*#&in' Thing)

ol rich · 10-24-2009, 01:47 PM

Just get out the sawzall an' hack out the fender wells- it's only a car!

D1sclaimer · 10-24-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol rich

Just get out the sawzall an' hack out the fender wells- it's only a car!

That looks too sloppy. Gotta use a plasma cutter.

Neil · 10-24-2009, 07:58 PM

Jbeni it might be worth just selling the new tires and replace with the old size that gave you no problems, or pay for work to get the clearance you need.

dingleberries · 10-24-2009, 08:13 PM

$50.00 you can rent a fender roller and do it yourself

http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=639

Neil · 10-24-2009, 08:18 PM

Great idea, never clapped my eyes on a fender roller before ?

dingleberries · 10-24-2009, 08:28 PM

yea its pretty interesting there are a couple of tutorials around the internet seems like it would be pretty simple just make sure to use a heat gun so you don't crack the paint

Jbeni96 · 10-24-2009, 09:59 PM

I appreciate the constructive input, don't need the sarcasm from the experts. Frankly I am disappointed. I thought that this forum was to help the less savy people like me. Guess I was wrong.

I have seen S2000s with wider tires and lowered. I'm sure that there's something that I can do to fix it, i.e. stiffer springs. If this is a viable option, can someone tell me what type of springs could I use.

If you have something constructive please let me know, otherwise please keep the smart comments to yourself.

Jose

Java Junky · 10-24-2009, 10:09 PM

'Dunno if my thinkin' you were kiddin'z considered'a "smart" comment.
(Not havin' ever gotten referred to'z smart before duzzn't allow me much experience widd'itt)
Ledd'itt ride Jose.
Yuh post somethin' up, you've godda expect that not every response izz gonna be whu'cha wanna hear.
'Jus' comez wit'da territory pal.
Take whu'cha kin use'n ignore'da rest.
(But, every now'n ag'in, riotz kin be alodda fun too.)

RL1924 · 10-24-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbeni96

I appreciate the constructive input, don't need the sarcasm from the experts. Frankly I am disappointed. I thought that this forum was to help the less savy people like me. Guess I was wrong.

I have seen S2000s with wider tires and lowered. I'm sure that there's something that I can do to fix it, i.e. stiffer springs. If this is a viable option, can someone tell me what type of springs could I use.

If you have something constructive please let me know, otherwise please keep the smart comments to yourself.

Jose

Hey like I said start of with the wheels, If your 100% sticking with those wheels there is a way to make them work, You will probably have to do the fender rolling which is not a big deal. Maybe some more minor things but first thing to start off is to know what size wheels and offsets your running to determine exactly how far you will need to go to make them work.

Dmaye · 10-24-2009, 10:23 PM

little trick I learned on the fenders is a baseball bat (wooden of courseput the bat between the wheel and the fender and feed it it slowly as someone else in wording the clutch and gas. that will save you $50 bucks everyone has one laying around

RL1924 · 10-25-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmaye

little trick I learned on the fenders is a baseball bat (wooden of courseput the bat between the wheel and the fender and feed it it slowly as someone else in wording the clutch and gas. that will save you $50 bucks everyone has one laying around

That can work... fender roller is just SOOO much safer lol

Jbeni96 · 10-25-2009, 07:55 PM

OK guys I get it. I'm an ignorant dumb ass when it comes to cars. The issue that I have is that the tires are not too wide. If the stock rear tire is 245, why am I having problems with a 235? Additionally only the rear tires rub, and only when the weather is cold. When it's warm, the rubbing doesn't happen.

gomarlins3 · 10-25-2009, 08:38 PM

Because of the OEM wheel offsets. They are correct for that tire size. Your wheels are not the correct offset for that size of tire.

RL1924 · 10-25-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbeni96

OK guys I get it. I'm an ignorant dumb ass when it comes to cars. The issue that I have is that the tires are not too wide. If the stock rear tire is 245, why am I having problems with a 235? Additionally only the rear tires rub, and only when the weather is cold. When it's warm, the rubbing doesn't happen.

I really hope your not directing that towards me because clearly you are being ignorant. Tires have nothing to do with it. You could run 215 on some wheels and still rub. If the rim offset is no good the tire still sits further out. Running smaller tires can only help to a small extent.

Jim21680 · 10-25-2009, 09:12 PM

The take-home point here is that if what you had before worked, go back to that tire size. That's by far the cheapest option you have. Another good point mentioned above is that you might able to get away with running a smaller aspect ratio on the 235s....40 seems too high, especially if the offset is holding the tire too far out below the panels.

I really don't have an answer for the cold/hot difference....sorry.

RL1924 · 10-25-2009, 09:41 PM

I agree you could go back to the tires that you were running but 225's on the rear of an s2000!?!?

10-24-2009, 02:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jbeni96 Proud Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 41	My tires are rubbing I recently purchased new tires for my 05 S2000. I used to have 225 40 R18 and decided to replace them with 235 40 R18. Now I hear rubbing in the back when I go over bumps or big dents on the road. This mostly happens in the morning when it is cold. Could this have something to do with bad shock absorbers or maybe I need stiffer springs. I know that the tires cannot be too wide. The car is not even lowered. Thanks, Jose

10-24-2009, 03:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 6,628	You're kiddin'. Right? __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-24-2009, 04:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
jake2k Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: south texas Posts: 128	Haha they are going to have fun with this post, I can already see it. __________________ "Dream as if you'll live forever, Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean

10-24-2009, 08:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jim21680 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 365	If it wasn't happening before, and is happening now - it has gotta be the tires....right? Maybe the offset of the rims is not enough for the clearance. Good luck solving this, but I think you might be buying another set of tires soon. With 18" rims, shouldn't your aspect ratio be a little less than 40? __________________

10-24-2009, 10:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,290	Find out where they are rubbing. If it is the fender, roll the fender. If it is the springs, you will need new wheels with the correct off set or a different set of smaller tires. As already stated above: The old tires didn't rub, the new ones do. It must be the tires. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

10-24-2009, 09:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,037	Not sure whats funny... its a legit question if you dont know about wheel sizes. I assume you have different rims not stock? There probably not the best choice for fitment of our car and thats why, because 225 in the rear... Your should run around 245's I run 255's in the rear 225 in the front. What wheels are on there and if you can figure out the specs too, if not try and get a picture of the wheels see what I can figure out by that.

10-24-2009, 11:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,037	You can adjust camber on our cars without a kit

10-24-2009, 11:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 6,628	Ta whut end RL? Iff'itt don't serve no purpose but'ta be offered up on'da altar'ta'da great'n overly-adored godz'a lookz, yuh godda be askin' yerself why yuh bought'a Stewie in'a first place. __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-24-2009, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 6,628	'Don't remember me'r you ever doon'att RL. But then . . . I'm suffer'n from CRAFT'z disease. (Can't Remember'A F*#&in' Thing) __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-24-2009, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,514	Jbeni it might be worth just selling the new tires and replace with the old size that gave you no problems, or pay for work to get the clearance you need.

10-24-2009, 08:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
dingleberries Intermediate Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 167	$50.00 you can rent a fender roller and do it yourself http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=639 __________________ **rain, rain go away so i can drop the top today** Cheeeeeseee dident we put u in a dumpster once... I got out

10-24-2009, 08:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,514	Great idea, never clapped my eyes on a fender roller before ?

10-24-2009, 08:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
dingleberries Intermediate Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 167	yea its pretty interesting there are a couple of tutorials around the internet seems like it would be pretty simple just make sure to use a heat gun so you don't crack the paint __________________ **rain, rain go away so i can drop the top today** Cheeeeeseee dident we put u in a dumpster once... I got out

10-24-2009, 09:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jbeni96 Proud Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 41	I appreciate the constructive input, don't need the sarcasm from the experts. Frankly I am disappointed. I thought that this forum was to help the less savy people like me. Guess I was wrong. I have seen S2000s with wider tires and lowered. I'm sure that there's something that I can do to fix it, i.e. stiffer springs. If this is a viable option, can someone tell me what type of springs could I use. If you have something constructive please let me know, otherwise please keep the smart comments to yourself. Jose

10-24-2009, 10:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
Java Junky Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Joisey Posts: 6,628	'Dunno if my thinkin' you were kiddin'z considered'a "smart" comment. (Not havin' ever gotten referred to'z smart before duzzn't allow me much experience widd'itt) Ledd'itt ride Jose. Yuh post somethin' up, you've godda expect that not every response izz gonna be whu'cha wanna hear. 'Jus' comez wit'da territory pal. Take whu'cha kin use'n ignore'da rest. (But, every now'n ag'in, riotz kin be alodda fun too.) __________________ In life-long pursuit of that most mythic of beasts: the ever-elusive perfect corner. Well . . . that, r' at least a whole lodda clear spin-out room.

10-24-2009, 10:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Dmaye Noob Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 494	little trick I learned on the fenders is a baseball bat (wooden of courseput the bat between the wheel and the fender and feed it it slowly as someone else in wording the clutch and gas. that will save you $50 bucks everyone has one laying around __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H.L. Mencken

10-25-2009, 07:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jbeni96 Proud Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 41	OK guys I get it. I'm an ignorant dumb ass when it comes to cars. The issue that I have is that the tires are not too wide. If the stock rear tire is 245, why am I having problems with a 235? Additionally only the rear tires rub, and only when the weather is cold. When it's warm, the rubbing doesn't happen.

10-25-2009, 08:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 4,290	Because of the OEM wheel offsets. They are correct for that tire size. Your wheels are not the correct offset for that size of tire. __________________ Yablownowitz Racing brought to you by Anytime Fitness. Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

10-25-2009, 09:12 PM	#26 (permalink)
Jim21680 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 365	The take-home point here is that if what you had before worked, go back to that tire size. That's by far the cheapest option you have. Another good point mentioned above is that you might able to get away with running a smaller aspect ratio on the 235s....40 seems too high, especially if the offset is holding the tire too far out below the panels. I really don't have an answer for the cold/hot difference....sorry. __________________

10-25-2009, 09:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
RL1924 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,037	I agree you could go back to the tires that you were running but 225's on the rear of an s2000!?!?

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