Tires

D1sclaimer · 07-16-2008, 04:54 PM

I'll be going to a track for the first time within a couple of weeks. Today, I noticed my rear driver side tire was low. Upon inspection, it has a nail in the sidewall. I checked my front tires as well and the front left tire also has a nail in the tread.

I figure that I might as well get some decent tires that'll treat me good at the track and as well as auto x-ing. I can get a deal($212 installed) on some Riken Raptors for the rear, but I've read a bunch of bad things about them.

I'd be willing to spend up to 300 installed for just the rear. Anyone have any experience with tires in that price range that they'd recommend?

gomarlins3 · 07-16-2008, 05:05 PM

Never heard of them, sorry.

desmo4 · 07-16-2008, 05:24 PM

You need to match the front and rear tires or the handling will deteriorate. Bridgstone Potensa RE-01R's are perfect and not as expensive as S02's in 16"

Jonathan

D1sclaimer · 07-16-2008, 06:03 PM

Thanks desmo4. I'll look into the RE-01R's. I've read goodthings so far about them. Im also looking at Fuzion tires. They're supposed to be pretty good tires for the price.

batguano · 07-16-2008, 06:12 PM

Fuzions cheap but I have heard bad things. Lousy in the wet.

I am running Falken 452s from Discount tire Direct. Great tires and reasonable.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do

chazdawg35 · 07-16-2008, 08:14 PM

Hey Dude are you running stock rims? Alot of my friends are running Raptors and they HATE them. I had BFG's G-force and they were Great, pricey but good. Right now I have Yokohama S-Drive's and just got done trackin' them at Willow. They held up GOOD but they had a long break in period. They in my opinion they are not as good as Bridgestone Potenza S-02 but you get a longer treadwear with the S-drives. Also where you live makes a BIG difference he in SO CAL hardly ever rains so I can't judge wet conditions. If your looking for super savings and decent quailty Kuhmo isn't bad good bang for your buck!

D1sclaimer · 07-16-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Hey Dude are you running stock rims? Alot of my friends are running Raptors and they HATE them. I had BFG's G-force and they were Great, pricey but good. Right now I have Yokohama S-Drive's and just got done trackin' them at Willow. They held up GOOD but they had a long break in period. They in my opinion they are not as good as Bridgestone Potenza S-02 but you get a longer treadwear with the S-drives. Also where you live makes a BIG difference he in SO CAL hardly ever rains so I can't judge wet conditions. If your looking for super savings and decent quailty Kuhmo isn't bad good bang for your buck!

Thanks. Yes, I do have the stock rims still. They look great for stock IMO. I'll look into the Kuhmo tires as well. It looks like they are pretty good for their price from what I've read.

lonestarbuzz · 07-17-2008, 08:12 AM

i'm a big fan of khumos as well - not too expensive and better than others in their price class, IMO. i, however, have not yet tracked my car.

Pablo · 07-17-2008, 08:32 AM

Bat's S2

Hey Lee, This is a REALLY nice line drawing of your Stewie that you use in your sig! Good job! I'm so tempted to steal it........the drawing that is......LOL

playingmilitary · 07-17-2008, 09:22 AM

i have the raptors and so far they have been alot better then the tires that were on it. i will say that grip to sideways has little to no warning not even a skreech or anything. they also have a good tread disign for the down pours that happen here in panama city fl.

dezignpro04 · 07-17-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestarbuzz

i'm a big fan of khumos as well - not too expensive and better than others in their price class, IMO. i, however, have not yet tracked my car.

+1. For an all around tire with GREAT tread go with the Kuhmo ASX (All Season Extreme). Or the Kuhmo SPT(Summer Performance Touring) which has better traction.

If you wanna track them, go with one of these:

Kumho Ecsta MX or Kumho VictoRacer V700.

There price are GREAT!!

My 02.

Seraph87 · 07-17-2008, 10:20 AM

Since we're talking about tires, and I know next to nothing about them, what's the difference between tire A and tire B? How do you tell the difference in performance?

dezignpro04 · 07-17-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraph87

Since we're talking about tires, and I know next to nothing about them, what's the difference between tire A and tire B? How do you tell the difference in performance?

It is like grades in school. There is also an "AA" rating. My tires are AA in traction and A in temp. The higher the rating the better the performance. But normally the higher the rating the lower UTQG is lower. A 40 - 200 rating is normally a track tire or REALLY good street tire. 240 - 300 is genarally a pretty good gripping tire, and good for a DD. If you never drive fast and want long performing tires then go for a 320+. But that normally means a B or C for traction and a C for temp.

Oh and UTQG is the rating for how many miles it will last. Just take the number and put a decimal after the first digit. Then multiply by 7200.

So a 220 tire is 2.2 x 7200. So a rough estimate would be around 14 - 15,000 miles. But remember we cant rotate our tires, so that means you will probally get about 2 - 3,000 miles less than that.

My 02.

Seraph87 · 07-17-2008, 11:07 AM

Lol, I think there was some confusion, mostly due to how little I know. When I said tire A and tire B, I just meant between any two tires and not a specific rating. I'm mainly trying to figure out what I should look for when buying a tire.

dezignpro04 · 07-17-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seraph87

Lol, I think there was some confusion, mostly due to how little I know. When I said tire A and tire B, I just meant between any two tires and not a specific rating. I'm mainly trying to figure out what I should look for when buying a tire.

Well, then just look for the ratings I explained about. That is what you should be considering when buying a tire.....

D1sclaimer · 07-17-2008, 11:58 AM

I've decided to get the Kuhmo ASX tires. 420 tread wear with an AA traction rating and every single thing I've read about them is good.

I was looking at the Fuzion ZR1s and the Nitto NT-450s, but both seem to have problems. My friend, manager at Walker Tire, said that hes had nothing but problems with the Fuzion ZR1s and he recomended the Kumo's or also the Nitto tires. I've read that the Nitto NT-450s are more of a straight line tire and doesn't do well with turns at a track.

Thanks all for your help.

lonestarbuzz · 07-17-2008, 12:31 PM

good luck... let us know what you think after driving on them for a while.

Dr. Jimbo · 07-17-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Alot of my friends are running Raptors and they HATE them.

I've got Raptors and they have been great on my daily driver S. Never been to the track but they've been great on the twisties. Good grip and no squealing. I'm pretty aggressive in the turns (maybe not as ballsy as some of you) and I have had no problems at all. Mine were about $80 each installed. I don't know what there is to hate about them, but then again, I had Cooper Zeons when I bought the car and those SUCKED.
Chaz, what about them do they hate?

Dr. Jimbo · 07-18-2008, 05:34 PM

Chaz, the thread kinda got buried. I was wondering what your friends hate about the Raptors.

batguano · 07-18-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Bat's S2

Hey Lee, This is a REALLY nice line drawing of your Stewie that you use in your sig! Good job! I'm so tempted to steal it........the drawing that is......LOL

You have a PM.

TheCarGuy2021 · 07-18-2008, 06:19 PM

I've had good luck with my Toyo T1R tires.

chazdawg35 · 07-18-2008, 10:19 PM

Hey Dudes what racing tires are the BEST?

chazdawg35 · 07-18-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Jimbo

Chaz, the thread kinda got buried. I was wondering what your friends hate about the Raptors.

They were saying ALOT of rear sliding thru the turns of the canyons roads. Plus the temperature was over 100 deg. that day when they were running them.

TheCarGuy2021 · 07-18-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chazdawg35

Hey Dudes what racing tires are the BEST?

By "racing tires" do you mean an actual track only tire, or a nice grippy street tire?

chazdawg35 · 07-18-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCarGuy2021

By "racing tires" do you mean an actual track only tire, or a nice grippy street tire?

What Track type tires do you run? R compound

batguano · 07-19-2008, 06:14 AM

IMO a good all around street and auto X tire is the Falken 615.

If racing is all you plan to do with a tire,my thought would be an R compound but I know little or nothing about those.

07-16-2008, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 474	Tires I'll be going to a track for the first time within a couple of weeks. Today, I noticed my rear driver side tire was low. Upon inspection, it has a nail in the sidewall. I checked my front tires as well and the front left tire also has a nail in the tread. I figure that I might as well get some decent tires that'll treat me good at the track and as well as auto x-ing. I can get a deal($212 installed) on some Riken Raptors for the rear, but I've read a bunch of bad things about them. I'd be willing to spend up to 300 installed for just the rear. Anyone have any experience with tires in that price range that they'd recommend? __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-16-2008, 05:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
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07-16-2008, 05:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
desmo4 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 543	You need to match the front and rear tires or the handling will deteriorate. Bridgstone Potensa RE-01R's are perfect and not as expensive as S02's in 16" Jonathan __________________ MY 2000 Mugen Air box, Headers, Exhaust, ECU, Pressure Plate,LSD, Radiator cap NZ Dampers, Thermo SW and Thermostat. Sampco intake pipe and radiator hoses, Swift sway bars, Stillen rotors w/ M-tech extreme pads. BBS JDM Forged Wheels.w/ Potensa Re=01R's Nextgear Intake manifold gasket, SPA gauges, Alpine IDA-X001,KCE-300Bt BT Adapter, Focal 165 K2P speakers, Phoenix Gold ZX475Ti, Recaro Profi SPG w/Sparco 6 pt

07-16-2008, 06:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 474	Thanks desmo4. I'll look into the RE-01R's. I've read goodthings so far about them. Im also looking at Fuzion tires. They're supposed to be pretty good tires for the price. __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-16-2008, 06:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 586	Fuzions cheap but I have heard bad things. Lousy in the wet. I am running Falken 452s from Discount tire Direct. Great tires and reasonable. http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY VID http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...DBR2008Pt1.flv Nikola Tesla,I salute you. Last edited by batguano; 07-16-2008 at 06:14 PM.

07-16-2008, 08:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 859	Hey Dude are you running stock rims? Alot of my friends are running Raptors and they HATE them. I had BFG's G-force and they were Great, pricey but good. Right now I have Yokohama S-Drive's and just got done trackin' them at Willow. They held up GOOD but they had a long break in period. They in my opinion they are not as good as Bridgestone Potenza S-02 but you get a longer treadwear with the S-drives. Also where you live makes a BIG difference he in SO CAL hardly ever rains so I can't judge wet conditions. If your looking for super savings and decent quailty Kuhmo isn't bad good bang for your buck!

07-17-2008, 08:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
lonestarbuzz awesome Join Date: May 2008 Location: arlington Posts: 636	i'm a big fan of khumos as well - not too expensive and better than others in their price class, IMO. i, however, have not yet tracked my car. __________________ i need a better signature.

07-17-2008, 08:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pablo Sentient Being Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LI, NY Posts: 601	Bat's S2 Hey Lee, This is a REALLY nice line drawing of your Stewie that you use in your sig! Good job! I'm so tempted to steal it........the drawing that is......LOL __________________ Regards, Pablo "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" Mario Andretti

07-17-2008, 09:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
playingmilitary poor coasty Join Date: May 2008 Location: panama city flordia tell the coast guard sends me some were new. Posts: 63	i have the raptors and so far they have been alot better then the tires that were on it. i will say that grip to sideways has little to no warning not even a skreech or anything. they also have a good tread disign for the down pours that happen here in panama city fl.

07-17-2008, 10:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Seraph87 Substitute Shinigami Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Posts: 59	Since we're talking about tires, and I know next to nothing about them, what's the difference between tire A and tire B? How do you tell the difference in performance?

07-17-2008, 11:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Seraph87 Substitute Shinigami Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Posts: 59	Lol, I think there was some confusion, mostly due to how little I know. When I said tire A and tire B, I just meant between any two tires and not a specific rating. I'm mainly trying to figure out what I should look for when buying a tire.

07-17-2008, 11:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
D1sclaimer Mustang Killer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 474	I've decided to get the Kuhmo ASX tires. 420 tread wear with an AA traction rating and every single thing I've read about them is good. I was looking at the Fuzion ZR1s and the Nitto NT-450s, but both seem to have problems. My friend, manager at Walker Tire, said that hes had nothing but problems with the Fuzion ZR1s and he recomended the Kumo's or also the Nitto tires. I've read that the Nitto NT-450s are more of a straight line tire and doesn't do well with turns at a track. Thanks all for your help. __________________ It’s alright. I aint losing. This fool’s running a Honda 2000. I’ll win, that way me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It’s all good.

07-17-2008, 12:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
lonestarbuzz awesome Join Date: May 2008 Location: arlington Posts: 636	good luck... let us know what you think after driving on them for a while. __________________ i need a better signature.

07-18-2008, 05:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dr. Jimbo Don't taze me bro! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 1,022	Chaz, the thread kinda got buried. I was wondering what your friends hate about the Raptors. __________________

07-18-2008, 06:19 PM	#21 (permalink)
TheCarGuy2021 Turbo guy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 277	I've had good luck with my Toyo T1R tires. __________________

07-18-2008, 10:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
chazdawg35 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: simi valley,california Posts: 859	Hey Dudes what racing tires are the BEST?

07-19-2008, 06:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
batguano Andiamo Veloce Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grittsburg NC Posts: 586	IMO a good all around street and auto X tire is the Falken 615. If racing is all you plan to do with a tire,my thought would be an R compound but I know little or nothing about those. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY VID http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...DBR2008Pt1.flv Nikola Tesla,I salute you.