Lowering springs

SilverS2K422 · 02-29-2008, 03:48 PM

I found some skunk2 lowering springs for around 200 bux that lower the car about 2 inches. Is that pretty low for the S? I want to keep or imoprove the great handling, would the springs make it better or worse?
Thanks

Dr. Jimbo · 02-29-2008, 04:56 PM

I hope you don't have speed bumps where you live.

sonic · 03-02-2008, 05:23 PM

Yeah that's as low as they make springs for our car. I'm getting the same one's.

SilverS2K422 · 03-02-2008, 06:13 PM

have you heard anything on handling, better or worse?

sonic · 03-02-2008, 08:27 PM

Could be a little bit more rough but should handle better.

SilverS2K422 · 03-02-2008, 08:42 PM

JOECHY · 03-02-2008, 09:00 PM

shocks and camber kit MANDATORY!!!

Tee-Dub · 03-02-2008, 10:18 PM

Too low IMHO. I'm running Espelir ASD w/Koni Yellows and the Espelirs dump the car pretty low, but not that low. As it is, w/negative camber, I scrape on about every driveway I encounter and the front tires rub on the occasional dip in the road. I imagine your handling will suffer too. The car probably handles the best on the stock suspension. Lowering it is pretty much cosmetic.

SilverS2K422 · 03-02-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOECHY

shocks and camber kit MANDATORY!!!

More info. whats a chamber kit?

Tee-Dub · 03-02-2008, 10:58 PM

The "S" has adjustable camber from the factory. However, it can only compensate for so much. My alignment guy was able to get me -1 deg front and -2 deg rear with the stock adjustments lowered on the Espelir springs.

SilverS2K422 · 03-02-2008, 11:21 PM

so after i get the car lowerd, take it to get aligned and ask them to change the camber settings

Tee-Dub · 03-02-2008, 11:38 PM

that is part of the alignment

SilverS2K422 · 03-02-2008, 11:59 PM

oh ok, thanks

AP1Day · 03-04-2008, 02:28 PM

ya alignments are always fun ( i do them from time to time at my pa's shop) i gotta say tho, when i had coilovers on my impreza, the adj. pillowball upper mounts were amazing changing camber was so easy, i could go all the way to -3, but only went -1.5 cause i didnt dump the car that much and i didnt want rediculous tire wear,and even when you compensate with toe in, you still get mad wear

JOECHY · 03-04-2008, 04:15 PM

I don't think a basic alignment is going to be enough accomodate for a 2 inch drop in the S. A camber kit is a kit designed to adjust the effects of an altered (lowered) suspension. This kit will correct how the tires will tentatively lean inside toward the vehicle from the top. Check out the below link, it briefly explains camber and the effects of lowering your car. Personally I think you can get away with a regular alignment with a drop 1 - 1.3inch drop; 1.3 - 1.5 mmmmmm.... maybe; but if you are going for 2inches or more, I would get the camber kit. Thats just me. Hope this helps... http://www.slickcar.com/info_what_is_camber.asp

gomarlins3 · 03-04-2008, 06:00 PM

That is REALLY low. I would also say that you will need new shocks to go with the springs. The OEM shocks aren't designed for duty at that low of a ride height.

sonic · 03-04-2008, 06:39 PM

What type of shocks are suggested?

s2k01 · 03-04-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic

What type of shocks are suggested?

the koni's....i have the skunks on my stock shocks they gonna go eventually. just remember to reverse the skunk springs so you get that angle foward look...i gotta get them flipped when i buy new struts. o and the handling is pretty stiff with the oem shocks...i like them.

sonic · 03-04-2008, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2k01

just remember to reverse the skunk springs so you get that angle foward look....

? What do you mean flip ?

SilverS2K422 · 03-04-2008, 08:47 PM

all these things people suggest that i need to do when i get these springs, would it be better to just get coilovers?

JOECHY · 03-07-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2k01

the koni's....i have the skunks on my stock shocks they gonna go eventually. just remember to reverse the skunk springs so you get that angle foward look...i gotta get them flipped when i buy new struts. o and the handling is pretty stiff with the oem shocks...i like them.

Struts? I thought the S didn't have struts - shocks only.

bobby2002s2k. · 03-08-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverS2K422

all these things people suggest that i need to do when i get these springs, would it be better to just get coilovers?

IMO its really not worth it to do full coil overs unless your trackin your car and lookin for .500 of a faster lap time. Some guys on this site got them but they are in to alot of auto cross and track days. I have Tein S spings 1' drop and koni sport shocks that i get another 1/2 to 3/4 inch drop. With that set up i needed no camber kit and got my camber set back to factory settings but it is maxed out. Any lower and i would have needed to get a camber kit. Just for the purpose of not eating tires up. with in 6 to 8 months. I used my stock shocks for my spings when i first got them but about 11 months after I got them i blew a front one. Now with a 2' drop on stock shocks it may not last that long? Dont really know may last just as long if not abit more.

SilverS2K422 · 03-08-2008, 09:30 PM

ok thanks for the advice!

s2k01 · 03-08-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic

? What do you mean flip ?

s2k01 · 03-08-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOECHY

Struts? I thought the S didn't have struts - shocks only.

sonic · 03-09-2008, 04:12 PM

"put the rear springs in front/front springs in rear"

So if you did'nt do this, basically your headlights would be pointing up? Why would they even make springs like that?

Tee-Dub · 03-13-2008, 08:42 PM

I doubt they will fit if not placed in the correct position. My Espelir coils did away with the "raked" look the car has stock and levelled it out.

gyshiga · 05-10-2008, 12:44 AM

I put 280 pounds of weight distriputed evenly to help settle the car faster and hoping that will lower it more than the advertise 1~ 1 1/2 inch drop.

its been a week, and 500 miles. still have the weights in there.
its not at low as i like.

thinking of getting skunk springs to get the maximum lowering.

What do you guys think? And does putting the weight in the car help at all? A mechanic told me it doesnt because the springs are made to settle at certain point and no more.

HOW ARE THE SKUNK SPRINGS GOING FOR YOU? seems good i hope. is the front wheel scraping the top when you do a full turn?
hows the ride on the skunk?

tien is good. just not low enough. maybe i should get low profile tires on my stock rims?

gyshiga · 05-10-2008, 05:46 PM

any suggestions?

skunk

or tien with low profile tires.......

02-29-2008, 03:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	Lowering springs I found some skunk2 lowering springs for around 200 bux that lower the car about 2 inches. Is that pretty low for the S? I want to keep or imoprove the great handling, would the springs make it better or worse? Thanks

03-02-2008, 05:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	Yeah that's as low as they make springs for our car. I'm getting the same one's. __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME

03-02-2008, 08:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	Could be a little bit more rough but should handle better. __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME

03-02-2008, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	cool

03-04-2008, 06:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
gomarlins3 "Enjoy the drive" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kuna Idaho Posts: 2,490	That is REALLY low. I would also say that you will need new shocks to go with the springs. The OEM shocks aren't designed for duty at that low of a ride height. __________________ Happiness is a nice road, great weather, and driving the S with Sue in the seat next to me. "Whatever you do, where ever you go, enjoy the drive." I know for a FACT that the last year of production of the S2000 is 2003!!!!! After that, it will be the S2200 under an assumed name.

02-29-2008, 04:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 960	I hope you don't have speed bumps where you live.

03-02-2008, 06:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	have you heard anything on handling, better or worse?

03-02-2008, 09:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
JOECHY Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 146	shocks and camber kit MANDATORY!!!

03-02-2008, 10:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tee-Dub Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 64	Too low IMHO. I'm running Espelir ASD w/Koni Yellows and the Espelirs dump the car pretty low, but not that low. As it is, w/negative camber, I scrape on about every driveway I encounter and the front tires rub on the occasional dip in the road. I imagine your handling will suffer too. The car probably handles the best on the stock suspension. Lowering it is pretty much cosmetic.

03-02-2008, 10:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tee-Dub Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 64	The "S" has adjustable camber from the factory. However, it can only compensate for so much. My alignment guy was able to get me -1 deg front and -2 deg rear with the stock adjustments lowered on the Espelir springs.

03-02-2008, 11:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	so after i get the car lowerd, take it to get aligned and ask them to change the camber settings

03-02-2008, 11:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tee-Dub Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 64	that is part of the alignment

03-02-2008, 11:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	oh ok, thanks

03-04-2008, 02:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
AP1Day Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 58	ya alignments are always fun ( i do them from time to time at my pa's shop) i gotta say tho, when i had coilovers on my impreza, the adj. pillowball upper mounts were amazing changing camber was so easy, i could go all the way to -3, but only went -1.5 cause i didnt dump the car that much and i didnt want rediculous tire wear,and even when you compensate with toe in, you still get mad wear

03-04-2008, 04:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
JOECHY Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 146	I don't think a basic alignment is going to be enough accomodate for a 2 inch drop in the S. A camber kit is a kit designed to adjust the effects of an altered (lowered) suspension. This kit will correct how the tires will tentatively lean inside toward the vehicle from the top. Check out the below link, it briefly explains camber and the effects of lowering your car. Personally I think you can get away with a regular alignment with a drop 1 - 1.3inch drop; 1.3 - 1.5 mmmmmm.... maybe; but if you are going for 2inches or more, I would get the camber kit. Thats just me. Hope this helps... http://www.slickcar.com/info_what_is_camber.asp

03-04-2008, 06:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	What type of shocks are suggested? __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME

03-04-2008, 08:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	all these things people suggest that i need to do when i get these springs, would it be better to just get coilovers?

03-08-2008, 09:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
SilverS2K422 SilverS2K Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 543	ok thanks for the advice!

03-09-2008, 04:12 PM	#26 (permalink)
sonic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern MD Posts: 1,030	"put the rear springs in front/front springs in rear" So if you did'nt do this, basically your headlights would be pointing up? Why would they even make springs like that? __________________ GO FAST OR GO HOME

03-13-2008, 08:42 PM	#27 (permalink)
Tee-Dub Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 64	I doubt they will fit if not placed in the correct position. My Espelir coils did away with the "raked" look the car has stock and levelled it out.

05-10-2008, 12:44 AM	#28 (permalink)
gyshiga Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23	i got Tien springs............. I put 280 pounds of weight distriputed evenly to help settle the car faster and hoping that will lower it more than the advertise 1~ 1 1/2 inch drop. its been a week, and 500 miles. still have the weights in there. its not at low as i like. thinking of getting skunk springs to get the maximum lowering. What do you guys think? And does putting the weight in the car help at all? A mechanic told me it doesnt because the springs are made to settle at certain point and no more. HOW ARE THE SKUNK SPRINGS GOING FOR YOU? seems good i hope. is the front wheel scraping the top when you do a full turn? hows the ride on the skunk? tien is good. just not low enough. maybe i should get low profile tires on my stock rims?

05-10-2008, 05:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
gyshiga Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23	any suggestions? skunk or tien with low profile tires.......